France on strike

caseyann

French people got to hand it to them they have moxie:D

Transport workers began walking off the job last night, and many schools, post offices and government offices will be closed today. Demonstrations are planned in 137 cities.




http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-09-07/french-unions-stage-strike-as-pension-debate-starts.html
Are they over reacting,Its 65 here.Are you forced into retirement here or can you stay until you want?
If they raised it here to 67 how would you feel?

Should Irish take a leaf out of their book?
I think they should,the French dont like it they say no and are heard.

How the protests should be done.

I am not sure if i should have put this here,if i put in wrong section sorry and could one of the mods move please thanks

Fratton Fred

The French are always on strike. They take the whole of August off and then extend it a few days by having a few days on industrial action.

Lenny Lovett

caseyann wrote: »

French people got to hand it to them they have moxie:D

Transport workers began walking off the job last night, and many schools, post offices and government offices will be closed today. Demonstrations are planned in 137 cities.




http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-09-07/french-unions-stage-strike-as-pension-debate-starts.html
Are they over reacting,Its 65 here.Are you forced into retirement here or can you stay until you want?
If they raised it here to 67 how would you feel?

Should Irish take a leaf out of their book?
I think they should,the French dont like it they say no and are heard.

How the protests should be done.

I am not sure if i should have put this here,if i put in wrong section sorry and could one of the mods move please thanks

You will notice that it's mainly the Public Services that have gone on strike not private enterprise. Our public services spent much of last year and half of this year on a form of strike. So what's the difference? Well, at least the French do it properly in a short sharp shock. They have the balls to down tools altogether and get out and lose a day or two's pay if necessary. Our guys had their cake and ate it too. Had industrial action but still made sure they got paid. The difference between need and greed!

Eliot Rosewater

People are living longer, more healthy lives. It stands to elementary reason that, because of this, the retirement age should be increased.

Additionally, pensioners are a burden on the State's finances and the level of this burden can not be justified. In countries with a birth rate of less than 2, pensions like this are like Ponzi schemes: the first group pay money in; when they retire the second groups start paying them their premiums and so on. It's unsustainable in the long term.

Of course, trade unions are never ones to think of economic reality and sustainability.

bcirl03

[QUOTE=pensioners are a burden on the State's finances and the level of this burden can not be justified.[/QUOTE]

Eh and pensioners contributed to the states finances when they worked so why shouldn’t they be entitled to a little bit back.

sponsoredwalk

Eliot Rosewater wrote: »

Of course, trade unions are never ones to think of economic reality and sustainability.

Nor is it their job to...

Lenny Lovett

Eliot Rosewater wrote: »

Of course, trade unions are never ones to think of economic reality and sustainability.

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

Nor is it their job to...

Well they won't have to think of economic reality or sustainability if things keep going the way they are because ther won't be any. They won't have to worry about what to do with the millions they got from Fas either because the EU have put the tin hat on that too.

Mahatma coat

bcirl03 wrote: »

Eh and pensioners contributed to the states finances when they worked so why shouldn’t they be entitled to a little bit back.

I concur, I was havin this discusssion with an aussie chick earlier tonight, they plan on raisin the Retirement age from 65 to 67, What I discovered is that here in Australia you are still means tested after you reach retirement age, which I think is wrong, if its based on anything it should be 'stamps', but anyway I digress, If I comit 25 - 45 Years of my life to Keepin the head down, Goin with the Flow AND Payin My Taxes, I am ENTITLED to a pension, ****ty it might br, and on my own inititative to make my own nestegg, I Am entitled to my Pension, I contributed the most productive part of my life to the betterment of the nation I only want my Due

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southsiderosie

Lenny Lovett wrote: »

You will notice that it's mainly the Public Services that have gone on strike not private enterprise. Our public services spent much of last year and half of this year on a form of strike. So what's the difference? Well, at least the French do it properly in a short sharp shock. They have the balls to down tools altogether and get out and lose a day or two's pay if necessary. Our guys had their cake and ate it too. Had industrial action but still made sure they got paid. The difference between need and greed!

It's easier for the French to have disruptive general strikes because they actually have a real public transport system that millions of people depend on every day. So if those workers go on strike, it screws up much of the rest of the country, especially in and around Paris.

Eliot Rosewater wrote: »

Of course, trade unions are never ones to think of economic reality and sustainability.

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

Nor is it their job to...

It is the job of any competent trade union to think of economic realities and sustainability. You can't ask for a contract that will destroy the employer. Most private sector unions understand this; most public sector unions don't.

20Cent

donegalfella wrote: »

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Why wouldn't they be entitled to it?
They entered a contract. Contract is now being broken.

They weren't protesting about not being allowed retire at 58 in Greece either.