Whats the quickest way of emigrating??

Dave_24irl

That's it. I've had enough.

Long story short I am 24, fathers recently died and with him my only family link to this country. Now I need to find a way out quick on little or no money. Any suggestions? I would post in personal issues but to be honest the answers in AH are far more inventive, off-the-wall and thoughtful.

I cannot spend another day with nowhere to go. I cannot spend another day watching the news to see some smug, fat, overpaid politician tell me that 24 billion is necessary for a bank with which I, nor anyone I have ever met has had any dealings with in the past. I cannot put myself through the tortue of a second social welfare allowance interview (I was accussed of all sorts despite having no income). I cannot spend another day watching RTE and its cohort of overpaid government apologists. I cannot spend another day basically whithering my 20s away sitting inside wondering where it all went wrong (arts degree).

I'm currently doing nothing with my life. I don't even have an income. There are days when I go without food and at this point I have nothing to lose. Does anyone have any suggestions? Volunteering abroad? Anywhere from Cambodia to Afirca and anywhere inbetween? Any country not suffering in the downturn? Any little-known but survivable jobs in any country in Europe I have yet to hear about? Any reality TV shows I can apply for??? ANYTHING???

Sorry for the self-indulgent rant but watching the Late Late Show with Ryan 'Rcession? what recession? I write book reviews and hobknob with the elites' Tubridy tonight just flicked a switch of anger in my brain that won't reverse. I need out of here - FAST.

Cookie_Monster

Its like 24 quid or so to get the ferry to EngerlandWales. after that, who knows

recylingbin

Catapult.

amacachi

Should be a special with Ryanair to get to England before the end of the month for 6 quid.

jimmycrackcorm

Don't worry Op. The country won't miss you either.

Dave_24irl

recylingbin wrote: »

Catapult.

For me or Ryan Tubridy? Because if its the latter I will stay gladly.

watna

If you're under 31 you can get a WHV to Aus or NZ. It take a few days to get approved (I got my NZ one in 24 hours) - that was two years ago. I have permanent residency here now.

Get your visa, get a bit of money, get on the plane and go. If you need to that much.

Personally, I'd like to move back home but personal circumstaneces means I'm here fro another 2 years at least. Want to swop?!

jd007

Plane

starbelgrade

I was about to post "by rocket" in reply to the thread title of "the quickest way of emigrating", until I read your post.

Sounds like you could do with a break OP. I'm sure you'll get lots of good suggestions (amid a lot of daft ones of course), but in the meantime, you'll be surprised at how less frustrating your days are if you switch off the TV & radio.

The amount of doom & gloom peddling by our media is enough to drive anyone to despair.

Best of luck.

amacachi

Actually you could just head over the border, that takes what, an hour from leaving a house in Dublin?

natsuko

If it werent for my family, we'd probably be gone too. I have no advice for you on what to do but just wanted to wish you luck with whatever you decide to do.

KevinVonSpiel

I think the world is shit everywhere right now.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

+1 on starbelgrades post. I remember a few years back having a bad run on mates dying etc and said to my aul man how sh*t it all was. And he simply said to just focus on the positive things. A ridicolously obvious thing to say but pt it in to practice and there are many more things to be happy about than not.

Every day when you go to bed you tend to run over things in your head, this is natural. But you can choose to think about one little positive thing, whether this be a funny comment from a stranger, some joke you heard, something picturesque, whatever. But the fact is you can choose to remember the nice things quite easily if you try.

It's not a bad aul life wherever you may me, just gotta make it that way

Edit : and as to what you may do, it doesn't matter where you're working or what you're working at, all you need is a means to an end ie money for food and a place to rest your head. People are sound, look around and talk to people and you'll be happy

starbelgrade

KevinVonSpiel wrote: »

I think the world is shit everywhere right now.

Could you try & be a little bit more depressing? I'm not really feeling it.

Dave_24irl

Scarlett Elegant Sobriety wrote: »

+1 on starbelgrades post. I remember a few years back having a bad run on mates dying etc and said to my aul man how sh*t it all was. And he simply said to just focus on the positive things. A ridicolously obvious thing to say but pt it in to practice and there are many more things to be happy about than not.

