How much did Toney earn for UFC 118.

GTR63

I'm probably going to regret asking but does anyone here know how much Toney earned for him "performance" at UFC 118.I haven't read all the 118 Threat so if its been said I apolagise.I haven't been able to find the paydays on any site only the bonuses.

scudzilla

Not sure if Commission in Massachusets have to disclose the pay like NSAC does, normally it'd be out by now

Kettle316

Read somewhere last week that he was suppose to be making between $750,000 - $1,000,000!!

If he did get that much its made that fight an even bigger joke than it already was!!

Minstrel27

Kettle316 wrote: »

Read somewhere last week that he was suppose to be making between $750,000 - $1,000,000!!

If he did get that much its made that fight an even bigger joke than it already was!!

LOL at Dana White if he earned that much money. Easiest money ever made.

dunkamania

I doubt the joke is on Dana White, if he was paying JT that much, than its because it was profitable for him to do so.

JacksonHeightsOwn

dunkamania wrote: »

I doubt the joke is on Dana White, if he was paying JT that much, than its because it was profitable for him to do so.

the arena held 20,000 fans, they only got 17,000 arses on seats, and i think that includes freebies

so not a resounding success, i find it hard to beleive their ppv figures would have been as high usual,

it was a weak enough after all, i think any half-wit could figure there was going oi be alot of fights going the distance

me personally, i tend to avoid the cards with cotoure these days,

he may be a legend and all, but he's been nothing short of a dose of valium the past 5 years

shels1993

Ya also heard 750k which I think is the most as Chuck earned 550k could be wrong though.

El_Drago

shels1993 wrote: »

Ya also heard 750k which I think is the most as Chuck earned 550k could be wrong though.

Didn't Lesnar make something similar against Mir on his debut?

supremenovice

El_Drago wrote: »

Didn't Lesnar make something similar against Mir on his debut?

Whatever he was paid,he wasnt paid enough.
He brings in Tyson-like PPV numbers.

DrPhilG

Chuck and Lesnar both have contracts that pay a percentage of PPV income. Lesnar only gets $400k a fight but with sponsorship and a cut of the massive PPV figures he draws he makes a fortune. Estimated at $4M for UFC 100.

I wouldn't be surprised if Toney was on a PPV based pay deal. He's big headed enough to believe that he'd bring in big figures and it would make sense on the UFC's part.

Regardless, as Dunkamania says, DW is no fool. He'd only pay Toney a figure that makes sense. If not in terms of the PPV buys the "freak show" brought in then for the satisfaction of bringing in a boxing world champ and making him look like a tit.

cowzerp

DrPhilG wrote: »

Regardless, as Dunkamania says, DW is no fool. He'd only pay Toney a figure that makes sense. If not in terms of the PPV buys the "freak show" brought in then for the satisfaction of bringing in a boxing world champ and making him look like a tit.

Agreed, I'm sure Dana made back what he payed and more for doing that fight, but on a side note-Toney is not Recognised world Boxing Champ, the titles he holds are like been the Rumble in Rush world Champion! i was not even aware he had them till this UFC, and I'm a big Boxing fan.

People talking about James Toney as if he is relevant in the Boxing world need to take a reality check-he has not been relevant in years and that's why he cant get big fights, maybe now his profile is back up he might get a big fight which he will lose in for sure.

The Boxer against MMA thing is stupid, they dont say BJJ against MMA etc and then say MMA beats BJJ-of course a trained athlete in his chosen sport wins over an opposing sports person, plus it was not no risk as it was a washed up overweight boxer who does not even have 1 punch KO power in reality which was his only hope due to his lack of MMA skill and Footwork which would be essential for any Boxer to have a hope in MMA

The debate should be which is a better spectacle and even then its a matter of opinion, At the top level i prefer Boxing but you certainly get more top level MMA so that makes MMA a great spectator sport.

BoxingIrel.com

DrPhilG wrote: »

Regardless, as Dunkamania says, DW is no fool. He'd only pay Toney a figure that makes sense. If not in terms of the PPV buys the "freak show" brought in then for the satisfaction of bringing in a boxing world champ and making him look like a tit.

Maybe they could wheel out Ali or even Foreman next - that would really show them whos boss!

DrPhilG

BoxingIrel.com wrote: »

Maybe they could wheel out Ali or even Foreman next - that would really show them whos boss!

I'm not saying that Toney is a top level boxer... I think every serious fan, both boxing and MMA, knows that Toney is well past his best. But he is still a big name and if you're trying to score points in the (daft) boxing vs MMA debate (and we all know DW is whether he admits it or not), then James Toney is a quite respectable scalp.

That's why DW is now saying he won't do any more "crossover" fights. He has a big enough name on the list so if Mayweather or Pacquaio etc did try (which they wouldn't, not enough money), DW would just say no way, it's already been tried and Toney was destroyed.

