Ryanair's new stand up 'seats' revealed!

xflyer

Well it had to happen: http://uk.travel.yahoo.com/p-promo-3359824
Note the colour scheme!


Actually I think it's publicity stunt by the aircraft interior company but you never know.

woysworld

so now we will be stanging on ryan air flights wit one pilot?!!... no thank u, ill pay extra and go wit air lingus....;)

will never happen, (hopefully)!!:eek:

deandean

All they're missing now, are meat hooks hanging from the ceiling.

seanaway

:DThey'll probably add a pee tube whether you want one or not and charge you €2 for it!

Oh, and €2 for the seat belt - or €1 if you want just the legs strapped in!!

Come to think of it, they'll have to charge for the 'pop up table' you'll need after you've paid through the nose for the 1 drink you can afford after paying for the excess baggage your winter coat qulaifies for.

Owen

You know something? If it meant I had to sit uncomfortably on that for less than an hour to the UK for even less than they charge now, I'd have no problems with it. Longer distance flights, I'd shell out for a seat, but for a hop of an hour/90 minutes, I'd have no problems with it.

seanaway

And THAT'S why Ryanair make muns!

Davidth88

Also being reported here

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2010-09-10-airlinestanding10_ST_N.htm?csp=

Think your seat in coach is cramped? Take a look at the SkyRider.
The new airplane seat, to be unveiled next week at the Aircraft Interiors Expo Americas conference in Long Beach, would give passengers an experience akin to riding horseback.
They'd sit at an angle with no more than 23 inches between their perch and the seat in front of them — a design that could appeal to low-cost airlines that have floated the idea of offering passengers standing-room tickets on short flights.
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The SkyRider isn't headed for an airplane cabin just yet. But its designer, Aviointeriors, an aircraft seat design firm based in Latina, Italy, says several airlines, including some in the U.S., have expressed interest.
"We feel extremely confident that this concept will ... have great appeal to airlines for economic purposes," says Dominique Menoud, director general of Aviointeriors Group.
The SkyRider could be its own class of seating, like business or coach, Menoud says. Passengers would likely pay lower fares. But airlines could boost their profits because the narrowly spaced seats would allow them to squeeze more fliers on board.
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"For flights anywhere from one to possibly even up to three hours ... this would be comfortable seating," he says. "The seat ... is like a saddle. Cowboys ride eight hours on their horses during the day and still feel comfortable in the saddle."
The novel design may draw interest — especially from two overseas carriers that have entertained the idea of providing no seats at all.
Ryanair, the Irish low-cost carrier that has set trends such as charging for in-flight meals, has said it would let passengers stand during flights if the Irish Aviation Authority would allow it.
And last year, Spring Airlines, a low-cost carrier in China, tried to get the OK from regulators to redesign its planes to accommodate some standing passengers.
But Gaetano Perugini, Aviointeriors' director of research and development who created the SkyRider, emphasizes that the firm isn't proposing that passengers be on their feet.
"Even though the (distance between seats) is extremely narrow, we are talking about seats, not about ... having passengers simply standing on the floor," he says. "You are sitting on a special seat, but it is a seat."
The seats will offer storage space as well, including a shelf for carry-on bags, and hooks to hang a jacket or purse.
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If a carrier commits to installing the new seats, Aviointeriors will apply to European aviation authorities and those in the United States for proper certification, Menoud says.
Les Dorr, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration, which regulates air travel in the U.S., says he's not familiar with the SkyRider's particular design.
However, he says, "While it's not impossible, it's difficult to conceive of a standing seat that would be able to meet all applicable FAA requirements and still be cost-effective."

iPlop

I would pay the extra money for comfort! No way will I fly this way!

seanaway

Number of passengers Vs Weight Vs Loading Vs take off ability springs to mind.

xflyer

I doubt very much it will ever takes off, to coin a phrase. It's main advantage to an airline is to increase capacity. However increased capacity might mean other changes not beneficial to the airline, like increased cabin crew and more exits. It would also reduce flexibility in that an aircraft fitted with these 'seats' wouldn't be usable immediately on longer routes. Fine for Dublin - London. But what about longer routes to southern Europe.

No, I suspect it's simply a speculative publicity gaining idea. Whatever about China, it wouldn't be allowed in Europe.

iPlop

The design of an aircraft is based on sitting passengers.Surely boeing or airbus would say thats not how the aircraft was designed or certified?

Martron

being 183cm in height i dont see how i could stand on a plane without them removing overhead bins.

whippet

it's all a load of nonsense really.

Ryanair don't make money from selling seats, their average fare is so low that in reality there won't be any further savings for passengers who would consider being treated like this.

Anyone who would agree to pay to stand/lean for the duration of a flight will no doubt already be on the hunt for the lowest fare possible prior to travelling. Therefore more than likely paying only about €5-20 for their ticket now. How much further could ryanair cut that fare? They are not making money from that fare, its all the other crap that they lob on to the cost of the entire booking.

So, for the pleasure of leaning for an hour and half to london (taking in waiting and taxi times) you will cut your fare by €5 and still pay about €50-60 in other charges.

The notion that Ryanair are all about saving the customer money is spin, its about cutting their own costs and giving the marketing spin that customers can avoid these additional charges, while it is impossible to avoid them.

I have not flown ryanair in about 3 years (usually make 10-15 return flights a year) and won't even consider them unless there isn't another option. After being treated like a herding animal in Berlin it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

adamski8

xflyer wrote: »

Well it had to happen: http://uk.travel.yahoo.com/p-promo-3359824
Note the colour scheme!


Actually I think it's publicity stunt by the aircraft interior company but you never know.

sorry OP http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055618696&highlight=standing

andy_g

And on that note thread locked.