BB Nadia close to self destruction?

Richard Dower

According to close friend Marco Sabas (BB5), interview with Nadia in the Daily Star

Mod Edit: The link to the original story in the Daily Star, plus some other links regarding the same subject:

Daily Star: "Nadia: My Big Brother Hell"
Digital Spy: "BB Marco: Nadia is a suicide risk"
BreakingNews.ie: Nadia claims returning to the Big Brother house has “ruined” her life and left her suicidal.
The Sun: BIG Brother has defended its handling of transsexual housemate Nadia Almada - who said she was suicidal after being booed during her eviction on Friday.

EKRIUQ

In her own delusional mind for the last 6 years she believed she was the most popular BB contestant ever and now that's all gone.

Richard Dower

Indeed....i didn't like Nadia first time round, if "nice" people win then surely Shell should have won?, if "entertaining" people win then Dan should have won?, if "he's fit init" guys win then surely Stuart should have won?

I think the acceptance/transexual thing got her the win, but this time round people looked at Nadia, the person, and didn't like what they saw. I'm not sure how much the JJJ tweenies voting block contributed.

Das Kitty

In fairness to Nadia I don't think a lot of what was going on between her and Coolio was shown. Vanessa asked about it on Live Feed the others were saying that he kept asking her if she has a penis and told the other girls to put their hand up her skirt to see. He'd only refer to her by name or "them" or "they".

I have no idea why they didn't show it but it's a bit wrong really.

Now I don't like Nadia's personality, I think she's a bit of a wagon but she didn't deserve that. Going to the papers crying suicide is very extreme though. Such Drama!

kevin12345

Das Kitty wrote: »

In fairness to Nadia I don't think a lot of what was going on between her and Coolio was shown. Vanessa asked about it on Live Feed the others were saying that he kept asking her if she has a penis and told the other girls to put their hand up her skirt to see. He'd only refer to her by name or "them" or "they".

I have no idea why they didn't show it but it's a bit wrong really.

Now I don't like Nadia's personality, I think she's a bit of a wagon but she didn't deserve that. Going to the papers crying suicide is very extreme though. Such Drama!

Yes but the reason why Nadia was angry at Ulrika wasn't shown either!! Nadia apparently went crazy when she found out Ulrika was being paid £60,000 while Nadia is only being paid £12,000.

AnnyHallsal

kevin12345 wrote: »

Yes but the reason why Nadia was angry at Ulrika wasn't shown either!! Nadia apparently went crazy when she found out Ulrika was being paid £60,000 while Nadia is only being paid £12,000.

But Ulrika's profile is definitely five times higher than Nadia's, so I think her anger was unfounded. What's she done since she won that warrants any more than that? 12,000 for a few week's work..

I thought her bullying claims were laughable, considering that she's quite forceful herself. And I think her nastiness about Josie was the result of jealousy. Josie's, apparently, the most popular winner ever.

Darlughda

Despise Reality TV so I know I shouldnt be posting here, but the OP's thread title is offensive.

Please educate yourself regarding posting glibly regarding the issue of suicide, especially when it comes to some idiot that a vulnerable person may wish to emulate.

mariaf24

Darlughda wrote: »

Despise Reality TV so I know I shouldnt be posting here, but the OP's thread title is offensive.

Please educate yourself regarding posting glibly regarding the issue of suicide, especially when it comes to some idiot that a vulnerable person may wish to emulate.

The OP stated that this is according to an interview with Marco (a friend of Nadia's) with The Daily Star :rolleyes:

mariaf24

And as people here know i was not a fan of Nadia on the show but find it a bit harsh to refer to her as an 'idiot' at the moment. By all accounts she has been harrassed quite badly since leaving the show, hate mail through her letter box and her car has been vandalised. If anyone is vunerable at the moment it is her.
What gives you the right to come in her and undermine her while attacking the OP's post?