Every day when you go to bed you tend to run over things in your head, this is natural. But you can choose to think about one little positive thing, whether this be a funny comment from a stranger, some joke you heard, something picturesque, whatever. But the fact is you can choose to remember the nice things quite easily if you try.

It's not a bad aul life wherever you may me, just gotta make it that way

Thanks for that. This actually made me feel a bit better. I need to stop comparing my life to others.

Royal Irish

If your in good shape my advice would be to join a foreign army, like the Royal Irish regiment or the US army. You will have a income and get to see the world.

Dave_24irl

Royal Irish wrote: »

If your in good shape my advice would be to join a foreign army, like the Royal Irish regiment or the US army. You will have a income and get to see the world.

VERY interested in this. I always assumed you had to be young (16-20) to join? I really believe the army would be good for me actually.

starbelgrade

Is there anything in the charter about online recruiting?

*goes off & checks*

Nope. Carry on.

Lapin

Scarlett Elegant Sobriety wrote: »

+1 on starbelgrades post. I remember a few years back having a bad run on mates dying etc and said to my aul man how sh*t it all was. And he simply said to just focus on the positive things. A ridicolously obvious thing to say but pt it in to practice and there are many more things to be happy about than not.

Every day when you go to bed you tend to run over things in your head, this is natural. But you can choose to think about one little positive thing, whether this be a funny comment from a stranger, some joke you heard, something picturesque, whatever. But the fact is you can choose to remember the nice things quite easily if you try.

It's not a bad aul life wherever you may me, just gotta make it that way

Edit : and as to what you may do, it doesn't matter where you're working or what you're working at, all you need is a means to an end ie money for food and a place to rest your head. People are sound, look around and talk to people and you'll be happy

+1

Dave_24irl,

This country is now hungover from a celtic tiger party we could never afford to begin with. Ireland was never a rich country and we were living the high life on a false economy in recent years. Don't set your sights at aspiring to reach the heights that we were encouraged to aim for during the so called boom.
Focus on the positive things that you possess. Take the time to identify what you can do. Ignore all the negativity in the media. Forget about the bankers and wan£ers. There is nothing we can do about them. Fcuk them and think about the most important person in your life - YOU.

I know its a cliche, but the most important thing you will ever have in your life is your health. After that, everything is relative.

I remember hearing a rock star being interviewed about starting out in his early days on the road. He and his band toured from one scabby club to another across the United States in a bus and ate sardines from a tin every night after their gigs, because they couldn't afford steak.
Ten years later he was playing in stadiums around the world flying from country to country in a private jet. And while he was been wined and dined in some of the finest restaurants, eating the best of steaks, he often thought to himself, "I'd give anything for a tin of sardines right now".

worded

starbelgrade wrote: »

but in the meantime, you'll be surprised at how less frustrating your days are if you switch off the TV & radio.

The amount of doom & gloom peddling by our media is enough to drive anyone to despair.

Best of luck.

I agree but its important to keep informed, but its just so difficult to take.
At one extreme ignorance is bliss at the other its OMG the news (paper and tv) is just so difficult to take all this BS in.

Im thinking of getting rid of the TV.

KevinVonSpiel

starbelgrade wrote: »

Could you try & be a little bit more depressing? I'm not really feeling it.

Well, we are all going to die... alone.

On the upside, OP can join the incredibly cool French Foreign Legion... or... keep in mind that we all live an hour or so flight away from Lahndahn Tahn.

London... so good they named it once.

gar32

You need to compare to others. Try comparing to the 1 billion a day in the world who don't have enough food. Try compare to the 3 billion who have never made or recived a phone call. In fact we are in the top 10 % for rich people in the world. people on the dole here make more in a week then 70% of the world do in a month. Use your time for you. Read books & make friends. Lifes what you make it ENJOY!!!!


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Dave_24irl wrote: »

Thanks for that. This actually made me feel a bit better. I need to stop comparing my life to others.

mickydoomsux

Dave_24irl wrote: »

....(arts degree).

I think i found the problem. Go back and do a degree that actually has the potential of a job at the end of it.