Toney was the perfect guy for DW to play the game with. A big enough name to gloat about but fat, slow and far enough over the hill to be a very low risk factor in the fight.

MrStuffins

BoxingIrel.com wrote: »

Maybe they could wheel out Ali or even Foreman next - that would really show them whos boss!

It's incredible to think you have been following this entire story, been posting on the subject, yet you STILL think that UFC "wheeled out" this Boxer to fight an MMA fighter.

James Toney came looking for this fight. He chased Dana White around America looking for this fight. And he got it!

His pride probably wishes he'd never fought, but his bank manager is delighted im sure!

Jaysoose

This is the attitude i really dont understand about this fight, toney was flapping his gums and turning up at every ufc event asking for the fight. Randy coutoure never went looking for a boxing match and done his job professionaly using the skills and tactics that would win the fight.

The whole boxing versus Ufc thing is a non runner as they are so very different sports. Toney should thank dana white for his payday and it should be left at that.

For what its worth BoxingIrel.com is coming off like a child in all of this and should stick to posting about a subject he knows about as he clearly doesnt have the first idea about Mixed Martial Arts.

MrStuffins

Jaysoose wrote: »

This is the attitude i really dont understand about this fight, toney was flapping his gums and turning up at every ufc event asking for the fight. Randy coutoure never went looking for a boxing match and done his job professionaly using the skills and tactics that would win the fight.

The whole boxing versus Ufc thing is a non runner as they are so very different sports. Toney should thank dana white for his payday and it should be left at that.

For what its worth BoxingIrel.com is coming off like a child in all of this and should stick to posting about a subject he knows about as he clearly doesnt have the first idea about Mixed Martial Arts.

He can't, he's been banned from the Boxing forum for similar antics.

winston82

MrStuffins wrote: »

He can't, he's been banned from the Boxing forum for similar antics.

i can't say i'm suprised

Devastator

any boxing 'fan' slabbering about freakshows or whatever in MMA need to look hard at their own sport.


on sky sports just now...."Holyfield bids to become the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world" :rolleyes: and hes about 48 or 49 now

DrPhilG

MrStuffins wrote: »

He can't, he's been banned from the Boxing forum for similar antics.

Funny stuff!

MrStuffins

Devastator wrote: »

any boxing 'fan' slabbering about freakshows or whatever in MMA need to look hard at their own sport.


on sky sports just now...."Holyfield bids to become the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world" :rolleyes: and hes about 48 or 49 now

didn't he go to school with Randy Couture?

MrStuffins

Co-headliners James Toney ($500,000) and Randy Couture ($250,000) garnered the most attention heading into this past weekend's UFC 118 event, and they also walked home with the evening's largest disclosed checks.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) recently requested and today received the list of officially disclosed paydays from the Massachusetts State Athletic Commission.

The total disclosed payroll for the Aug. 18 event was $1.428 million.

Toney and Couture accounted for 52.52 percent of the disclosed figures.

UFC 118 was the first trip to Massachusetts for the world's biggest mixed martial arts promotion. The event took place at the TD Garden in Boston, and the main card aired live on pay-per-view. A pair of contests were also featured on Spike TV.

In a bout UFC president Dana White openly referred to as a "freak show," Couture took Toney down easily and submitted him in the first round. While the contest was only a co-feature, it netted the most attention in the days prior to the fight.

Meanwhile, in the main event, Frankie Edgar proved his April win over former champion B.J. Penn was no fluke. The new champion dominated "The Prodigy" for five rounds en route to a unanimous-decision win.

Edgar took home $96,000 for his effort, while Penn was issued a $150,000 check.

The total paydays included:

Frankie Edgar: $96,000 (includes $48,000 win bonus)
def. B.J. Penn: $150,000

Randy Couture: $250,000 (no win bonus)
def. James Toney: $500,000

Demian Maia: $68,000 ($34,000 win bonus)
def. Mario Miranda: $8,000

Gray Maynard: $46,000 ($23,000 win bonus)
def. Kenny Florian: $65,000

Nate Diaz: $60,000 ($30,000 win bonus)
def. Marcus Davis: $31,000

Joe Lauzon: $24,000 ($12,000 win bonus)
def. Gabe Ruediger: $8,000

Nik Lentz: $22,000 ($11,000 win bonus)
def. Andre Winner: $10,000

Dan Miller: $30,000 ($15,000 win bonus)
def. John Salter: $8,000

Greg Soto: $12,000 ($6,000 win bonus)
def. Nick Osipczak: $10,000

Mike Pierce: $24,000 ($12,000 win bonus)
def. Amilcar Alves: $6,000

Now, the usual disclaimer: The figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker room" or special bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays. They also do not include portions of the pay-per-view revenue that some top-level fighters receive.

