White Irish leave, Black Irish stay....may be trouble ahead?

darkman2

So the white Irish and other white nationalities leave - Poland is doing well as are many other Eastern EU states. Irish people are gettting the **** out of here. Africans are staying - who wants to go back to Africa?

Problem is because of this the racial divide is increasing. When, not if, the country defaults on it's debt it will be every man for himself. We may only have African immigrants left in a year's time! But serious problems are coming for them and other immigrants.

What do you think of the strange dynamic facing us?

Cuddlytroll

Ironic username much?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

darkman2 wrote: »

So the white Irish and other white nationalities leave - Poland is doing well as are many other Eastern EU states. Irish people are gettting the **** out of here. Africans are staying - who wants to go back to Africa?

Problem is because of this the racial divide is increasing. When, not if, the country defaults on it's debt it will be every man for himself. We may only have African immigrants left in a year's time! But serious problems are coming for them and other immigrants.

What do you think of the strange dynamic facing us?

Though you were trying to reducce the numbe of immigrants anyway??

MrStuffins

Dude, seriosuly, do you not have an "Off" switch? :rolleyes:

x PyRo

Nice to see your post doesn't end in "All immigrants out".

Usually they do.

Dudess

darkman2 wrote: »

So the white Irish and other white nationalities leave - Poland is doing well as are many other Eastern EU states. Irish people are gettting the **** out of here. Africans are staying - who wants to go back to Africa?

Problem is because of this the racial divide is increasing. When, not if, the country defaults on it's debt it will be every man for himself. We may only have African immigrants left in a year's time! But serious problems are coming for them and other immigrants.

What do you think of the strange dynamic facing us?

All speculation/assumption. I'll wait til it's an actual reality to answer your question.

Lukker-

TOOOOOOOOOOOK RRRRRRRRRRR JOOOBBSSS

darkman2

x PyRo wrote: »

Nice to see your post doesn't end in "All immigrants out".

Usually they do.

Nice to see you avoid an issue most are thinking. It is logical that if so many white Irish are leaving and not so many black Irish then the racial divide increases - no? Please explain otherwise.

MrStuffins

darkman2 wrote: »

Nice to see you avoid an issue most are thinking. It is logical that if so many white Irish are leaving and not so many black Irish then the racial divide increases - no? Please explain otherwise.

Yeah, it's the hot topic of conversation around here! :rolleyes:

darkman2

MrStuffins wrote: »

Yeah, it's the hot topic of conversation around here! :rolleyes:

Oh it's in the back of your mind and everyones. Be politically correct and devoid of reality if you wish....

Remember what I asked

It is logical that if so many white Irish are leaving and not so many black Irish then the racial divide increases - no?

MrStuffins

darkman2 wrote: »

Oh it's in the back of your mind and everyones. Be politically correct and devoid of reality if you wish....

Yup, you're 100% correct.

Everyone is secretly racist and we just hide it by being politically correct!

Wow, you've delved so deeply into my mind that i now feel violated! :rolleyes:

darkman2

MrStuffins wrote: »

Yup, you're 100% correct.

Everyone is secretly racist and we just hide it by being politically correct!

Wow, you've delved so deeply into my mind that i now feel violated! :rolleyes:

Your pulling a PC card to win popularity - it's worn out here. Once again I ask


It is logical that if so many white Irish are leaving and not so many black Irish then the racial divide increases - no?


Answer that question. You have a brain don't you? You are capable of independent thought?

paky

op i agree with you.

so many people on this site find it hard to discuss this issue with any sense of maturity.

personally i feel the current ethnic state of ireland is in complete dissarray.

ireland has completely lost its identity and has become europes prostitute.

state of the place

Dudess

paky wrote: »

op i agree with you.

so many people on this site find it hard to discuss this issue with any sense of maturity.

personally i feel the current ethnic state of ireland is in complete dissarray.

ireland has completely lost its identity and has become europes prostitute.

state of the place

Ironic username much?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

paky wrote: »

op i agree with you.

so many people on this site find it hard to discuss this issue with any sense of maturity.

personally i feel the current ethnic state of ireland is in complete dissarray.

ireland has completely lost its identity and has become europes prostitute.

state of the place

Well, that's what it gets for acting like new money white trash for the last 8 years!