Also, running away to a bright, shiny new country won't solve your problems.

mfceiling

Dave_24irl wrote: »

That's it. I've had enough.

Long story short I am 24, fathers recently died and with him my only family link to this country. Now I need to find a way out quick on little or no money. Any suggestions? I would post in personal issues but to be honest the answers in AH are far more inventive, off-the-wall and thoughtful.

I cannot spend another day with nowhere to go. I cannot spend another day watching the news to see some smug, fat, overpaid politician tell me that 24 billion is necessary for a bank with which I, nor anyone I have ever met has had any dealings with in the past. I cannot put myself through the tortue of a second social welfare allowance interview (I was accussed of all sorts despite having no income). I cannot spend another day watching RTE and its cohort of overpaid government apologists. I cannot spend another day basically whithering my 20s away sitting inside wondering where it all went wrong (arts degree).

I'm currently doing nothing with my life. I don't even have an income. There are days when I go without food and at this point I have nothing to lose. Does anyone have any suggestions? Volunteering abroad? Anywhere from Cambodia to Afirca and anywhere inbetween? Any country not suffering in the downturn? Any little-known but survivable jobs in any country in Europe I have yet to hear about? Any reality TV shows I can apply for??? ANYTHING???

Sorry for the self-indulgent rant but watching the Late Late Show with Ryan 'Rcession? what recession? I write book reviews and hobknob with the elites' Tubridy tonight just flicked a switch of anger in my brain that won't reverse. I need out of here - FAST.

The Arts Degree is where it went wrong OP

To get out of here fast just head to dun laoghaire, change into your swimming togs, jump off the harbour wall and swim like fcuk.....that's the fastest way out of here!!

Seriously OP what about a bit of volunteering or if you really need out of here you could go on the boat as a foot passenger (cheap) then ask a truck driver on the other side for a lift.
Don't let the social welfare fob you off neither.....you can get an interim payment every week from the health board (think it is the same payment as the dole from the relieving officer??)...happened to a friend of mine....was living at home with parents and the dole wouldn't pay out...said he was entitled to nothing.
Best of luck with whatever path you take

Fittle

So you're on the dole? Check out some of the colleges who are offering free courses for the unemployed (nci, for example). Volunteer for SVP or any of the charities. Stop thinking negatively. Do you have family living anywhere else? Sisters/brothers/aunts/uncles? Could you get a flight/boat to them and stay with them until you get on your feet?
You say you have no income??? Where are you living? How are you paying your way - you have the internet/computer and tv at least so you must have some money to pay for bills etc?????

Mr Benevolent

If you think this country is bad feel free to move to Zimbabwe. Typical Irish whinge attitude.

dandruff_ie

+ 1 on all that has been said and +9 on SlasherMcGurk

look your only young and you have not lived try going to any other country and you will find fat cats by the bus load and if you think they will be wanting to give you a hand out ie. dole

saying all that I am feelin you dude so here is my idea for you

Spain a holiday resort get some work for a few weeks drink on your time off and with any luck find love that will sort you right out lol

sorry you feel this way

good luck Dude

lg123

go now while you still can. england followed by oz or nz are the easiest options. you can get on a bus today and be in london/edinburgh/manchester the following day without a serious outlay in cash.

mikemac

Yeah, it's good to keep informed, I like www.breakingnews.ie

But put away that TV, radio and don't read blogs, I might even add give After Hours a break!

I'm not saying let everything pass you by, but don't stress over things you can't control.
There are fat cat politicians in every country, Ireland certainly isn't alone and there are many countries in Europe where corruption and poverty is far worse.

Realy, if I were you I pick a country, any country and see if you can land a barman job. I'm thinking Spain or Portugal
It'll do wonders for your confidence, you can learn the local language and you may even come back to Ireland with the love of your life.
With a bit of cash and the language you might even head off to South America.

I don't watch the news, read the newspaper or listen to the radio - if I did, I'm pretty sure I'd be depressed beyond belief.

Have you tried hitchhiking? Or you could stow away on a boat!

the_dark_side

OP, here is my advice...