Jazzy

mariaf24 wrote: »

And as people here know i was not a fan of Nadia on the show but find it a bit harsh to refer to her as an 'idiot' at the moment. By all accounts she has been harrassed quite badly since leaving the show, hate mail through her letter box and her car has been vandalised. If anyone is vunerable at the moment it is her.
What gives you the right to come in her and undermine her while attacking the OP's post?

but she is an idiot. a MASSIVE idiot. "her" and her ilk are all just attention starved greedy little people that will say and do anything to get those headlines. shes about as close to suicide as i am to being a level 9 scientology god. the fact that they will mention suicide (which is a massive problem for young ppl both here and across the water) just to get some headlines shows exactly where their head is at and she should be ridiculed and undermined for it. fuk em and fuk her. shows over nadia, now your going to have to live the next 50 years of your life like a normal person... i know, im sobbing too

Mr E

Thread renamed to use a question mark instead of an exclamation mark. Jazzy's comment deleted.

Otherwise I agree with Maria's last post. I don't think the posters here are making light of the suicide story. Offensive comment's will just be deleted.

Jazzy

Mr E wrote: »

Otherwise I agree with Maria's last post. I don't think the posters here are making light of the suicide story. Offensive comment's will just be deleted.

its not a story though, its milking attention in a bid to garner headlines and get more money. "oh look at me, everyone hates me AND im a transvestite, sob sob gimme cash and ill tell you all about it".
that sort of behaviour deserves to be made fun of. her and her PR team know exactly what they are doing and exactly how to sell it. get another former housemate to announce it, have her not willing to speak, then in a few days be miraculously over it when a paper comes in with enough £££ to make it seem worthwhile.

it is so amazingly transparent

Mr E

You're so cynical, Jazzy.

You may be right about her motives, but we still have to keep an eye on this thread to stop it going off the rails.
Suicide is a very sensitive subject, and it should not be taken lightly.

Darlughda

mariaf24 wrote: »

The OP stated that this is according to an interview with Marco (a friend of Nadia's) with The Daily Star :rolleyes:

Nonetheless, the flippant use of the term 'close to suicide' associates this with an ok emotional state at the very least.

Jazzy

Mr E wrote: »

You're so cynical, Jazzy.

You may be right about her motives, but we still have to police this thread to stop it going off the rails.

in fairness, how often have you seen in trashy magazines "i was so close to suicide", "im going to kill myself", "death may be my only option" and sh1t like that. how many of these tabloid 'stars' have actually gone through with it? zero. there was that guy who presented kids tv but he wasnt in the mags and he wasnt that sort at all.

the celebs that make light of such a serious issue deserve to be punched right in their oversized faces. how the fuk dare they use suicide as an excuse for attention

Richard Dower

It's not normally like me not to enclose sources...so here we go:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1345189

I am writing this as a deeply concerned friend of Nadia’s. She is devastated following last night’s eviction and returned home to find her car egged and abusive letters through the door. I have never seen her in this state.

It is most concerning that the public was misled in regards to the dispute with Coolio. He made deeply offensive, homophobic comments continuously to her and the other housemates regarding gender and sexuality for many days on end which were not broadcast. It was made to be seen that Coolio left the house after Nadia erratically confronted him about hiding her shoes. This was not the case. Coolio was on his third and final warning from Big Brother about abusive and threatening behaviour. By this point Nadia had suffered a panic attack and was mentally beginning to breakdown. Not broadcast. It was made to seem that Coolio asked BB to leave the house. He was in fact *asked* to leave the Big Brother house by Sharon Powers. If Coolio had made similar comments regarding race, BB would have been obliged to show the dispute in FULL. The transphobic slurs made and broadcast on Big Mouth and BBLB merely reinforce BB’s position that homophobia and transphobia is fully permitted and encouraged by the BB platform. As a result, it has been made to look that Coolio asked to leave the house on the flippant actions of Nadia enraged over a pair of shoes - instead of after days and days of abuse. Her moods following Coolio’s departure were a knock-on effect from his time in the house. It was also not broadcast that Coolio intimidated and threatened Nadia with talks of a stabbing earlier in his youth.

She feels her life is now ruined and the goodwill built from her earlier stay in the house has been destroyed. I am writing this as a deeply concerned friend in the hope that Endemol will do something to address this, please. I can only hope Nadia will forgive me for writing this on a public forum but there is no doubt in my mind that she is now at genuine suicide risk. She has understandably lost all trust in the producers and does not want to speak with Stephen Flett (the esteemed psychologist who approved and put through contestants such as Shahbaz and Alexandra). The only further reproach will be legal action and complaints to OFCOM regarding flagrant unfair portrayal. I am asking Endemol to help Nadia Almada.

