ESB cut offs and increases

JJJJNR

I'm enraged about the 5% increase in ESB charges this year, its an absolute joke while workers in the ESB get there electricity free of charge. I personally know someone who has two washing machines and two dryers going 24/7 they wash all the clothes for their whole extended family, while everyone else has to pay up or get cut off.. this is a complete piss take.

Redshift

They do not get it FOC, My sister in law works for them and they get a modest staff discount, which is nice if you can get it.

Agree about the Increase, complete joke IMO

bog master

Redshift wrote: »

They do not get it FOC, My sister in law works for them and they get a modest staff discount, which is nice if you can get it.

Agree about the Increase, complete joke IMO

Totally against the increase, but would this "staff discount", if true, no offense, but some incredible bs sometimes on here about emotive subjects;
would this not be liable to BIK?

the_dark_side

ESB - CEO Remuneration: €534,998

Redshift

bog master wrote: »

Totally against the increase, but would this "staff discount", if true, no offense, but some incredible bs sometimes on here about emotive subjects;
would this not be liable to BIK?

Good Point and I have no idea. I have to pay BIK on every little thing I get from my employer. If I were to use my company phone or laptop privately which I don't then this incurs a BIK liability, I do have to pay it on my company vehicle as it is but I don't have an issue with this.

On the flip side with a staff discount, how many others in the private sector particularly retail get a staff discount? If the ESB staff were to get hit by BIK for theirs then why not everybody?

Redshift

the_dark_side wrote: »

ESB - CEO Remuneration: €534,998

Nobody needs to earn this kind of salary, particulary in a state owned company. This is where the rot starts, everybody lower down the chain sees those at the top filling their boots and feel justified to do the same.

mikemac

JJJJNR wrote: »

I'm enraged about the 5% increase in ESB charges this year, its an absolute joke while workers in the ESB get there electricity free of charge. I personally know someone who has two washing machines and two dryers going 24/7 they wash all the clothes for their whole extended family, while everyone else has to pay up or get cut off.. this is a complete piss take.

Urban myth

There is a discount, I'm not sure if BIK applies but it probably does.

Maybe it should be scrapped but posting here that ESB staff don't pay anything doesn't help your case either

zootroid

the_dark_side wrote: »

ESB - CEO Remuneration: €534,998

How does it compare to companies of a similar size?


To be fair to the ESB, they can never do any right. If they make profits, they're ripping off the consumer. If they make losses, they're inefficient. From a PR point of view, they're always going to lose.

the_dark_side

How does it compare to companies of a similar size?

Its pretty high... especially when you consider that the highest-paid chief executive in the NHS was at Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust in London, last year earning £270,000

Padraig Mor

feelingstressed wrote: »

Urban myth

There is a discount, I'm not sure if BIK applies but it probably does.

Maybe it should be scrapped but posting here that ESB staff don't pay anything doesn't help your case either

AFAIK ESB staff receive an allowance of free electricity units (on top of their ridiculously high salary). How many units, I don't know.

Seth Brundle

the_dark_side wrote: »

ESB - CEO Remuneration: €534,998

meh, its not much considering what everyone else in there must be on!
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/average-pay-and-pension-of-esb-workers-near-euro100000-2065160.html

Gumbo

Padraig Mor wrote: »

AFAIK ESB staff receive an allowance of free electricity units (on top of their ridiculously high salary). How many units, I don't know.

more BS and myth im afraid, my other half also works for ESB and gets not allowance that you talk of! also a salary of low 20's, considering she is 30 years old and working in office admin for over 10 years with a few night courses and up skilling as required, i wouldnt class this as a

ridiculously high salary

she gets a discount of around €20-€30 bi-monthly, while not alot, but every little helps as they say in Tesco.

very similar to my mate that works for a larger retail outfit in Blanch shopping centre who gets approx 50% at least of some of the clothes in the shop!

JJJJNR wrote: »

I'm enraged about the 5% increase in ESB charges this year, its an absolute joke while workers in the ESB get there electricity free of charge. I personally know someone who has two washing machines and two dryers going 24/7 they wash all the clothes for their whole extended family, while everyone else has to pay up or get cut off.. this is a complete piss take.

OP, i think i can safely say you are fibbing here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

MrDarcy

feelingstressed wrote: »

Urban myth

There is a discount, I'm not sure if BIK applies but it probably does.