Avoid the army, particulary anything 'royal'... did you not hear Blair interviewed last night where he repeated twice, that it was time to go into Iran? Do youn think that the British armed forces have changed their policy of shoving the newbies to the front, (particularly if your Irish).

You have an arts degree... why not go and teach english in Asia. Did you look into TEFL? I know alot of people who have done this and loved it. Thats what I would look into....

All the best with your endeavours...

Swirls

the_dark_side wrote: »

You have an arts degree... why not go and teach english in Asia. Did you look into TEFL? I know alot of people who have done this and loved it. Thats what I would look into....

I agree with this. Use your arts degree. Depending on the country you go to you mightn't even need the TEFL cert. Some organisations will train you (you usually get a TEFL cert) and pay for your flights etc. So you wouldn't need much money to do this... just your arts degree:). Worth looking into - just be careful and find out as much background information about the organisations you apply to in advance, some can be very dodgy.

Good luck.

Liam Byrne

amacachi wrote: »

Actually you could just head over the border, that takes what, an hour from leaving a house in Dublin?

What gave you the impression that he's in Dublin ?

He could be 5 mins from the border, or about 10 hours if he's in Dingle or West Cork.

krudler

Confab wrote: »

If you think this country is bad feel free to move to Zimbabwe. Typical Irish whinge attitude.

Yes, everyone should be happy with what they've got no matter how crap it is, because theres some villagers in Africa who are worse off, typical Irish naysayer attitude. Stay in you home town OP, live a meaningless existence worrying about what other people think of you, get married to someone who you tolerate for the rest of your life and work until you're 65 before retiring on a piddling pension because our government pissed it all away, dont be thinking about seeing other countries, thats not the Irish way of doing things, be miserable and be happy about it, its what we're best at.

Wagon

Confab wrote: »

If you think this country is bad feel free to move to Zimbabwe. Typical Irish whinge attitude.

The chap's father has just died. Can you try and not be a cock?

Gummy Panda

OP have you considered the fast pace lifestyle of a rent boy. Meet strange and exotic men, travel the world and be paid large sums of money for as little an hour of your time.

foxinsox

Where ever you go, you have to take yourself with you!

From my reading of your post I don't think that now is the time for you to emigrate. I understand things aren't going great for you at the moment but I would say that you have to be happy with yourself and moving country doesn't mean that will change.

I would advise you to look into more options here first. Volunteering is a starting point and at least you wouldn't be stuck at home.

I wouldn't worry about Social Welfare interviews, if you have no money you just have to show them that. Most of those interviews are just a formality that they have to go through.

You mentioned in your post that some days you don't eat? I would be worried about that, I advise you to talk to someone, a professional or a friend that you can confide in.

This is only my personal opinion but it seems to me that leaving the country would not be a positive move for you right now.

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do

Please remember people do care and you'd probably be happily suprised if you did talk to someone about how you are feeling.

edit: I think the army/foreign legion would be the worst option you could take.

mikemac

foxinsox wrote: »

Where ever you go, you have to take yourself with you!

What a clever phrase when you think about it

I'm going to use this one in future

foxinsox

feelingstressed wrote: »

What a clever phrase when you think about it

I'm going to use this one in future

Your'e welcome to use it.. My mum has it worn out telling me that when I was younger and always running off to different parts of the world!

Nolanger

Dave_24irl wrote: »

Volunteering abroad?

You can do that for 5 years and still get credits here, then come back, and claim the dole on those credits, and will not have to do another lousy interview. You must register with Comhlámh and work for a Government or non-Government agency or for the Government of a developing country.

vicecreamsundae

^ that's awesome, i never hears about that.

OP, depending on your age you can get a visa to canada which id highly recommend thought it does take a few months to organise. since you have a degree you could also go teach in south korea...you need the cash for your flights but they reimburse you later, your apartment and lunches are free and you get paid a decent wage on top! and they sort you out pretty quickly i believe [google tiger english, an irish company]. thats my backup plan anyway , to get out of here quick sharp if everything goes to crap!

King Felix

I wouldn't just go swanning off somewhere without a plan and a definite prospect for work, OP. When you get your dole backdated it might give you a headstart.