Bodhisopha

What exactly do you mean by "racial divide"?

MrStuffins

darkman2 wrote: »

Your pulling a PC card to win popularity - it's worn out here. Once again I ask


It is logical that if so many white Irish are leaving and not so many black Irish then the racial divide increases - no?


Answer that question. You have a brain don't you? You are capable of independent thought?

There is no "Racial Divide", a divide exists because of ignorant minds like yourselves.

In fact, if all the people like YOU left, there'd be no divide at all and myself, my black mate, my orange brother and my purple buddy could all live happily together and not have to listen to your rubbish anymore!

paky

MrStuffins wrote: »

There is no "Racial Divide", a divide exists because of ignorant minds like yourselves.

In fact, if all the people like YOU left, there'd be no divide at all and myself, my black mate, my orange brother and my purple buddy could all live happily together and not have to listen to your rubbish anymore!

honestly like??? igorant minds?

Alot of people share this opinion. Maybe if you dont like it you should leave. It was your kind of thinking that got us in this mess.

MrStuffins

paky wrote: »

honestly like??? igorant minds?

Alot of people share this opinion. Maybe if you dont like it you should leave. It was your kind of thinking that got us in this mess.

What mess is this exactly?

And why should i leave? Am i not white enough for you?

lugha

paky wrote: »

op i agree with you.

so many people on this site find it hard to discuss this issue with any sense of maturity.

personally i feel the current ethnic state of ireland is in complete dissarray.

ireland has completely lost its identity and has become europes prostitute.

state of the place

Aren't you from Belfast, outside this jurisdiction? Of course people from this state have decided that some people from outside the state are welcome to live and work here, be they from Northern Ireland, Britain or the EU. If you are suggesting we shut up shop, and if so, where would you draw the line?

Dudess

darkman2 wrote: »

Nice to see you avoid an issue most are thinking.

darkman2 wrote: »

Oh it's in the back of your mind and everyones.

darkman2 wrote: »

Your pulling a PC card to win popularity

And we all really hate Jews too, we just don't want to admit it. Your mind-reading skills - I salute them. Oh wait... it's just presumptuous tripe. Any stats for the ratio of whites to blacks leaving?
Not PC by the way (the accusation of that is also "worn out") - just not kneejerk and getting worked up over something that hasn't happened yet, and may not either. Everything you're saying is based on stuff that just popped into your head - why do you expect a constructive debate?

paky wrote: »

so many people on this site find it hard to discuss this issue with any sense of maturity.

Yeah I know what you mean...

personally i feel the current ethnic state of ireland is in complete dissarray.

ireland has completely lost its identity and has become europes prostitute.

You "feel" it? Based on what? There are some non whites here... that's about it really - can't see how Ireland has lost its identity and become Europe's prostitute. Ghettoisation problems and racial tensions along the lines of those in France and England... Ireland isn't even close.

paky wrote: »

Alot of people share this opinion.

A lot of people share the opinion that sex before marriage is sinful - what can ya do...

paky

Dudess wrote: »

And we all really hate Jews too, we just don't want to admit it. Your mind-reading skills - I salute them. Oh wait... it's just presumptuous tripe. Any stats for the ratio of whites to blacks leaving?
Not PC by the way (the accusation of that is also "worn out") - just not kneejerk and getting worked up over something that hasn't happened yet, and may not either. Everything you're saying is based on stuff that just popped into your head - why do you expect a constructive debate?

Yeah I know what you mean...

