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Wrestling's Stiffest Matches

  • 02-09-2010 6:15pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering if anyone knows of any good stiff matches or even a match where someone get's pissed and starts stiffing someone!

    Perry Saturn vs Mike Bell is a great example!



    I know alot of the Japanese stuff is quite stiff and I've also seen Samoa Joe/Kenta as well as Joe & Necrobutcher which were amazing!

    Anyone got any more? Videos welcome!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭hitman79


    Ouch that landing on his head outside the ring looking fecking sore.

    Jaysus i'd forgotten about Terri ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Joe vs Low Ki from early ROh was stiff as f*ck.

    Nobody did stiff quite like Stan hansen and Vader though - to the extent that Hansen punched Vader's eye out of its socket.:eek:

    Part 1:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭waltersobchak


    Really wierd i actually stumbled across that Saturn match on youtube earlier in the week..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Quite an old one now but Brody and Luger in the cage in Florida from the late eighties. Basically the background to it was Luger was new to the business, was there about 8 months, and was pissing off a lot of the older guys by not showing enough respect. He went to Bruiser Brody before their match and told him how the match was going to go down which you do NOT do to an experienced guy, especially one like Brody! During the match Brody decided to stop selling for Luger to teach him a lesson and stiffed him quite a number of times. In the end Luger runs out of the cage to the back...



    Some might say what Brody did was unprofessional and exposed the business but Bad News Brown in a shoot said Luger had been told to get his act together but had refused, and that Luger had it coming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    Actually I just remembered the New Jack/ Gypsy Joe match as well, he took some slap off the bat!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    This is called "wrestlings stiffest matches". New Jack is not even related to a wrestler. That stunt with Gypsy Joe should what an unprofessional piece of crap new jack is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Can't resist highly recommending one of my favourite matches ever

    KENTA vs Katsuhiko Nakajima March 1st 2009





    Just watch the opening exchange and tell me you're not hooked!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    gimmick wrote: »
    This is called "wrestlings stiffest matches". New Jack is not even related to a wrestler. That stunt with Gypsy Joe should what an unprofessional piece of crap new jack is.


    Oh I completely agree, total trash "wrestling" but still one of the stiffest thing I've seen occur in a ring. I must admit though that CZW etc are guilty pleasures of mine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Also, in his WCW match, Goldberg was supposed to steam-roller Regal. Instead Regal, pissed at Goldberg's lack of wrestling talent and rise to the top, decides to embarrass him on TV, add some stiff shots and force Goldberg to wrestle!
    Check it out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    ^ Brilliant, so awkward to watch aswell!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭mehfesto


    Didn't Vader paralyse someone before fighting stiff?
    Pretty sure I heard about that before!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Jolt2007




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    Quite an old one now but Brody and Luger in the cage in Florida from the late eighties. Basically the background to it was Luger was new to the business, was there about 8 months, and was pissing off a lot of the older guys by not showing enough respect. He went to Bruiser Brody before their match and told him how the match was going to go down which you do NOT do to an experienced guy, especially one like Brody! During the match Brody decided to stop selling for Luger to teach him a lesson and stiffed him quite a number of times. In the end Luger runs out of the cage to the back...



    Some might say what Brody did was unprofessional and exposed the business but Bad News Brown in a shoot said Luger had been told to get his act together but had refused, and that Luger had it coming.

    According to Larry Matysick's book, they'd worked several times before, and Luger had been seriously pissing Brody off because he didn't understand the dynamics of what would get their matches over, and wouldn't sell for Brody. The big issue was that Luger was due to make babyface comebacks in the matches, but since he no-sold the matches were getting no heat, and he was coming off flat. No wonder Brody was pissed!

    Anything pre-2000 or so, with Kensuke Sasaki or Toshiaki Kawada tends to also be really brutal....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    Actually I just remembered the New Jack/ Gypsy Joe match as well, he took some slap off the bat!

    On the subject of completely unproffessional disgraces to the industry, can I nominate the Mike Levy incident?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Whats that - Mass Transit is it?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Not a fully stiff match, but when Bob "Hardcore" Holly went stiff on Lesnar in 2002, it went pretty badly, causing Holly to break his neck. But then, Holly was pretty notorious for being stiff with the new guys, wasn't he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    gimmick wrote: »
    Whats that - Mass Transit is it?

    If I remember it right it was an incident in IWA-MS a year or two ago.

    It was for a deathmatch tournament and the guy Mike Levy was no selling or something to that effect so a group of Ian Rotten and some rednecks beat the crap out of him. It was hard to watch, the double stomps to his head were crazy!

    Video is here: http://vimeo.com/1457927


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    If I remember it right it was an incident in IWA-MS a year or two ago.

    It was for a deathmatch tournament and the guy Mike Levy was no selling or something to that effect so a group of Ian Rotten and some rednecks beat the crap out of him. It was hard to watch, the double stomps to his head were crazy!

    Video is here: http://vimeo.com/1457927

    You beat me to it - I didn't actually know the video was still floating about!

    He was put in with Mickie Knuckles, the only woman there who could string a few moves together, who actually had an appearance booked with TNA. He thought she was taking liberties, so he stiffed her back a bit - bad idea. Knuckes kicked the crap out of him, he lay down for the pin, and then Rotten and his Redneck friends came out to beat him up some more. Horrible to watch.