The TEFL option looks good. The course is pretty short and then you can take your pick of jobs around the world.

Good luck with whatever you do.

Tchaikovsky

Best not to look at 99% of the threads on AH if you're sick of being depressed by the reactionary, scare-mongering Irish media

If you want the definition of ****hole, go to Cambodia, haha! All of their intellectual elite were killed under the Khmer Rouge so you're really scraping the bottom of the gene pool there now.
You'll look at Ireland in a whole different light.

Tchaikovsky

If you do go down the TEFL route, OP, I think it would be best to do the full 120-hour training course. It costs a bit but it's so handy in the long-run in terms of getting well-paid jobs, plus you get 6 hours real classroom teaching practice. The skills you learn with the course are great too, plus you'll meet some great people.

I did my course before Christmas, finished college in May, couldn't find work here (Tesco, Dunnes, McDonalds etc) and luckily got a residential teaching course in England for a month; I got around €1500 in the bank and had some great experiences. I'm going to do some voluntary English teaching here with an organisation called Failte Isteach and then I'm geading off to Chile in February. The world is my oyster after that!

Asia is the place to go if you want to make money- they reimburse your flights and you can come out with a couple of thousand euro after food and accomodation etc. Don't just look at South Korea, though; China and Thailand are also excellent destinations. Japan had it's English boom but it would be worth looking into too. There would be lots of places in Europe looking for teachers too- Spain, France, Poland, Ukraine, Czech Rep and Russia in particular.

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do anyway dude!

Dave_24irl

Cheers for the replies. Much appreciated!

I guess I am just being a bit self-indulgent. I did work experience for the government during college and to be honest it was a demoralising experience. Many TDs had a poor grasp of the national issues but spent each morning trawling through www.rip.ie to see what constituents had died that day in order to make the funeral and be seen. Most their time was spent in their constituency and when they were in Leinster House they were in the bar with visitors from home, not studying up what needs to be done to haul us out of our debt in a responsible and fair way. I don't blame the players though, I very much blame the game and I honestly believe we will be in a continous cycle of reacting wtf to economic crisis as long as we have a client system of TDs in this country and not an election for national legislators less beholden to visiting the local bar.

That was the beginning of the end for my confidence in our political system and all that has happened since has eroded my faith further that anyone in the higher brass of Irish society has a clue what to do or how to get us out of this mess. The biggest gripe I have is the thought that for the next two generations myself, my friends and family and our children will be paying tax mainly to eradicate a 24 billion (or 35 billion if some are to be believed) debt for a bank which purely financed the rich to inflate the bubble that burst despite countless warnings. It's like a terrible novel come to life.

Anyway, political rant over. I guess sitting at home alone can often make it easy to buy into the negativity and doom and gloom being beamed out on a daily basis. I will from now on not indulge in the negative and focus on the good things. I think I will wait it out for my dole and hope that it is backpayed, sign off and do a TEFL course. I have signed up for First Aid course which is free, my Dad's death made me realise how valuable something like First Aid can be in a emergency and I also called Smart Choice Homeless Shelter and will be feeding the homeless next Tuesday at 9pm. In the meantime I will just count my blessings and hope that it all works out.

Thanks for the replies though, it makes me feel less alone in this world.

Kivaro

KevinVonSpiel wrote: »

I think the world is shit everywhere right now.

No, it's not.
It's an early Saturday morning where I live, and as I watched the sun from my balcony rising over the golf-course below me, I (for the upteem time) delighted in my decision to leave your godforsaken country. I imagined what I would be doing in my hometown in Ireland and it was very limited. There is so much for me to do here today, but I will start out with a swim in our resort-style pool, then head for lunch, then head to a local College Football game with 80,000 of my closest friends. There will no knackers or scumbags on my walk to the stadium. There will no over-priced food just because it's game-day. It wont be pissing down rain on my head at any time during the day, and when I head to the pubs after the game, no-one will be falling around drunk or trying to pick a fight with me.