You "feel" it? Based on what? There are some non whites here... that's about it really - can't see how Ireland has lost its identity and become Europe's prostitute. Ghettoisation problems and racial tensions along the lines of those in France and England... Ireland isn't even close.

A lot of people share the opinion that sex before marriage is sinful - what can ya do...

and tell me what class of society is represented on boards.ie?

MrStuffins

paky wrote: »

and tell me what class of society is represented on boards.ie?

You completely ignored my questions?

No, you're not ignorant at all! :rolleyes:

MrStuffins

paky wrote: »

and tell me what class of society is represented on boards.ie?

Also, you're from Belfast. Why do you think you have the right to speak about immigration policy in a country you don't live in?

Unless you're from the Republic of Ireland and just live in Belfast..... which means you ARE an immigrant?

Tilt Gone

Sorry but I'm edging towards agreeing with Paky on this one. ireland IS turning into europe's prostitute. We're getting rode by everyone including our very own Government. For those that think there isn't a racial divide starting to happen I wish I believed that. Unfortunately I've seen this starting to grow at an alarming rate in small towns across the country. i travel a lot with work and tend to spend my time in rural bars across the country. Maybe it's a small town thing or just a lack of education but some of the young lads today scare me we are to belive they actually believe some of the bull**** that is coming out of their mouths.

It's shocking some of the talk I've heard recently relating to our foreign counterparts. i think people are just angry and looking for as many people to blame as they can.

lugha

Tilt Gone wrote: »

It's shocking some of the talk I've heard recently relating to our foreign counterparts. i think people are just angry and looking for as many people to blame as they can.

There is of course going to be a lot of frustration in difficult times that can often find an outlet in the wrong place. But I do not think there is a particularly serious problem in Ireland.
There aren't regular reports of immigrants being burnt out of their homes (not on this part of the island anyway ), there are no race riots on the streets and there isn't the emergence or growth of any anti-immigration political force. In short, nothing to see here.

Dudess

Tilt Gone wrote: »

Sorry but I'm edging towards agreeing with Paky on this one. ireland IS turning into europe's prostitute. We're getting rode by everyone including our very own Government. For those that think there isn't a racial divide starting to happen I wish I believed that. Unfortunately I've seen this starting to grow at an alarming rate in small towns across the country. i travel a lot with work and tend to spend my time in rural bars across the country. Maybe it's a small town thing or just a lack of education but some of the young lads today scare me we are to belive they actually believe some of the bull**** that is coming out of their mouths.

That's them, not the immigrants though. Ireland may be getting rode by its government but who else? There's some extremely misinformed nonsense believed in relation to asylum seekers. I don't believe Ireland should just let in anyone at all long-term (whatever colour/religion they are, whatever language they speak - usually those with unbalanced, unresearched stuff to say in these debates have a problem specifically with those who are non white and/or non English speaking, non western, from a poor/wartorn country, non christian; they seem far less concerned in relation to immigrants who are white, English speaking, from a developed/western country, christian) as it's just not possible - I wouldn't expect to be let into any country I felt like living in either, but Ireland DOESN'T just leave anyone in.

It's shocking some of the talk I've heard recently relating to our foreign counterparts. i think people are just angry and looking for as many people to blame as they can.

Well yeah - sometimes the wrong people are blamed though.

Doc

I just want to try and understand your statement a bit better. Are you saying that because white people are emigrating from Ireland and the existing black people who live in Ireland are remaining in Ireland there will be an increases in the differences and tensions (what I assume you mean by racial divide) between the remaining white people in Ireland and the remaining black people in Ireland?

Why should a decrees in the population of a majority race effect there attitude to a minority race unless you believe that race to be in some way worse than yours. This is the very definition of racism and your attitude is shameful.

MrStuffins

Doc wrote: »

I just want to try and understand your statement a bit better. Are you saying that because white people are emigrating from Ireland and the existing black people who live in Ireland are remaining in Ireland there will be an increases in the differences and tensions (what I assume you mean by racial divide) between the remaining white people in Ireland and the remaining black people in Ireland?