Richard Dower

Darlughda wrote: »

Nonetheless, the flippant use of the term 'close to suicide' associates this with an ok emotional state at the very least.

You admit not following reality tv, like BB....thus you've NO idea about Nadia, i do. I belive she is very fragile and *needs* the love of the public.

Princess Zelda

It always seems to happen to the ones who go back. Remember Jade? Loved first time around and then everyone hated her after her actions when she went back in.

Paparazzo

EKRIUQ wrote: »

In her own delusional mind for the last 6 years she believed she was the most popular BB contestant ever and now that's all gone.

She's on a "celebrity" come dine with me right now. She did mention that a few times already!

AnnyHallsal

Mm yeah..the word hubris springs to mind..

Darlughda

Richard Dower wrote: »

You admit not following reality tv, like BB....thus you've NO idea about Nadia, i do. I belive she is very fragile and *needs* the love of the public.

Okay. Enough is enough. This reads like a post of a psychopath.

Mr E

Darlughda wrote: »

Okay. Enough is enough. This reads like a post of a psychopath.

With all due respect, that's a ridiculous statement to make.

Richard began his statement with "I believe...".
It's his opinion. You don't have to agree with it.

I'm still watching this thread like a hawk.

Darlughda

Mr E wrote: »

With all due respect, that's a ridiculous statement to make.

Richard began his statement with "I believe...".
It's his opinion. You don't have to agree with it.

I'm still watching this thread like a hawk.

Well thankfully someone is. I cannot believe you have allowed the suicide thing title of this thread to go on. Therefore it is an admin I need to go to yes?

Mr E

Digital Spy: "BB Marco: Nadia is a suicide risk"
Daily Star: "Nadia: My Big Brother Hell"
BreakingNews.ie: Nadia claims returning to the Big Brother house has “ruined” her life and left her suicidal.
The Sun: BIG Brother has defended its handling of transsexual housemate Nadia Almada - who said she was suicidal after being booed during her eviction on Friday.

Whether you like it or not, this story is in the news. Nadia is allegedly suicidal (and that is the terminology being used).

I will bring this thread to the attention my co-moderators and category moderators. If they decide that the thread should be closed, then I will stand by their decision.

AnnyHallsal

Totally agree with Mr E. The title of the post was the headline on one of the Sunday tabloids. Many other sensitive issues are discussed on boards every day and I don't think anyone here's been particularly flippant, if at all.

mariaf24

Mr E wrote: »

Digital Spy: "BB Marco: Nadia is a suicide risk"
Daily Star: "Nadia: My Big Brother Hell"
BreakingNews.ie: Nadia claims returning to the Big Brother house has “ruined” her life and left her suicidal.
The Sun: BIG Brother has defended its handling of transsexual housemate Nadia Almada - who said she was suicidal after being booed during her eviction on Friday.

Whether you like it or not, this story is in the news. Nadia is allegedly suicidal (and that is the terminology being used).

I will bring this thread to the attention my co-moderators and category moderators. If they decide that the thread should be closed, then I will stand by their decision.

Yes, totally agree with Mr E, even Davina has tweeted on the subject.

The OP was referring to this story, he didn't invent it himself.

Darlughda i think you are over reacting even though i do agree that Nadia and her PR team may be using her poor treatment to their advantage.

Mr E

After discussing it with the other TV moderators and Arts category moderators, we've decided to change the thread title, and add the external links to the original post.

Darlughda

Thanks to whoever changed the title of the thread.

To anyone who thinks I have been over reacting on this issue, you really have no idea how influential these kind of things are to certain people who are about to self harm. I know what I am talking about.

Sharpshooter

DS:

Nadia has revealed that she is feeling "completely distraught" following her eviction on Friday and claimed that returning to the show has ruined her life.

The Big Brother 5 winner told the Daily Star Sunday that she has suffered abuse from the public since leaving the house and accused show bosses of misleading viewers in their handling of Coolio's exit.

Going back on Big Brother has ruined my life. I was the victim in that house but I was shown to be the villain.

"I'm just gutted. I hate my life so much right now and sometimes ending it all is the only solution. I'm at the lowest point I've ever been so I'm surrounding myself with friends and family and hoping God will be there for me.