The economy is fine here. My family are begging people to come over here because of the available decent paying jobs. The quality of life is almost Utopian. We are expecting another 2 or 3 months of between 20 to 30 Degrees (C) weather, with hiking, canoeing, and overnight camping planned for the upcoming weekends.

So OP; don't believe that just because it's shite in Ireland, then it must be crap everywhere else also. Someone suggested a ferry to England. Go for it. Beg or borrow the money to get started over there, where you should be able to get some sort of job. SAVE your money and then aim for the place of your dreams. Decide what you want in life. That's what I did. I decided what was most important; quality of life, outdoor lifestyle, no scumbagery, good weather and then I moved there. The job fell into place after a while.

And when posters say to you: don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out ............ well that's the usual Irish begrudgery or lack of incentive to improve their own lives.

bowsie010

Kivaro wrote: »

No, it's not.
It's an early Saturday morning where I live, and as I watched the sun from my balcony rising over the golf-course below me.....

And Where is this Utopia?

KevinVonSpiel

bowsie010 wrote: »

And Where is this Utopia?

I think he means the USA... as we know, it's not anything like phucked right now.

bowsie010

KevinVonSpiel wrote: »

I think he means the USA... as we know, it's not anything like phucked right now.

Thanks.
Ha.

CrazyRabbit

Royal Irish wrote: »

If your in good shape my advice would be to join a foreign army, like the Royal Irish regiment or the US army. You will have a income and get to see the world.

My sister did this, and has not regretted it. She tried joining the Irish Army, but was declined. Same for the British Army...but they passed her CV and test results to the RAF who recruited her instantly.

She has spent quite some time in Basra and Kandahar, but in relatively safety at the airfields. Now she has a permanent posting in Cyprus. She also met her husband in the RAF and they are happily married 2 years now.

No matter where she has been posted, she has loved every minute of it. I'd be half tempted to do the same, but I'm not very good at taking orders

Kivaro

Kivaro wrote: »

No, it's not.
It's an early Saturday morning where I live, and as I watched the sun from my balcony rising over the golf-course below me, I (for the upteem time) delighted in my decision to leave your godforsaken country. I imagined what I would be doing in my hometown in Ireland and it was very limited. There is so much for me to do here today, but I will start out with a swim in our resort-style pool, then head for lunch, then head to a local College Football game with 80,000 of my closest friends. There will no knackers or scumbags on my walk to the stadium. There will no over-priced food just because it's game-day. It wont be pissing down rain on my head at any time during the day, and when I head to the pubs after the game, no-one will be falling around drunk or trying to pick a fight with me.

The economy is fine here. My family are begging people to come over here because of the available decent paying jobs. The quality of life is almost Utopian. We are expecting another 2 or 3 months of between 20 to 30 Degrees (C) weather, with hiking, canoeing, and overnight camping planned for the upcoming weekends.

So OP; don't believe that just because it's shite in Ireland, then it must be crap everywhere else also. Someone suggested a ferry to England. Go for it. Beg or borrow the money to get started over there, where you should be able to get some sort of job. SAVE your money and then aim for the place of your dreams. Decide what you want in life. That's what I did. I decided what was most important; quality of life, outdoor lifestyle, no scumbagery, good weather and then I moved there. The job fell into place after a while.

And when posters say to you: don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out ............ well that's the usual Irish begrudgery or lack of incentive to improve their own lives.

Thank God someone finally said it. What's 10,000 times more irritating than Irish people moaning about Ireland is the narrow minded people who think it's 'like that everywhere'. It just isn't. I've lived in 3 countries in the last 2 years and had no problem finding employment. Even here in London, it's nothing like Dublin. All my friends have decent jobs and bars/restaurants/shops are always packed. Feels no different than it did in 2006. But of course, so many Irish people will still insist that Ireland is the best country in the world and that wanting to leave means running away from your problems and other such sh1t. For God's sake, it doesn't have to be Zimbabwe to still have significant problems which make it worthwhile heading off elsewhere for a bit/forever. But of course, Irish people will point out anything they can find to 'prove' that whatever country you live in is as bad as/worse than Ireland. I totally agree with you. OP, ignore the begrudgers. If you want to leave, leave. It doesn't have to be permanent.