Why should a decrees in the population of a majority race effect there attitude to a minority race unless you believe that race to be in some way worse than yours. This is the very definition of racism and your attitude is shameful.

But you're thinking it too........... and so am i............... and so is everyone else.................... you're just hiding it with your pretend PC attitude............ they............ THEY..................


DEY TUK ARR JOOOOOBBBBSS!!!!!

Tilt Gone

MrStuffins wrote: »

But you're thinking it too........... and so am i............... and so is everyone else.................... you're just hiding it with your pretend PC attitude............ they............ THEY..................


DEY TUK ARR JOOOOOBBBBSS!!!!!

LOl it's funny but sad that this is actually a common phrase heard in many a taxi these days.

Doc

MrStuffins wrote: »

But you're thinking it too........... and so am i............... and so is everyone else.................... you're just hiding it with your pretend PC attitude............ they............ THEY..................


DEY TUK ARR JOOOOOBBBBSS!!!!!

Sorry your quiet correct I didn’t realise I / we were all racist can you direct to a shop where I can buy some good quality clan robes and crosses to burn.

"RABEL, RABEL, RABEL!"

Killer Wench

Heh. I thought Black Irish meant something else....

Copper23

darkman2 wrote: »

So the white Irish and other white nationalities leave - Poland is doing well as are many other Eastern EU states. Irish people are gettting the **** out of here. Africans are staying - who wants to go back to Africa?

Problem is because of this the racial divide is increasing. When, not if, the country defaults on it's debt it will be every man for himself. We may only have African immigrants left in a year's time! But serious problems are coming for them and other immigrants.

What do you think of the strange dynamic facing us?

Where do people come up with this sh*te. Things are an aweful lot better in Ireland than people think. It's not a poverty ridden slum yet and not likely to be in the near future.

General Zod

darkman2 wrote: »

Nice to see you avoid an issue most are thinking.

I usually spend my time thinking about Corr sister sandwiches.

Foxhound38

Think you may get a more understanding audience over at Stormfront.org mien fuhrer

mecanoman

Its a blame game really. A lot of people are having a reality wake up.

There's little or no money in there bank accounts, the banks are at them
to repay loans.

We have to blame someone. The "black Irish/nigerians" are well and truly in the system.

You see them in the jeeps/people carriers, army of kids which if you believe the rumours
they only have to stay in the country and claim extra benefits, plus get larger houses thru the Health Board.

We probably will end up like the UK and France with Ghetto's which is a shame.

Don't know what the answer is, but talking about it is a plus rather than
ignoring there interaction with our society and intergration from both sides.

moonpurple

this is a racist thread OP

look up thin lizzy and phil lynott on youtube (whiskey in the jar)
or paul mcgrath

and thank God for the black irish

no longer forty shades of green
forty shades of every colour
keeps the narrow racist haters in check:pac:

Terry

Where are the huge numbers of Black people that everyone is talking about?

Crann na Beatha

This post has been deleted.

Riamfada

There is an issue with changing ethnicities and national identities that should be discussed without calling racism on the OP.

I think we are where Britain was after the war and in 20 - 30 years will have a simular ethnic diversification. There are obviously positive and negative aspects to this, depending on your point of view.

IMHO people are as entitiled to fear a change in national identity as are those who welcome it.

Im unaware of the OP's previous posting past.

Ush1

paky wrote: »

honestly like??? igorant minds?

Alot of people share this opinion. Maybe if you dont like it you should leave. It was your kind of thinking that got us in this mess.

Never get bored of posting this clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT0OqHr3wHQ

amcalester

darkman2 wrote: »

.

Remember what I asked

It is logical that if so many white Irish are leaving and not so many black Irish then the racial divide increases - no?

Surely the racial divide decreases, as the difference in the number of blacks and whites decreases?

markesmith

The planet's for the people.