"I was already in a vulnerable place and this has thrown me overboard. When this mess is over I just don't know what I'll do. I'm losing it. I'm emotional. This is the last thing I need in my life.

"My car has had eggs thrown all over it and I've had horrible notes sent to me, calling me a bitch. I've had to start avoiding people and stop answering calls. I don't know how much more I can take. I feel betrayed by Channel 4. There was no loyalty from them, no duty of care. They failed to protect me.

"Coolio targeted me on the first night and he wouldn't leave me alone. He kept asking about my gender status and he humiliated me over it. If it had been a racial slur they would have shown it but because it was against a transsexual they edited it out. They made it look like I wanted to leave over a pair of shoes but the truth is I was being bullied.

"I had a panic attack but that was left out as well. I'm going to speak to Ofcom and I want a public apology from Big Brother over this. I will be contacting lawyers and solicitors because I want to take things further. I was lured onto the show with them saying it would be a celebration. But after this I don't want to represent Big Brother any more.

"I don't feel safe to go out. I feel frightened. Big Brother discarded me. This has destroyed me. I was the nation's sweetheart and people embraced me. But now I'm the villain."

Defending comments she made to Josie about her relationship with John James, she added: "I stand by what I said. John James did treat her unfairly and he isn't genuine. She is such a lovely girl and she deserves someone better."

Just to give my opinion on some of Nadia's Statement.

"I want to end it all. I just feel my life isn't worth living any more," she said. "I can't carry on living the way I feel. I'm in the gutter and I'm completely distraught.

I'm sorry, but she is obviously not that distraught, as she is giving an interview about it.

Big Brother discarded me. This has destroyed me. I was the nation's sweetheart and people embraced me. But now I'm the villain."

I think this is what is upsetting Nadia the most, the fact that BB in her opinion let her down.

I'm unsure after that as BB has been known to edit things to go their way so I wouldn't blame her if she wants to follow that up.

But what some people are forgetting is the fact that Nadia could be overbearingly loud and in your face when she was upset with another HM.
So she did herself no favours when she reacted to Coolio the way she did.

I think that is what got her evicted.

As Victor said, if you are up for nomination and you argue, then you will be out.

It happened to him and to Jade.

Jade got a backlash too because of what happened when she returned to CBB.

I would have thought Nadia would have kept that in mind and not let HMs rile her.

Hopefully she will come to her senses and realise she is Nadia, not Nadia as portrayed by BB.

I wish her well.

Fistycuffs

If Nadia is suicidal after her experience in BB then I feel extremely sorry for her. Sadly I don't think it's Ultimate Big Brother that's brought her to the bad place she's in now.

It is not psychologically healthy or normal to build a self concept around how you placed in a reality show several years ago. If she is disintigrating because she she is not the beloved darling of an entire nation then something was already very wrong in her life before she went in the house this summer and it needed to be addressed. Hopefully this experience might be the catalyst to see her do that.

I also think that when Nadia won she did so for many reasons, least of which was her personality. I think people wanted to support her because she was courageous in putting herself out there as a transgender person and liked how she dealt with the bullying she got from bad boy Jason.
I remember her as having poor english and generally being quiet and nervous except for occasional angry outbursts at Jason who everyone hated anyway.

The fact that we all knew she was transgender but the HMs didn't also made her a focus of sympathy for the public and cast her outbursts in a more forgivable light. Her circumstances rather than herself made her the most worthy winner on that year.

She probably had a lonely life of feeling unaccepted before her win and it must've meant an enormous amount to her. I can fully sympathise with that but I don't think anyone can just let one point in their life define them, be it good or bad. HMs who do that will be the saddest legacy of BB.

I really hope that she's ok and will get the help she needs , but I don't think that it's Endemol that she needs help from.

Jazzy

shes as suicidal as a sultan in a harem. the story is bollocks, its spin and nonsense floated out there to get cash. if you think otherwise, its not about opinions, its about you being completely unaware of how the tabloid press and its "stars" work.

if you think about it more like professional wrestling you'd be getting somewhere

Pretty_Pistol

Apparently, she has tried to commit suicide.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother/news/a275530/bb-nadia-rushed-to-hospital-in-suicide-bid.html

If she was that mentally fragile she shouldn't have been allowed into the house. Don't they do psychological assessments before HMs go in?

