Florida Pastor plans to burn Korans.

JONJO THE MISER

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11209738

The top US commander in Afghanistan has warned that troops' lives will be in danger if an American church sticks to its plan to burn copies of the Koran.

Gen David Petraeus said the action could cause problems "not just in Kabul, but everywhere in the world".

Pastor Terry Jones, of the Dove World Outreach Center, plans to put copies of the holy book in a bonfire to mark this week's anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

There have already been protests in Afghanistan and Indonesia.
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We must send a clear message to the radical element of Islam”

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The US embassy in Kabul issued a statement condemning the plans by the non-denominational church in Gainesville, Florida.

"It could endanger troops and it could endanger the overall effort," Gen Petraeus said in a statement to US media. "It is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems.

"Not just here, but everywhere in the world, we are engaged with the Islamic community," added Gen Petraeus, who heads a 150,000-strong Nato force against a Taliban-led insurgency.

Lt Gen William Caldwell, the commander of the Nato training mission in Afghanistan, told CNN: "It's their holy book, so when somebody says that they're going to destroy that and cause a desecration to something that's very sacred to them, it's already stirred up a lot of discussion and concern amongst the people."

In Kabul on Monday, about 500 protesters chanted "long live Islam" and "death to America" as they set fire to an effigy of Mr Jones.

The controversy comes at a time of already heated debate in the US over a proposal to build a mosque and Islamic cultural centre two streets from Ground Zero, site of the 9/11 attacks, in New York.

In a statement to the Wall Street Journal, Mr Jones acknowledged Gen Petraeus's concerns, but added: "We must send a clear message to the radical element of Islam. We will no longer be controlled and dominated by their fears and threats."

The planned protest by Mr Jones's previously little-known 50-member Florida church, whose website labels Islam "violent and oppressive", has prompted protests elsewhere, too.

Thousands of mostly Muslim demonstrators rallied around Indonesia last weekend.

Claims that US soldiers have desecrated the Koran in both Afghanistan and Iraq have caused bloodshed in the past.

There were deadly protests in Afghanistan in 2008, when it emerged that a US soldier deployed to Iraq riddled a copy of the holy book with bullets.

And further lives were lost in Afghan riots in 2005 when Newsweek magazine printed a story alleging that US interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had flushed a copy of the Koran down a toilet.

Poly

I didn't think it got that cold in Florida

kylith

That's despicable. I vote we hold a mass American Flag burning in protest.

Rowley Birkin QC

All religions should STFU.

consultech

"Flordia... Why is my name Flordia? That's the name of a state!"

Eh, no it's not.

Banned Account

TBH, as long as he doesn't draw any cartoons, can't see that it'll be an issue:pac:

Dravokivich

Would he have a problem if Muslims burn a book he likes to read?

WindSock

But it's just a book though.


OR IS IT? :eek:


Is he planning to go out and buy a load of them first?

Dravokivich

WindSock wrote: »

But it's just a book though.


OR IS IT? :eek:

It's a symbol... burning the book would be seen as attacking what it represents and what they believe in...

Edit:

WindSock wrote: »

Is he planning to go out and buy a load of them first?

Wonder if there's a Muslim version of Gideons :P

Mrmoe

I don't think anyone will come out of this one well. Book burning v's religious fanaticism, the eternal struggle.

ejmaztec

Why don't the religious zealots of all denominations just fuck off and torch each other, then we'll all be happy.

Sanjuro

The Dove World Outreach Centre. The hypocracy shown by people like Pastor Terry Jones is unbelievable. Unless he is actually one of the Pythons, in which case, this could be some sort of elaborate comedy sketch.

Oranage2

In all fairness the west should get rid of places like Pakistan and other Muslim countries. They're a treat to the west and they are highly populated making the un sustainable anyway.

EoghanConway

Read as "Flordia Pastor plans to burn Koreans".

Penny Lane

ejmaztec wrote: »

Why don't the religious zealots of all denominations just fuck off and torch each other, then we'll all be happy.

Bravo! Well said!

Sanjuro

Oranage2 wrote: »

In all fairness the west should get rid of places like Pakistan and other Muslim countries. They're a treat to the west and they are highly populated making the un sustainable anyway.

'In all fairness' and then you go on to advocate genocide. God, I love After Hours.

jigglywoo

I read the thread title wrong, I thought it said "Flordia Pastor plans to burn Koreans"

woysworld

typical american pastor.... i sometimes watch cornerstone church service live online on sundays @ 5pm and its mainly about " we love israel and bitching" islam.. its also real "hell fire and brimstone"..:eek:

gizmo

Sanjuro wrote: »

The Dove World Outreach Centre. The hypocracy shown by people like Pastor Terry Jones is unbelievable. Unless he is actually one of the Pythons, in which case, this could be some sort of elaborate comedy sketch.