Methinks there's a bit of sedition going on here from Stormfront...

Amhran Nua

Tilt Gone wrote: »

Maybe it's a small town thing or just a lack of education but some of the young lads today scare me we are to belive they actually believe some of the bull**** that is coming out of their mouths.

I've definetely observed some of this attitude among younger people alright, its just a lack of understanding more than anything else. The best way to deal with it is education, and everyone making an effort to reach out to these new arrivals to our country.

Invite them to dinner, drop round for a cup of tea, make them part of the community, show them that when we say céad míle fáilte we really mean it, and every one of us has their part to play.

We can go down the marginalisation and ghettoisation route taken by most of Europe and the US, or we can go down the Irish route.

General Zod wrote: »

I usually spend my time thinking about Corr sister sandwiches.

I believe the Cannibalism dining thread is a bit further along.

thirtythirty

I for one am looking forward to an increase in mixed race kids in the next generation - my future son is going to be surrounded by smoking hot women! B*stard!

Foxhound38

Shur fleck it, introducing some new material to the national gene pool may be no bad thing anyway. The rampant inbreeding of times gone bye has taken it's toll after all!

Tordelback

Tackling the supposed facts first, the last time I looked, people who gave their continent of birth as 'Africa' in the census accounted for 1% of the population (about 40,000). I'm guessing a number of those are white South Africans and Zimbabweans or similar. I think the precious white majority can sleep easy for now.

Second, I'd like to remind our hooded crusaders that it was universally lily-white jack-the-lad fáinne-wearing GAA-supporting Guinness-swilling Irish-born bastards that got us into the present economic catastrophe, and not the handful of people who travelled to this sinking ship in the vain hope of a better life for their families. And more fool them.

christina_x

darkman2 wrote: »

Your pulling a PC card to win popularity - it's worn out here. Once again I ask


It is logical that if so many white Irish are leaving and not so many black Irish then the racial divide increases - no?


Answer that question. You have a brain don't you? You are capable of independent thought?

IMO i dont think there will be a divide in races. Yes i can see your point that there could well be more black irish than white. But guess what, the damn key word is IRISH, not black/white. Stop trying to create an issue that doesn't exist for most people.

Banned Account

darkman2 wrote: »

Your pulling a PC card to win popularity - it's worn out here. Once again I ask


It is logical that if so many white Irish are leaving and not so many black Irish then the racial divide increases - no?


Answer that question. You have a brain don't you? You are capable of independent thought?

My heart bleeds for humanity sometimes. We have seen with shocking regularity this same dark spiral of morass. Things get tough on the socio-economic front and people turn to blaming outsiders and those who are different. There is a drift to the far right which always ends in inhumanity.

Do we learn? Fúck no, we just do the same shít over and over and over again. Sometimes I'd rather just be an animal - at least I wouldn't be embarassed by my peers.

topper75

spottyelephant wrote: »

I for one am looking forward to an increase in mixed race kids in the next generation - my future son is going to be surrounded by smoking hot women! B*stard!

... so there is a wave of Scandinavian immigrants headed our way?

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Shur fleck it, introducing some new material to the national gene pool may be no bad thing anyway. The rampant inbreeding of times gone bye has taken it's toll after all!

Who jou talkin' bout Willis?

Inbreeding might happen in Iceland (fine lookin' folk funnily enough!) but not in a place washed over by Fir bolg, Celt, Norse, Saxon, Norman, Flemish, German, Dane, Lowland Scot, Palatine, Huguenot... you get my drift.

topper75

Tordelback wrote: »

universally lily-white jack-the-lad fáinne-wearing GAA-supporting Guinness-swilling Irish-born

So we are allowed to hate the Irish - that is cool?

I don't agree with the OPs point - he is making wild assumptions. There is an annoying PC attitude on boards generally though that views all multiculturalism as cool and welcome, but at the same time despises that which is native to Ireland. Such people usually also have a problem with a nerve in their left knee.