Have Aliens visited this planet?

KeithAFC

Its one of those questions. Most of us think there must be something out there but have they visited this planet?

maccored

no idea but again, considering the size of the universe, probably not. if they have visited recently, surely the likes of seti would have picked something up

Riamfada

doubtful. I dont see why God would have needed to put beings on another planet and there is nothing in the bible about it.

SkinTex

Hmmm, SETI only processes a fraction of the whole sky, it's an ongoing search which will never be completed really.

UFO's and abductions stories aside, there is a chance there is something out there. Though improbably, it is possible. Just alot of factors it's depending on.

And as long as it's possible life exists out there, perhaps much older, then the possibility of them paying us a visit exists. Wheter it has happened is another question. It's a popular belief they have paid visits to us in the distant past.

maccored

Grimes wrote: »

doubtful. I dont see why God would have needed to put beings on another planet and there is nothing in the bible about it.

sure isnt god an alien? Technically anyway. He probably wanted all life forms to himself.

claiva

Grimes wrote: »

doubtful. I dont see why God would have needed to put beings on another planet and there is nothing in the bible about it.

Ehhh........if there is a "God", and he put the amoeba's into the water here on earth which eventually evolved into humans, surely he would have done the same thing on other planets to see what would happen there also ?

I think we all know the Bible is a story book, written to help those who follow the Catholic faith live by its fundamental teaching of do unto others as you would have done to you.

I'm not surprised it doesn't say "and by the way, Mars was populated billions of years ago, but they becasme greedy and sinful and blew themselves up" !!!!!!!!!

argosy2006

I dont believe it has turned into a debate about god lol

testicle

Grimes wrote: »

doubtful. I dont see why God would have needed to put beings on another planet and there is nothing in the bible about it.

God is an alien.

bryaner

Grimes wrote: »

doubtful. I dont see why God would have needed to put beings on another planet and there is nothing in the bible about it.

Lol

Riamfada

Gotcha

Anyway im no expert on things astrophysical however considering the "astronomical" factors that resulted in life on earth the chances of such factors appearing in an infinite universe are remote but cant be discounted. However the same vastness of the universe would mean the chances of any aliens being advanced enough to find us makes me doubt it, also they havnt made their presence known (in the past 2000 years anyway but I dont buy into all that aliens visted us 4000 years ago rubbish) so thats another reason to doubt the existence of aliens visiting earth negligble imo.

Also Jesus was an alien with super powers and his dad was a DJ. Jobe 3:13

Glassheart

KeithAFC wrote: »

Its one of those questions. Most of us think there must be something out there but have they visited this planet?

I would say more often than we could possibly imagine.

Ziycon

SkinTex wrote: »

Hmmm, SETI only processes a fraction of the whole sky, it's an ongoing search which will never be completed really.

UFO's and abductions stories aside, there is a chance there is something out there. Though improbably, it is possible. Just alot of factors it's depending on.

And as long as it's possible life exists out there, perhaps much older, then the possibility of them paying us a visit exists. Wheter it has happened is another question. It's a popular belief they have paid visits to us in the distant past.

SETI are a privately funded non-governmental organisation, they wouldn't know if there was a butterfly blocking one of their dishes unless 'the people in the know' wanted them to.

With regard to alien life visiting Earth, its a tough one and its a question that is really down to each individual themselves, if there willing to let go of everything they've been told about space and the universe since a young age then maybe they might be pleasantly surprised at what could be out there or maybe not!:D

Micky 32

I doubt it. Firstly because of the vast distances between stars. Speed of light can't be broken and even if you travel close to the speed of light you have the problem of time dilation. Not practical.

bryaner

Micky 32 wrote: »

I doubt it. Firstly because of the vast distances between stars. Speed of light can't be broken and even if you travel close to the speed of light you have the problem of time dilation. Not practical.

Lol the speed of light can't be broken as far as you know, but what about

many galaxies away who can tell ??