Maybe it should be scrapped but posting here that ESB staff don't pay anything doesn't help your case either

As far as I'm aware, your employer can give you a benefit which, if it is in the companies core business, (for example if you worked at reception in a gym and your employer gave you a free gym membership, or if you worked for Ryanair and they gave you 20 free flights a year), then there is no tax liability. However if you worked for say HP and they pay your health insurance then there is obviously a liability...

The_Honeybadger

JJJJNR wrote: »

I'm enraged about the 5% increase in ESB charges this year, its an absolute joke while workers in the ESB get there electricity free of charge. I personally know someone who has two washing machines and two dryers going 24/7 they wash all the clothes for their whole extended family, while everyone else has to pay up or get cut off.. this is a complete piss take.

ESB staff don't get free ESB, believe it or not I actually know a guy who was sacked from the ESB (many years ago) for tampering with the meter in his home to get free electricity, he get's the p**s taken out of him for it still, and the lovely salary and pension he'd now be looking fwd to LOL.

RichardAnd

JJJJNR wrote: »

I'm enraged about the 5% increase in ESB charges this year, its an absolute joke while workers in the ESB get there electricity free of charge. I personally know someone who has two washing machines and two dryers going 24/7 they wash all the clothes for their whole extended family, while everyone else has to pay up or get cut off.. this is a complete piss take.

I have friends who work for revenue and they dont' pay taxes :rolleyes:

No offence but I think you made that up. ESB staff, as has been pointed out, do get some money off their bills but this is nothing unusual. CIE employees get cheaper rail travel aswell.

However, before someone turns this against state workers, I would point out that many private companies give staff discounts too. I get free coffee and tea in work as well as a free gym. Cheaper electricity is the same thing.

ei.sdraob

He he there goes the greens electric car dream

moceri

When I last Checked, Padraig Mc Manus Was Paid a Package of €750,000 in 2009

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/government-td-calls-for-cut-in-pay-for-semi-state-ceos-468677.html

When is someone going to Grab him firmly by the Curly Tail and tug hard to get his SNOUT out of the Trough. I am sick of paying for RIP-OFF electricity Prices. The Standing Charges are an even bigger RIP-OFF; more than three times what I would pay if I lived in France.

astrofool

moceri wrote: »

When I last Checked, Padraig Mc Manus Was Paid a Package of €750,000 in 2009

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/government-td-calls-for-cut-in-pay-for-semi-state-ceos-468677.html

When is someone going to Grab him firmly by the Curly Tail and tug hard to get his SNOUT out of the Trough. I am sick of paying for RIP-OFF electricity Prices. The Standing Charges are an even bigger RIP-OFF; more than three times what I would pay if I lived in France.

You mean 90% nuclear powered France? vs. fossil fuel powered Ireland?

Groucho2000

The french government also subsidise the nuclear power stations so the french people pay for it in other ways i.e. taxes.

dunsandin

Heard on the radio today that 90,000 households were on some form of catch-up payment plan with the ESB due to not being able to afford their bills. This is a blunt testament to how many families are under severe pressure to afford their leccy, and yet prices are due to increase(yet again). Severe lack of Govt cop on being displayed here. To help bolster the economy they should be legislating severe downward price adjustment, and yet the Regulator is pressing for an upward movement to help "balance" the amount going towards alternative and marginal generation methods(my words, not his).

acotone

Hi,

Worked for ESB (IT) as a contracter and was disgusted with the work ethos there, people were on sick leave for months for no apparent reason, bragging about their pension packages, state of the art equipment being handled by amateurs...my opinion is that they should privatize ESB a.s.a.p

ILA

90,000 families are currently in arrears URL="http://www.independent.ie/national-news/110000-families-in-serious-arrears-on-their-utility-bills-2349476.html"]1[/URL to the ESB, and there's a further 23,000 in arrears to Bord Gais for what are basic, essential services in this day and age.

The ESB has disconnected 10,678 users this year who fell into arrears on their electricity bill. These disconnections, as we know from Seamus Sherlock's campaign, is also charged to the users who are being disconnected, with a €97 disconnection visit charge. It also costs €300 in the form of some sort of charge/desposit to reconnect.

This is absolutely disgraceful behaviour from a State run company, and it needs to be reigned in seriously. Cowen and Co. only seem to be interested in skulling as many pints as possible for the economy hits rock bottom, and seem to be regulars at it, according to the news today.

The CEO of the ESB got paid €750,000 during 2009. Go figure. However, I don't think privatatisation would be any better, given that it would be even more profit based.