Have a quick google about Jones and you'll see some other stuff which unbelievable. The guy is as shady as they come and this is purely a publicity stunt for him, I highly doubt religious zealotry has anything to do with it.

Nijmegen

Nutjob wants to burn Korans.

Media gives him attention.

Other nutjobs begin burning flags in protest.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of us get on with our lives.

Lone Stone

Aww i thought the title said Flordia Pastor plans to burn Koreans
bit of a let down now really.

SV

Sap.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

if this was some comedian planning to burn a load of bibles everybody in this thread would be jumping for joy at someone finally daring to stick it to the man

i just do not understand how so many people can bitch and moan and insult christianity day in, day out and get completely butthurt about the same treatment being dished out to islam.

SV

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

if this was some comedian planning to burn a load of bibles everybody in this thread would be jumping for joy at someone finally daring to stick it to the man

I dunno, I doubt that one really.

dlofnep

Oranage2 wrote: »

In all fairness the west should get rid of places like Pakistan and other Muslim countries. They're a treat to the west and they are highly populated making the un sustainable anyway.

I don't recall ever being attacked or endangered by a Muslim country. They are no threat to Ireland.

Logical Fallacy

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

if this was some comedian planning to burn a load of bibles everybody in this thread would be jumping for joy at someone finally daring to stick it to the man

i just do not understand how so many people can bitch and moan and insult christianity day in, day out and get completely butthurt about the same treatment being dished out to islam.

I'll happily make fun of any religion, or anyone for that matter, but a representive of one religion burning the sacred book of another just for the fun and the publicity of it is ****ing retarded.

Some comedian doing just about anything is pretty ****ing retarded, so at least you have drawn a decent parallel.

SV

dlofnep wrote: »

I don't recall ever being attacked or endangered by a Muslim country. They are no threat to Ireland.

Well the Islamic terror groups most certainly are.

Dave!

Koreans

Oranage2

Oranage2 wrote: »

In all fairness the west should get rid of places like Pakistan and other Muslim countries. They're a treat to the west and they are highly populated making the un sustainable anyway.

I like treats. Therefore Pakistan and other muslim countries should be left alone.

starbelgrade

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Nazis yet.

<inserts book burning reference>

Seaneh

Dravokivich wrote: »

Would he have a problem if Muslims burn a book he likes to read?

Muslims would never burn the Bible, they consider it a Holy book in their religion. Islam is a Judeo-Christian in it's roots.

They believe that the Tawrat (Torah) and the Injil (Gospels) are the word of God but that parts of the texts have been corrupted.

Lone Stone

They still had to buy them to burn them tho so either way Islamic book publisher's win they also make extra flammable American flagg's which are sold all over Iran Iraq & Afghanistan which are burned daily so karma wise i think this book burning will even out

ejmaztec

Lone Stone wrote: »

Aww i thought the title said Flordia Pastor plans to burn Koreans
bit of a let down now really.

I thought some Koreans died in a fire in a Florida restaurant, while they were eating pasta.:eek:

Oranage2

dlofnep wrote: »

I don't recall ever being attacked or endangered by a Muslim country. They are no threat to Ireland.

Not yet but when people relise that the world is over -populated and food and drinking water becomes scarce, well these highly populated countries like Pakistan, Banglidesh, Indonisia etc. will be a treat to whites survival. Also Pakistan also has nuclear weapons making it an extra treat to the world.

Finally I'd rather live under a Christian Nazi region then a paedophilic Islamic one.

Pherekydes

dlofnep wrote: »

I don't recall ever being attacked or endangered by a Muslim country. They are no threat to Ireland.

Poster said 'treat' (in all fairness). What I can't understand is the part about them being highly populated and thus unsustainable. The USA and China have much larger populations and seem to manage ok.

Regarding the OP, I'd say Michael Palin and John Cleese were involved, somehow.


"Nutty right wing religious zealot wants to burn books shocker" reads broadsheet headlines.

"Pakistan unsustainable" reads Daily Mail headline.

Donkey Oaty

Seaneh wrote: »

Muslims would never burn the Bible, they consider it a Holy book in their religion. Islam is a Judeo-Christian in it's roots.

That may well be true in principle, and I'm sure most muslims would be horrified by the thought, but in fact there are quite a few accounts of the bible being burnt by muslim extremists. And in countries like Saudi where the bible is banned, it's difficult to see why they'd have any respect for it.