Ziycon

Micky 32 wrote: »

I doubt it. Firstly because of the vast distances between stars. Speed of light can't be broken and even if you travel close to the speed of light you have the problem of time dilation. Not practical.

Have a look at this video (interview with Ben Rich), could change your perspective on how you understand the way physics works!

a-k-47

cliff notes?...please...

It is going to be a very interesting next few decades on earth. Regards our natural resources and if we make any contact known to the human race, not just the governments.

Dave!

They're out there, but they haven't visited. Dunno whether it would be impossible or trivial for an advanced race to make it's way to Earth from a distant planet, I'll leave that for the astronomers to debate. But if they were here before (or they're regularly returning, as alien enthusiasts would have us believe), then there'd be better evidence.

Subtle Troll

Are aliens paranormal?

They aren't super natural, they would surely be in science, or politics, why in the ghost forum, unless they are dead aliens? Maybe the spaceship crashed.

What form of propulsion would they use? Would this be suitable for the engineering forum, or aircraft?

Unless the aliens bring their tarot cards with them, would the cards be made of paper or a synthetic more lightweight material suitable to space travel?

I think that the odds are low that a planet with a finite lifespan in a practically infinite universe would be visited by other alien life.

bryaner

Subtle Troll wrote: »

Are aliens paranormal?

They aren't super natural, they would surely be in science, or politics, why in the ghost forum, unless they are dead aliens? Maybe the spaceship crashed.

What form of propulsion would they use? Would this be suitable for the engineering forum, or aircraft?

Unless the aliens bring their tarot cards with them, would the cards be made of paper or a synthetic more lightweight material suitable to space travel?

I think that the odds are low that a planet with a finite lifespan in a practically infinite universe would be visited by other alien life.

But your thinking with the human mind and that's all you know..

Diabhal Beag

There's UFO's all over the place. The might visit but we probably won't ever know TBH.

bryaner

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

There's UFO's all over the place. The might visit but we probably won't ever know TBH.

100% Correct.

Ziycon

Subtle Troll wrote: »

Are aliens paranormal?

They aren't super natural, they would surely be in science, or politics, why in the ghost forum, unless they are dead aliens? Maybe the spaceship crashed.

What form of propulsion would they use? Would this be suitable for the engineering forum, or aircraft?

Unless the aliens bring their tarot cards with them, would the cards be made of paper or a synthetic more lightweight material suitable to space travel?

I think that the odds are low that a planet with a finite lifespan in a practically infinite universe would be visited by other alien life.

Paranormal = "Beyond the range of normal experience or scientific explanation"

Subtle Troll

Ziycon wrote: »

Paranormal = "Beyond the range of normal experience or scientific explanation"

Aliens are scientific, beyond normal experience could be sex to a virgin, but they wouldn't call sex paranormal!

Ziycon

Subtle Troll wrote: »

Aliens are scientific, beyond normal experience could be sex to a virgin, but they wouldn't call sex paranormal!

Heres the oxford dictionary definition, if you have a problem with it take it up with them.

denoting events or phenomena such as telekinesis or clairvoyance that are beyond the scope of normal scientific understanding:a mystic who can prove he has paranormal powers (as noun the paranormal) an investigator of the paranormal

Subtle Troll

Ziycon wrote: »

Heres the oxford dictionary definition, if you have a problem with it take it up with them.

Proves my point doesn't it? Aliens aren't paranormal by that very definition.

johnmcdnl

I believe aliens exist somewhere in the universe - because the universe is just so big that there has to be some form of intelligent life somewhere else..

However I doubt aliens have or ever will visit this planet due to the huge size of the universe... Unless our rules of physics aren't accurate and it is in fact possible to travel fast than the speed of light or use warp holes or something like we see in star trek or something we won't ever experience this intelligent life...

The universe is just too big and humans will be extinct in another several thousand years be it because of a natural disaster or a man made disaster so we will never get the chance to develop the technology required to travel such distances I don't think... I believe that the same problems would face any other planet with intelligent life - they would only survive for several thousand years before becoming extinct..

after all how many planets are in the universe - and what's the odds of picking out the couple planets that have intelligent life in the first place - never mind being able to get there...