    Knuckles started in TNA, then broke her femur in front of about 50 people in a school gym. Insert cold-hearted 'karma' comment here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭campo


    I remember when Cody Rhodes made his debut against Bob Holly that came across like Holly was very stiff with him eitheir that or Rhodes sold really really well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Kobashi - Misawa

    Anything with Stan Hansen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Balasubbie


    Joe versus Kobashi, ROH, October 2005.


    http://www.viddler.com/explore/BULLA87/videos/2/


    Enjoy, kids....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭cactus86


    If I remember it right it was an incident in IWA-MS a year or two ago.

    It was for a deathmatch tournament and the guy Mike Levy was no selling or something to that effect so a group of Ian Rotten and some rednecks beat the crap out of him. It was hard to watch, the double stomps to his head were crazy!

    Video is here: http://vimeo.com/1457927

    thats rough. i dont mind a certain amount of garbage wrestling, but them matches....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Fitzy101


    Balasubbie wrote: »
    Joe versus Kobashi, ROH, October 2005.


    http://www.viddler.com/explore/BULLA87/videos/2/


    Enjoy, kids....

    Have this DVD, Amazing match.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    With all due respect to the people posting it I can't stand to even hear about those ridiculous Super Violent Tournament of death matches with losers like Necro Butcher & Axl Rotten who somehow find employment in a Sport after going at each other with florensent Light Tubes & Gardening Strimmers.Anyone remember Holly vs Lashley matches on ECW years ago there was so many spuds in that match.Me & my brothers watched it laughing it was so unprofessional.Just one example (otiers have been named) at how much of a Pr*ck Bob Holly was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    New Jack is scum. I was actually reading up about him the other the night. There was those 2 incidents, the first where he tried to throw that other guy (crap memory, dont recall his name :o ) off the scaffolding onto the turnbuckle and, in his own words, kill him pr seriously injury him as revenge for a move that went wrong some time before it. Then there was when he stabbed that promoter I think it was several times in/outside the ring.

    I have a very bad memory despite reading it a few days ago :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    Archimedes wrote: »
    New Jack is scum. I was actually reading up about him the other the night. There was those 2 incidents, the first where he tried to throw that other guy (crap memory, dont recall his name :o ) off the scaffolding onto the turnbuckle and, in his own words, kill him pr seriously injury him as revenge for a move that went wrong some time before it. Then there was when he stabbed that promoter I think it was several times in/outside the ring.

    I have a very bad memory despite reading it a few days ago :o

    Apparently NJ had suffered brain damage and was permanently blinded in his right eye from the initial incident with the scaffold. Here's a link to the vid of the second incident. http://wrestlinggonewrong.com/video/newjack_throws_vic.html

    Not sure if 'scum' is the right word to use - I genuinely think the guy is a psychopath, and only the most unscrupulous promoter around would ever use him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Jolt2007 wrote: »

    I saw that match a few years ago. Very unprofessional by Inoki. He blamed Antonio for not selling any of the moves - But it was Antonio's character as a giant, to be able to deflect and take moves like that. Inoki didn't engage properly through the match, and legitimately kicked Antonio hard in the face there - His face was covered in blood after it.

    Inoki came off as an arsehole tbh. You don't stomp a man's face in because he's playing a giant character.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    geeky wrote: »
    Apparently NJ had suffered brain damage and was permanently blinded in his right eye from the initial incident with the scaffold. Here's a link to the vid of the second incident. http://wrestlinggonewrong.com/video/newjack_throws_vic.html

    Not sure if 'scum' is the right word to use - I genuinely think the guy is a psychopath, and only the most unscrupulous promoter around would ever use him.

    He is definitely a psychopath. I think the best story to illiustrate this is a few years ago at an event where he was served a 7-UP instead of Sprite resulting in 30 police officers having to remove him from the building :eek:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    He is definitely a psychopath. I think the best story to illiustrate this is a few years ago at an event where he was served a 7-UP instead of Sprite resulting in 30 police officers having to remove him from the building :eek:

    Just be thankful he wasn't looking for coke and got a pepsi. It would have been a massacre.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    I remember this from Foleys DVD, basically Vader punches him in the face loads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Jolt2007


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I saw that match a few years ago. Very unprofessional by Inoki. He blamed Antonio for not selling any of the moves - But it was Antonio's character as a giant, to be able to deflect and take moves like that. Inoki didn't engage properly through the match, and legitimately kicked Antonio hard in the face there - His face was covered in blood after it.

    Inoki came off as an arsehole tbh. You don't stomp a man's face in because he's playing a giant character.

    Not to excuse him but I heard it was the stiff shots to the back of the head that really set Inoki off, and that would tie in when watching the match. Whatever the reason he certainly kicked him far too many times.

    Dr Death v Steve Ray. The ever reliable wiki says this:
    In 1991, Herb Abrams was owed money by Steve Ray and wrongly suspected that Ray was sleeping with his wife. On May 10, 1991 during a television taping at Hotel Pennsylvania in New York City, Abrams paid Steve Williams an extra $100 for the night to break Ray's nose during their match. The ensuing shoot aired in its entirety on an episode of Fury Hour.


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