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New Sub on the block....Should I put Irish on CV for subbing or not?

  • 03-09-2010 4:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭


    :)Hi everyone!

    Just graduated and registered with the TC for business subjects which believe me, are NOT in demand right now!!

    Friends have advised me that I should add Irish to my subjects (daughter of native speaker, fluent but only LC A1 so not eligible to teach). I have enrolled on the Diploma in Irish in Galway the C1 and they told me this will qualify me to teach Irish to JC higher.

    Here's the question...the course is part-time over 2 years so technically I wont be qualified to teach it until Sept 2012. Do I, or do I not put Irish as a subject on my CV when I submit it for subbing purposes ( or S&S purposes as I have just learned from this forum!!:))

    I don't want to lie obviously but I want to give my CV an advantage. Has anyone out there subbed while just doing the C1? Or should I wait till 2012 to put it in.

    Thanks for any tips on this (or anything at all to do with subbing )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Newteacher wrote: »
    :)Hi everyone!

    Just graduated and registered with the TC for business subjects which believe me, are NOT in demand right now!!

    Friends have advised me that I should add Irish to my subjects (daughter of native speaker, fluent but only LC A1 so not eligible to teach). I have enrolled on the Diploma in Irish in Galway the C1 and they told me this will qualify me to teach Irish to JC higher.

    Here's the question...the course is part-time over 2 years so technically I wont be qualified to teach it until Sept 2012. Do I, or do I not put Irish as a subject on my CV when I submit it for subbing purposes ( or S&S purposes as I have just learned from this forum!!:))

    I don't want to lie obviously but I want to give my CV an advantage. Has anyone out there subbed while just doing the C1? Or should I wait till 2012 to put it in.

    Thanks for any tips on this (or anything at all to do with subbing )

    If you're doing the Dioplóma sa Ghaeilge Fheidhmeach, a two-year part-time course, you won't be eligible to teach Irish after it: it is equivalent to 1st Year Irish in a BA. I know because I did it. If you feel comfortable with sitting in a classroom chatting to kids in Irish then put it down on your CV (obviously the Teaching Council won't look at you until you have the degree in Irish), even before you do the Dioplóma. If you don't feel comfortable enough, leave it out. Principals are among the most practical people you'll meet: you either can do the job or not.

    But, at the end of the day, if you have any grá for the Irish you'll be much better off, job-wise, just doing the full degree. You have it for the rest of your life then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Newteacher


    Thanks a million Dionysus!....even though you have left me broken hearted:(

    There doesn't seem to be any point in me doing this course then? And I couldn't face into full time study for four years to add an extra subject..

    It's strange that the course organisers say it would be ok to JC but the TC don't recognise it. I wonder what principal's think.

    Thanks again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    As far as I know you're either eligible to teach a subject or your not i.e. the idea of being able to teach something to J.C. level doesnt really exist. Thats was I was told anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭Terri26


    You're not qualified to teach Irish so no you can't put it on your cv in that manner. what you can do is mention the a1 on your cv but stress in your cover letter that you are fluent in Irish would feel comfortable teaching it (if you are). if youa re subbing and they are desperate for a irish teacher they will use you.
    to answer your previous thread yes they could ring you at 8am and you go in then. In my school it's worse as our principal expects our sub to come in and check the board to see if he is on unless of course he knows previously if someone is out.
    however you are not expected to prepare lesson plans and work in all differnt subject. perhaps have soemthing ready in your subject area and keep something in mind for other classes like crosswords/quiz to keep them occupied rather than them sitting there doing nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Newteacher


    Thanks Terri...you are a mine of information!

    In your opinion...would the A1 in Irish LC have the same message to a desperate principal as the course I am about to do?....I'd appreciate an opinion before I fork out my precious euro on the course!:)

    Thanks for any tips!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Newteacher wrote: »
    Thanks Terri...you are a mine of information!

    In your opinion...would the A1 in Irish LC have the same message to a desperate principal as the course I am about to do?....I'd appreciate an opinion before I fork out my precious euro on the course!:)

    Thanks for any tips!

    Why don't you do the part-time BA at night? (I surmise you already have a BA?) UCD definitely runs it, and so too will other universities. You can take as many credits as you are up to each year. I have to go back and do two more years so I know what I'm talking about in terms of the interaction between academic qualifications and the job market for teachers of Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    Terri26 wrote: »
    You're not qualified to teach Irish so no you can't put it on your cv in that manner. what you can do is mention the a1 on your cv but stress in your cover letter that you are fluent in Irish would feel comfortable teaching it (if you are).

    +1 for mentioning it on the cover letter.

    Also, have you tried the gaelcholáistí? With fluent Irish, you could be in demand for S&S.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Newteacher


    Thanks Double D's......

    BComm actually....:).Will check out the part-time BA but having just finished college...not sure if I want to knuckle down again so quick. Doing Irish isn't really study. I'd enjoy that.

    No Gaelc. close enough to me for subbing but worth thinking about or perhaps visiting .

    Thanks guys!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,575 Mod ✭✭✭✭dory


    I would also say part time degree would be best. As was said above, there is no such thing as being qualified for JC. What they may have meant was that some principals might be ok giving people who finish that course hours to JC.

    You could also look into TEG. You don't even have to do the course you can just sit the C2 exam. Doesn't qualify you for anything but would prove your fluency to principals. See www.teg.ie for details.


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