Ziycon

Subtle Troll wrote: »

Proves my point doesn't it? Aliens aren't paranormal by that very definition.

Nope... We don't know what they are, whether there an idea in peoples heads or a physical phenomena hence why we can't explain them by our current understanding of science.

beyond the scope of normal scientific understanding

maninasia

johnmcdnl wrote: »

I believe aliens exist somewhere in the universe - because the universe is just so big that there has to be some form of intelligent life somewhere else..

However I doubt aliens have or ever will visit this planet due to the huge size of the universe... Unless our rules of physics aren't accurate and it is in fact possible to travel fast than the speed of light or use warp holes or something like we see in star trek or something we won't ever experience this intelligent life...

The universe is just too big and humans will be extinct in another several thousand years be it because of a natural disaster or a man made disaster so we will never get the chance to develop the technology required to travel such distances I don't think... I believe that the same problems would face any other planet with intelligent life - they would only survive for several thousand years before becoming extinct..

after all how many planets are in the universe - and what's the odds of picking out the couple planets that have intelligent life in the first place - never mind being able to get there...

Why is it too big? What is your rational for that, human life span? Current technology?

Ziycon

johnmcdnl wrote: »

I believe aliens exist somewhere in the universe - because the universe is just so big that there has to be some form of intelligent life somewhere else..

However I doubt aliens have or ever will visit this planet due to the huge size of the universe... Unless our rules of physics aren't accurate and it is in fact possible to travel fast than the speed of light or use warp holes or something like we see in star trek or something we won't ever experience this intelligent life...

The universe is just too big and humans will be extinct in another several thousand years be it because of a natural disaster or a man made disaster so we will never get the chance to develop the technology required to travel such distances I don't think... I believe that the same problems would face any other planet with intelligent life - they would only survive for several thousand years before becoming extinct..

after all how many planets are in the universe - and what's the odds of picking out the couple planets that have intelligent life in the first place - never mind being able to get there...

You have to take into account that everything we know about space is all channelled through government or government controlled organisations so essentially what we know about space is what 'we're allowed' know, the real picture could be a hell of a lot different to what we think.

Rebdot

I believe they are already here....:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAUG5QocN6k&feature=player_embedded

Riamfada

Rebdot wrote: »

I believe they are already here....:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAUG5QocN6k&feature=player_embedded

Id love a picnic.

py2006

When you think about it, if you believe in humans you should believe in aliens.

The very fact that we exist must surely indicate that similar life must exist on other planets!

Dave!

py2006 wrote: »

When you think about it, if you believe in humans you should believe in aliens.

The very fact that we exist must surely indicate that similar life must exist on other planets!

That's not the question though

Riamfada

py2006 wrote: »

When you think about it, if you believe in humans you should believe in aliens.

The very fact that we exist must surely indicate that similar life must exist on other planets!

facepalm

py2006

Dave! wrote: »

That's not the question though

Ooops, your right! I think they may have passed by alright!

When you consider our own planet for a second. At one stage, people didn't believe other countries and other people/cultures existed until they developed ships capable of sailing the seas far enough.

So we are kind of at the same stage with life outside of our planet. If Earth is still here in 5000 years time, people will be amazed to hear that in the year 2010 people actually thought that they were the only life forms and life couldn't possibly exist elsewhere.

Its the same thing in my opinion!

EDIT: I am still off the main point, aren't I? haha

Dave!

py2006 wrote: »

Ooops, your right! I think they may have passed by alright!

When you consider our own planet for a second. At one stage, people didn't believe other countries and other people/cultures existed until they developed ships capable of sailing the seas far enough.

So we are kind of at the same stage with life outside of our planet. If Earth is still here in 5000 years time, people will be amazed to hear that in the year 2010 people actually thought that they were the only life forms and life couldn't possibly exist elsewhere.

Its the same thing in my opinion!

EDIT: I am still off the main point, aren't I? haha

Yep You should be a politician!