Princess Zelda

If that is true, I feel sorry for her and hope she gets the help she needs. To be honest, I would think that she went into the house believing that she was loved and the negative reaction she got shocked her somewhat.

irishh_bob

Paparazzo wrote: »

She's on a "celebrity" come dine with me right now. She did mention that a few times already!

watched her on celebrity come dine , she was her usual arrogant , self important and rude self on that aswell

mariaf24

Ya i just read it on line also.

i cant believe she lives in a council flat? :eek: Imagine going from winning BB to living in a council flat? (No offence to anyone living in council flats, you know what i mean )

JP Liz V1

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother/news/a275530/bb-nadia-rushed-to-hospital-in-suicide-bid.html

Former Big Brother contestant Nadia Almada has reportedly been rushed to hospital after attempting to end her own life.
The BB5 winner was found slumped in her bathroom on Wednesday following an overdose of prescription drugs and painkillers, reports The Sun.
The 33-year-old - who admitted that she was feeling suicidal after her eviction from the Ultimate Big Brother house last week - apparently told friends: "I want to end it all."
A friend staying at Nadia's council flat is said to have discovered her body and called for an ambulance. She was reportedly kept under medical observation on Wednesday night, after which she was declared fit enough to return home.
A source said: "This is a cry for help. She is very unhappy."
Earlier this week, fellow BB5 contestant Marco Sabba spoke out on the Digital Spy forums to announce that Nadia was "devastated" by the hostile public reaction following her eviction.
Nadia recently attacked Channel 4 for the way in which she was presented during her UBB confrontations with Coolio, accusing the broadcaster of misleading the viewers.
Last night, a Big Brother spokesperson said: "We have been in constant touch with Nadia and, like all housemates, she has access to all of our aftercare facilities."

Richard Dower

Jazzy...you owe me an apology, mods/whomever....so i was right all along.

c montgomery

mariaf24 wrote: »

Ya i just read it on line also.

i cant believe she lives in a council flat? :eek: Imagine going from winning BB to living in a council flat? (No offence to anyone living in council flats, you know what i mean )

:D:D:D

Im delighted, i hope its a right hole of a place. She's a rude, arrogant and nasty person and im happy to see karma is alive and well.

Richard Dower

mariaf24 wrote: »

Ya i just read it on line also.

i cant believe she lives in a council flat? :eek: Imagine going from winning BB to living in a council flat? (No offence to anyone living in council flats, you know what i mean )

That's a big part of why she said she was bitter and had things rough post her BB win, she did not get the success and deals/money others have got before and since.

Ergo why she lives in a council flat, personally i think the "acceptance" she wanted and we thought she got was false, it lasted a short time, now everyone knowing who she was + transsexual i think Nadia has received alot of verbal and transphobic abuse since her win, Davina's "boyish good looks" confirms this....ergo, it was all fake and she was never really accepted.

Richard Dower

c montgomery wrote: »

:D:D:D

Im delighted, i hope its a right hole of a place. She's a rude, arrogant and nasty person and im happy to see karma is alive and well.

She was the same in BB5, i never liked her. :mad:

Richard Dower

Pretty_Pistol wrote: »

Apparently, she has tried to commit suicide.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother/news/a275530/bb-nadia-rushed-to-hospital-in-suicide-bid.html

If she was that mentally fragile she shouldn't have been allowed into the house. Don't they do psychological assessments before HMs go in?

The psyche eval has been proven to be as useful as a brillo pad to wipe your arse.

DingosAteMyBaby

Richard Dower wrote: »

Jazzy...you owe me an apology, mods/whomever....so i was right all along.

Hardly a thing to gloat about:rolleyes:

A woman reportedly tries to end her life and your reaction is "I told you so"

In regards to the situation, I am bit confused about why Coolio's appalling behaviour towards Nadia was swept underneath the carpet a bit.

However she was quite an unpleasant housemate anyway with all her unnecessary bitching and sniping and I was glad she was evicted. She definitely went in with a massive ego and the reception she received from the eviction audience obviously shattered it. She definitely needs help and the producers or whoever responsible should have ensured she received any help she needed.

