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Removing/refitting toilet

  • 08-09-2010 10:31am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭


    I will be removing my toilet and hand basin to tile the bathroom floor. This should raise the floor height by approx 23mm. I have an offset pan connector and new flush pipe to allow for the extra floor height.

    I've never removed/replaced any bathroom fixtures before so I was wondering is there anything I should bear in mind while doing this (apart from turning off the water :D)? A friend suggested using a bit of washing up liquid to help the new pan connector fit onto the toilet pan and waste pipe. Is this advisable as I thought there was sodium in washing up liquid and would this not cause the rubber seal to perish over time?

    Thanks for the advice,
    K.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭kja1888


    You can use handwash for lube - something like "simple soap" has no additives I believe.

    Anytime I've done this I fit an isolator valve under the cistern, then if you need to take the toilet out again you don't need to drain down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭kkelly77


    kja1888 wrote: »
    You can use handwash for lube - something like "simple soap" has no additives I believe.

    Anytime I've done this I fit an isolator valve under the cistern, then if you need to take the toilet out again you don't need to drain down.

    I have some braided hoses with a shut off valve ready to go on the taps and cistern inlet ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Washing up liquid will be fine. Stop with the science. However its more likely you will need it where the pan connector goes into the sewer pipe as the angle of the pan connector will actually act as a lever effect and tighten the seal around the pan.

    As all the hoses you are using are flexi you should be fine. However just as a suggestive guide what i always done was got the thickness of the floor say 10mm and the thickness of the ply say 18mm and used no more than 25mm brass screws screwed every 2 inches. Thats right. every 2". Guarantee the floor is solid and ironocially it can usually be used again if the tiling was done correctly can be removed without leaving damage from water.

    The reason i am sure is obv on the spax. 18mm ply with 10mm floor and 25mm spax means the waste pipe underneath wont be touched.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭kkelly77


    As all the hoses you are using are flexi you should be fine. However just as a suggestive guide what i always done was got the thickness of the floor say 10mm and the thickness of the ply say 18mm and used no more than 25mm brass screws screwed every 2 inches. Thats right. every 2". Guarantee the floor is solid and ironocially it can usually be used again if the tiling was done correctly can be removed without leaving damage from water.

    The reason i am sure is obv on the spax. 18mm ply with 10mm floor and 25mm spax means the waste pipe underneath wont be touched.

    I already read that sound advice you gave Joey in another thread.

    The way I've worked it is: 12mm ply + 10 or 11mm tile height with adhesive = 23mm. I have a box of 20mm brass screws ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    kkelly77 wrote: »
    I already read that sound advice you gave Joey in another thread.

    The way I've worked it is: 12mm ply + 10 or 11mm tile height with adhesive = 23mm. I have a box of 20mm brass screws ;)

    don't forget the bed of adhesive will also be about 2 - 3 mm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    kkelly77 wrote: »
    I already read that sound advice you gave Joey in another thread.

    The way I've worked it is: 12mm ply + 10 or 11mm tile height with adhesive = 23mm. I have a box of 20mm brass screws ;)

    You dont count the tile height. The spax are in the wood so what you have is 12mm ply and 10mm floor = 22mm with the spax screws at 20mm your fine. Even with countersinking slightly...Only slightly though


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