Sanjuro

Oranage2 wrote: »

Not yet but when people relise that the world is over -populated and food and drinking water becomes scarce, well these highly populated countries like Pakistan, Banglidesh, Indonisia etc. will be a treat to whites survival. Also Pakistan also has nuclear weapons making it an extra treat to the world.

Finally I'd rather live under a Christian Nazi region then a paedophilic Islamic one.

As opposed to a pedophilic Irish Catholic regime?

Also, China, North Korea, India, Israel, Russia, the United Kingdom, France, the US, they all have nuclear weapons. Do you consider them as much of a threat as Pakistan? Or is your racism just focused on Pakistan?

dlofnep

Oranage2 wrote: »

Not yet but when people relise that the world is over -populated and food and drinking water becomes scarce, well these highly populated countries like Pakistan, Banglidesh, Indonisia etc. will be a treat to whites survival. Also Pakistan also has nuclear weapons making it an extra treat to the world.

Finally I'd rather live under a Christian Nazi region then a paedophilic Islamic one.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Pherekydes

Oranage2 wrote: »

Not yet but when people relise that the world is over -populated and food and drinking water becomes scarce, well these highly populated countries like Pakistan, Banglidesh, Indonisia etc. will be a treat to whites survival. Also Pakistan also has nuclear weapons making it an extra treat to the world.

Finally I'd rather live under a Christian Nazi region then a paedophilic Islamic one.

Essentially what you're saying is "Why can't we just kill third world peoples and take their food and water?"

A bigger threat to "whites'" survival is that they simply won't **** each other enough. (i.e. breed)

RasTa

Oranage2 wrote: »

Finally I'd rather live under a Christian Nazi region then a paedophilic Islamic one.

I'm sure you would....

thebigbiffo

Oranage2 wrote: »

Not yet but when people relise that the world is over -populated and food and drinking water becomes scarce, well these highly populated countries like Pakistan, Banglidesh, Indonisia etc. will be a treat to whites survival. Also Pakistan also has nuclear weapons making it an extra treat to the world.

Finally I'd rather live under a Christian Nazi region then a paedophilic Islamic one.

what about africa?

tis only the yella's ya dont be likin cledus?

piby

Rabble rabble rabble rabble . . . they took our jobs . . . . rabble rabble rabble rabble

"Flordia" pastor needs to get a better hobby.
What a load of rubbish.

Oranage2

It's certainly not a race issue, but the Islamic world surrounds Europe from Eastern Europe to North africa. They're the nearest enemy and all those years of the west raping their resources well they'll want pay back so better take them out now before they have war heads.

And as for the blacks (joke) , but i dont mind black africans in small doses.

Biggins

EoghanConway wrote: »

Read as "Flordia Pastor plans to burn Koreans".

You too?

irishconvert

SV wrote: »

Well the Islamic terror groups most certainly are.

You crack me up man, do you actually believe what you write???!

irishconvert

Oranage2 wrote: »

It's certainly not a race issue, but the Islamic world surrounds Europe from Eastern Europe to North africa. They're the nearest enemy and all those years of the west raping their resources well they'll want pay back so better take them out now before they have war heads.

And as for the blacks (joke) , but i dont mind black africans in small doses.

Where are you from?

biko

Oranage2 wrote: »

Not yet but when people relise that the world is over -populated and food and drinking water becomes scarce, well these highly populated countries like Pakistan, Banglidesh, Indonisia etc. will be a treat to whites survival.

That sounds like white pride to me.
Is it the religion, immigration or colour that bothers you?
Or all of them?

ejmaztec

Oranage2 wrote: »

Not yet but when people relise that the world is over -populated and food and drinking water becomes scarce, well these highly populated countries like Pakistan, Banglidesh, Indonisia etc. will be a treat to whites survival. Also Pakistan also has nuclear weapons making it an extra treat to the world.

Finally I'd rather live under a Christian Nazi region then a paedophilic Islamic one.

I would imagine that you see these as threats, and not treats.

Oranage2

Certainly not White pride as I am not white, so to answer your question I dont like Islam the religion and I fond most Muslims to be aggresive and dont intergrate well into the countries they immigrate too.

Perfect example is France- France conolised a lot of the north african countries so the north african muslims go to france and look at all these crazy rules they have in schools and in the public places so is not to offend Muslims.

Theres also the Danish cartoonist.

And have a look at britain, lucky for them the muslim countries they conalised are a little futher away but in a few years britain will be similar to France.

Now intergration isn't a bad thing but it is when people will phyically fight for their laws to be put in place then i think it is.

dvpower

Oranage2 wrote: »

Certainly not White pride as I am not white, so to answer your question I dont like Islam the religion and I fond most Muslims to be aggresive and dont intergrate well into the countries they immigrate too.

Have you thought that it might be you, not them?