Richard Dower

DingosAteMyBaby wrote: »

Hardly a thing to gloat about:rolleyes:

A woman reportedly tries to end her life and your reaction is "I told you so"

No...it's more the point i was lambasted for posting a topic about Nadia and her being at risk of suicide + i got mod edited to wthin an inch of my life, when NOTHING i posted was out of order, PC bull****e is all it was.

AnnyHallsal

Ah come now. I love Brian and Pete Burns and despise Nadia - not because she's had a sex change but because she's a self-centred, petty, domineering human being. Come Dine With Me was a reminder of all her bad points and made it all but impossible to sympathise with her. That sense of entitlement is equally despicable. She did no worse than the vast majority of BB winners before or since. What does she thinks she deserved more for exactly? Her winning personality? Give Me a Break! She won because of a novelty factor and because people found her tantrums entertaining. Then they got tired of it. She should work on developing some humility, kindness, empathy, gratitude, rather than what the public didn't give her.

Sharpshooter

Richard Dower wrote: »

No...it's more the point i was lambasted for posting a topic about Nadia and her being at risk of suicide + i got mod edited to wthin an inch of my life, when NOTHING i posted was out of order, PC bull****e is all it was.

Mr E PMd you about that Richard so don't bring it up on thread please.

Jazzy wrote: »

are you that naive? do you have any idea how the media works, or people from that matter?
i dunno, you dont seem that smart so ill forgive you

ill=not well.

I'll = I will.

Watch it with the snide comments!

Mr.Nice Guy

I was never a big fan of Nadia but this saddens me. I hope things work out OK for her.

Terry

I was going to ask some questions as to her living conditions, but though that I'd take the high road seeing as how she is quite obviously going through difficult times. Yeah, pat myself on the back and all that.

I'm sure that Mr.Nice Guy above will agree with me when I say that this type of thing happens quite often in the world of Pro Wrestling.

It's very easy to slam someone who is depressed and suicidal from behind a keyboard, but none of us actually know what these people are going through.

Today is world suicide prevention day.

Here are some links for people who may need help:
International Association for Suicide Prevention (IASP)
Samaritans
Pieta House

AnCatDubh

Terry wrote: »

Today is world suicide prevention day.

Here are some links for people who may need help:
International Association for Suicide Prevention (IASP)
Samaritans
Pieta House

In addition to the above, the following thread is worth 2 minutes of your time whether you need it or not;

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=67916966#post67916966

Take a read. Be happy

Mr E

AnCatDubh wrote: »

In addition to the above, the following thread is worth 2 minutes of your time whether you need it or not;

I'm not a frequent visitor to AH. It's a shame, because it means I miss gems like that post.

Jazzy

Terry wrote: »

I was going to ask some questions as to her living conditions, but though that I'd take the high road seeing as how she is quite obviously going through difficult times. Yeah, pat myself on the back and all that.

I'm sure that Mr.Nice Guy above will agree with me when I say that this type of thing happens quite often in the world of Pro Wrestling.

It's very easy to slam someone who is depressed and suicidal from behind a keyboard, but none of us actually know what these people are going through.

Today is world suicide prevention day.

Here are some links for people who may need help:
International Association for Suicide Prevention (IASP)
Samaritans
Pieta House

wanna talk about pro wrestling weirdos and the pressure cooker they live in? you are talking different worlds. same kind of subject matter but ultimately, not even the same ballpark. i know, it seems like a good example in your head but there is a critical difference - want and need. nadia wants, british bulldog needs... its a whole different affair to get into the fine lining of that arguement, but as i said in my post above - she cheapens the deal. yeah sure shes a human life, but she is one that is taking advantage of simple ppls emotions for profit, therefore, she can go fuk herself.
wanna talk about wrestlers fuking themselves over, make a thread and ill talk to ya all day about it and ill talk to ya all day about how nadia isnt close to that (despite me saying that you should look to pro wrestling for clues.. thats more to do with the way the media release and publicise these things)

Mr E

Jazzy, there is a sticky at the top of the forum called "BB Threads and Swearing" that says "Foul language and cursing is not allowed on this forum. Anyone swearing and using foul language will be infracted and banned for repeat offences. Using fonts to get around the swear filter will also result in action being taken by a mod."

Consider this a warning.