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Discrimination?

  • 08-09-2010 1:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭


    Friends of ours who are Catholic Nuns wearing the habit have been barred from trading at one of the local farmer's markets on religious grounds; they dress as Nuns (which they are..)

    and sell hand made rosaries among a wide range of craft work, fundraising for their work in the missions.

    We thought that this was illegal in Ireland?

    The chairperson said that it is in their rules' no one with religious or poltical affiliations is allowed; but the Sisters do not evangelise or proseltyse; they are simply, like every other stall holder, there to earn.

    The chairperson, who was quite overtly abusive, said that as the market is on private property thet can do as they like; but they rent the car park and of course it is open to all


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Frinds of oursw hoa re Catholic Nuns wearing the habit have been barred from trading at one of the local farmer's markets on religious grounds; they dress as Nuns (which they are..)

    and sell hand made rosaries among a wide range of craft work, fundraising for their work in the missions.

    We thought that this was illegal in Ireland?

    The chairperson said that it is in their rules' no one with religious or poltical affiliations is allowed; but the Sisters do not evangelise or proseltyse; they are simply, like every other stall holder, there to earn.

    The chairperson, who was quite overtly abusive, said that as the market is on private property thet can do as they like; but they rent the car park and of course it is open to all

    Tell them to picket it. Some frail old nuns and priests protesting against discrimination should turn away most of the custom. Sounds like pure discrimination on the grounds of religion and its disgraceful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭The_Morrigan


    Isn't there some strange law in Ireland about the advertisment of Religion... (the more informed will be able to correct me here I'm sure)...maybe this is why the Chairperson is covering their backside - if someone else takes offence to the situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Isn't there some strange law in Ireland about the advertisment of Religion... (the more informed will be able to correct me here I'm sure)...maybe this is why the Chairperson is covering their backside - if someone else takes offence to the situation.

    Well, no; in this case it was very clear that the chairperson hates Nuns. The Sisters have suffered some of this kind of thing before.

    There was real venom and anti-Catholic language at another open market

    And the person clearly wanted a a public fight. "Well, take us to court then!!"

    IF they had been actively proseletyzing, then that would have been fair; if they had set up a stall preaching etc.

    That is what their rules are meant to apply to. Using the market to further religion or a political cause.

    Wearing eg a cross or a habit is not advertising religion.

    But they are not; simply selling rather lovely hand made crafts.

    Thankfully they have been welcomed warmly by other local markets.So this will not affect their work. But very upsetting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭pirelli


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Frinds of oursw hoa re Catholic Nuns wearing the habit have been...

    You can edit that if you like. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,805 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Isn't there some strange law in Ireland about the advertisment of Religion... (the more informed will be able to correct me here I'm sure)...maybe this is why the Chairperson is covering their backside - if someone else takes offence to the situation.

    Only on TV/Radio...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭The_Morrigan


    Only on TV/Radio...

    See I knew someone would know ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    k_mac wrote: »
    Tell them to picket it. Some frail old nuns and priests protesting against discrimination should turn away most of the custom. Sounds like pure discrimination on the grounds of religion and its disgraceful.

    We pondered on this.. any overt action would simply polarise the woman; she was apparently seeking a fight which Sister did not give her.. mainly through shock and because it was at another market on private premises. She tried to goad Sister.

    So many are damaged and angry after the abuse scandals. This woman is clearly one such; which is no excuse for breaking the law.

    So we are simply quietly mentioning it to folk when it seems right to do so; the reaction has been as shocked and horrified as yours. Thankfully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 sig53


    Hello,
    Can anyone tell me of a person or persons who make rosary beads for charity or the missions? I have a box of plastic beads and crosses which I bought in Asia some years ago. I want to give them to someone or a club to make the string rosary beads for the missions or another charity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭234


    You might want to try a differnt forum. I don't think you will get many answers here in Legal Discussion.


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