ATM extra charges possibly on the way.

Biggins

In the latest robbing the cash from your account/pocket by our government masters, Ahearn is apparently using the "Tiger" kidnappings to justify a further levy/tax/bank charge increase on people using ATM's machines.

IRISH BANKS may need to impose much larger ATM fees on their customers if the number of bank robberies involving hostage taking is to be reduced, Minister for Justice Dermot Ahern has said. He was speaking yesterday in the wake of the kidnapping of a bank manager’s wife, who was held hostage by an armed gang until her husband handed over €300,000 from the AIB branch where he works.

Mr Ahern said while the banks, bank workers and the gardaí had gone to considerable lengths to reduce such robberies, known as “tiger raids”, it was now time to examine if the amount of cash in circulation in Ireland should be reduced. Imposing higher fees for ATM transactions might discourage a dependence on cash and in turn reduce the amount of cash held by banks that could be targeted by organised crime gangs.

Continues here: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0903/1224278127605.html

Its amazing the number of ways they can think of to get your money, even down to the last cent!
Robbing sods! :mad:

Ahearn is supposed to be working for us - not the banks!
But we all know the truth in that!

Random

we should tax these fools for every stupid idea they have.

kev250

I heard about this alright, i'm sure one of the many banks will keep the atm free and we will all go running to them with our money

I'd say back to the day's of putting money under the bed:)

easyeason3

I have a Cadburys Roses tin left over from Christmas.
I think the tin could start to be used now.

allthedoyles

kev250 wrote: »

I heard about this alright, i'm sure one of the many banks will keep the atm free and we will all go running to them with our money

I'd say back to the day's of putting money under the bed:)

What has happened to the procedures in place with bank employees to counteract this type of robbery ?

Jev/N

"Let the Bears pay the bear tax, I pay the Homer tax"

tony1kenobi

I'm going to stop using ATMs' and start robbing security vans.....tax free.

Biggins

New tax, new levy, new charge... week in, month out...
I'm bloody sick of it.

OutlawPete

We'll all just have to mattress bank like Bertie so.

Schism

How much of a charge is Mr. Ahern proposing exactly and how often will it be charged?

Dord

I don't see how this will have any affect on the robberies. It's ridiculous.

maglite

What would be nicer is the promotions of electronic payment means, Debit Card, Credit Card, RFID payment stations. Promoting these would have the same effect and reduce the cost of dealing with money.

No more coins FTW

TPD

Surely this will cause people to take out more money at once, resulting in people carrying more cash, so easier pickings for muggers?

msg11

When a friend told me this eariler I nearly crashed the car. He placed a figure of €2.50 per transaction. So it ain't going to be cheap, and if it dose happen, you can safely safe it will rise in it's levy in the first six months. Which ever figure is giving.

It's an absolute no brained idea, which will more than likly be turned into law and be passed.

I cannot for ond second see the logic. Here are a few ideas I came up with, and I dunno what you folks make of them. But they sound alot better than taxing decent people for accessing THERE money!

1. Charge the customer, because it there fault , the banks are getting robbed. NO

2. Having less money in a bank is going to stop gangs robbing them . Like for god sake, I can't see any gang going, 'a sure we will only get 100,000€ out of that bank lets not rob it.

3. Why not impose, a bank float, banks can only hold €50-60-70,000 in there safe. If customers need large amounts of money, split it out with other branches of the banks, and alocate a time slot to get the money , 3 days from the request or a week, when ever a slot is available due to the float in the bank.

4. Make notice of the fact, 3-4 people all have to enter a code into the safe to open it. Up the security level big time, and advertise this fact.

5. ATM machines and cash transits, again, certain float on the van's and cash machines. Sensor the **** out of the ATM machines, any tilt or movment, all connected to the local gardai station triggers an alarm and dispatched to scene.

6. Vaults mointered from head office 24hours a day, people seen in the vaults with black bags is going to raise an eye brow or too.

7. 25-30 years in jail for such a crime.

8. GPS inside the box's, wirelessly link the box too the van. Once a button on the handle is pressed. Signals a panic alarm, van picks this up. Internet takes care of informing the Gardai. GPS handles real time location of said box.


People . I could be here all night, seriously. Charging for usage of ATM's on the back of Tiger Kidnappings is a clear con too rip you and me off.

P_1

I believe this idea was shot down in flames like a Lanc over the skies of Berlin at midday.

karlog

That's a ****** ******** idea

Biggins

pithater1 wrote: »

I believe this idea was shot down in flames like a Lanc over the skies of Berlin at midday.

One can only hope but as history shows - some of the Lanc's got through to their targets.

starbelgrade

Is this a zombie thread?

Biggins

starbelgrade wrote: »

Is this a zombie thread?

starbelgrade

Biggins wrote: »

It was in the news last week.

Biggins

starbelgrade wrote: »

It was in the news last week.

O' I see.
Me slow. Didn't see it.

P_1

Biggins wrote: »

One can only hope but as history shows - some of the Lanc's got through to their targets.

I believe Ahern was laughed at all round and eventually issued a reversal. Think I read it in today's Indo.

Biggins

pithater1 wrote: »

I believe Ahern was laughed at all round and eventually issued a reversal. Think I read it in today's Indo.

Fingers crossed.
(Sadly, give them time - they will come up with something else)

heyjude

You just couldn't make this sort of nonsense up.

A few years ago, when most people were paid weekly in cash and following a spate of robberies on cash vans delivering the wages, the government launched a campaign to encourage workers to accept having their wages paid directly into their bank account. Now they're considering charging a hefty tax on these same workers, when they go to withdraw their wages through an atm :rolleyes:

Then after ensuring that we have probably the highest tax in the world on atm, debit and credit cards(most countries have no tax on such cards), they are now talking about wanting to encourage people to use credit cards more to help reduce robberies !!!!

Personally if this went ahead, I could see many workers wanting to go back to being paid weekly in cash again.

It seems like everytime the government encourages you to do something, they typically follow up by finding a new way to tax you on the new process. They already charge you for having these cards and now they want a sizeable transaction tax too, ignoring the fact that this will encourage larger transactions and probably lead to even further robberies/muggings.

starbelgrade

Biggins wrote: »

O' I see.
Me slow. Didn't see it.

I blasphemed about it at the time.

I took the name of Dermot Ahern in vain.

But, as there is little likelyhood that he actually exists, I reckon I'll survive.

Yakult

What kind of fools are running this country..
Any excuse to keep us paying for the banks by adding such a charge claiming it will reduce robberies when really, it doesnt make alot of sense.
Pack of dopes the lot of them.