Rebdot

Grimes wrote: »

Id love a picnic.

Korgm1

No doubt in my mind that alien life exists and have been in contact and part of our world/history for 1000's of years. Even to the non-believer/skeptic there is more information for, than against.
Dont get me wrong though. I've always been interested in anything with an air of mystery about it and over the years always been skeptical. I'd be the 1st to try and dismiss most sightings if even the smallest doubt was there. But with a little research it doesnt take very long before you come across cases which really do have you thinking and worth futher research.

Just my personal opinion mind you.

Subtle Troll

Korgm1 wrote: »

No doubt in my mind that alien life exists and have been in contact and part of our world/history for 1000's of years. Even to the non-believer/skeptic there is more information for, than against.
Dont get me wrong though. I've always been interested in anything with an air of mystery about it and over the years always been skeptical. I'd be the 1st to try and dismiss most sightings if even the smallest doubt was there. But with a little research it doesnt take very long before you come across cases which really do have you thinking and worth futher research.

Just my personal opinion mind you.

Wheres all the atom zappers and hover trousers then, or did they not bother their budgeen doin anything while they were here?

murrayp4

Aliens 'interfered with nuclear arms'

Tue, Sep 28, 2010

Former members of the US air force have claimed aliens had interfered with nuclear weapons - including during one famous incident in Britain.

UFO researcher Robert Hastings held a press conference in Washington yesterday to “address the vital issue of UFO incursions at US nuclear weapons sites over the past six decades”.

Mr Hastings said: “More than 100 former or retired US Air Force personnel - once trusted to operate or guard weapons of mass destruction - have come forward and revealed ongoing UFO surveillance of, and occasional interference with, our nuclear weapons.

“This information alters the historical perspective on the nuclear arms race and much, much more," he said.
“The fact that the Pentagon and CIA have successfully kept the truth from public view for so long is in itself mind-boggling.”

The Rendlesham Forest incident, often described as “Britain’s Roswell” was used as one example of evidence aliens had targeted nuclear weapons. The incident, in the early hours of December 27th, 1980, was never fully explained.

Several US air force personnel reported seeing a strange metallic object hovering in the forest near RAF Woodbridge in Suffolk. The object apparently left three depressions in the ground.

But papers released by the National Archives show the Ministry of Defence’s final position was that there was “no evidence of anything having intruded into British airspace”.

PA

© 2010 irishtimes.com

nice1franko

Interesting post over on reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/dkw5a/does_anybody_else_think_its_interesting_that_in/

Does anybody else think it’s interesting that, in December 2008, Dr. Ragbir Bhathal detected an unnatural “laserlike” signal coming from Gliese 581e, then today we learn about Gliese 581g an earth-like planet that almost certainly supports life? (self.science)

Here’s an interview with Dr. Bhathal

Here’s a news story about the new discovery

I’m not saying there’s necessarily a connection, but it seems like an awesome coincidence.

Subtle Troll

Ziycon wrote: »

Nope... We don't know what they are, whether there an idea in peoples heads or a physical phenomena hence why we can't explain them by our current understanding of science.

Sorry for the late reply, but you are wrong.

We DO know what they are, the definition is life not from earth, we have a good understanding of abiogenesis, evolution and so on and as such alien(not from earth) life is perfectly rational and scientific.

If you are talking about star trek or wishy washy energy beings, they aren't aliens, they are alien ghosts, the alien bit being totally rational and well understood, they arent from earth, the ghosts 'energy' and magic is the paranormal bit, and that doesn't apply to aliens as most likely exist.

I saw another article recently, lost the link, but it said with new methods of planet detection habitable planets by distance to their star could be as many as 1 in 10 star systems.

Life is just chemical reactions, its well understood, so aliens are very likely, but flying saucers and all that are probably less common, and very unlikely to have visited earth, which has f*ck all to offer aliens.

the purple tin

I heard a theory that UFOs dont travel across the universe to get here, they are here all along but in another dimension. They use the UFO to nip over and back between our world and theirs.