Source: http://mmajunkie.com/news/20512/ufc-118-salaries-toney-500k-couture-250k-top-1-428-million-fighter-payroll.mma

Forest Master

chrisbonnie wrote: »

i find it hard to beleive their ppv figures would have been as high usual,

What's the "usual"?

Onearmedbandit

How does Penn get paid more of a fight purse than Edgar for being defeated? I can understand Toney was a special case but surely your purse should depend on how well you perform i.e. by winning the fight.

Excuse the ignorance in advance I am sure the reason for this is due to Penn's fight history and possible PPV draw but I still don't think that it is right.

cletus

Their purses arent negotiated on a fight by fight basis, its a contract, so sometimes you'll see a guy who was picked up on a pretty low contract, fighting big fights for what seems like pittance

pablohoney87

Onearmedbandit wrote: »

How does Penn get paid more of a fight purse than Edgar for being defeated? I can understand Toney was a special case but surely your purse should depend on how well you perform i.e. by winning the fight.

Excuse the ignorance in advance I am sure the reason for this is due to Penn's fight history and possible PPV draw but I still don't think that it is right.

The purses are agreed when the contract is signed. The only prize money that is determined by how you fight is any bonuses you collect for winning,
FOTN, SOTN. KOTN or if dana decides it was an entertaining fight and you deserve a bitto extra cash.

Tones69

supremenovice wrote: »

Whatever he was paid,he wasnt paid enough.
He brings in Tyson-like PPV numbers.

Think 500k for a 2 minute beating isnt a bad pay cheque

Savage Tyrant

Tones69 wrote: »

Think 500k for a 2 minute beating isnt a bad pay cheque

I'd fight ANYONE in the UFC for half a mil. No bother......I couldn't beat one of the ring girls, but hell, for half a mil, I'd stand eye to naval with Carwin/Lesnar/Cain Vas and tell him I'm about to ram my fist down his throat.
Then about 18 seconds later in the back of an ambulance, I'd start dreamin of the cash currently wiring itself to my bank.

scudzilla

James Toney walked into the riskiest fight of his career unsure of whether he would be paid for it.

Toney's trainer and manager, John Arthur, told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) the Internal Revenue Service placed a lien on the boxer's purse the night prior to his fight with Randy Couture.

The bout co-headlined UFC 118, which took place Aug. 28 at Boston's TD Garden.

Toney's camp currently is in litigation with the government agency to recover a reported $500,000 payout.

Toney was not scheduled to receive a win bonus, nor a cut of the event's pay-per-view profits, said Arthur.

In a fight widely characterized as "boxing vs. mixed martial arts," Couture (19-10 MMA, 16-7 UFC) submitted Toney (0-1 MMA, 0-1 UFC) with an arm-triangle choke in the first round of the Aug. 28 event.

In an earlier interview with MMAjunkie.com, Arthur said Toney was enraged by an incident just prior to the contest and "just wanted to hit [Randy]."

Today, the trainer and manager said he was first notified of the lien the night prior to the event by a fellow member of Toney's staff. The fighter's tax attorney confirmed the judgement as the camp members, including Toney, were preparing to make their way to the TD Garden on fight day.

The attorney claimed the IRS put a hold on Toney's purse to examine several past tax returns, Arthur said.

After initially considering the idea of pulling his fighter from the event, Arthur informed Toney of the news.

"I could see his face change from one extreme to the other extreme," Arthur said of Toney.

Arthur said he was shocked that he wasn't notified of the lien by UFC officials, and he did not speak with any representatives after the fight.

"If this would have been (boxing promoter) Dan Goossen, I would have known about it the minute he got it," he said. "I've been with Dan with many years, so I can't compare him with the UFC."

Arthur disputes the $500,000 purse reported as Toney's payout by the Massachusetts State Athletic Commission and said the actual amount is lower. Per its statutes, the MSAC distributes checks cut from the promoter to fighters following an event, provided the fighter has not committed any rules violations punishable by fine and/or suspension.

Ronnie Drimer, a representative for the MSAC, did not confirm or deny the alleged lien, though she said the office's legal team is preparing a comment on the matter.

A representative for the IRS could not be reached for comment.

UFC officials released Toney, who long campaigned for a contract, after the Couture loss.

Arthur said he's currently trying to get Toney another boxing fight before the end of the year and plans to revisit MMA in the first quarter of 2011.

"He's doing OK," Arthur said of his fighter. "He was down in spirits, but he's the type of guy that tries not to let things show. Life goes on. You have obstacles and difficulties in life, and you just have to move on."

Source : http://mmajunkie.com/news/21167/on-eve-of-ufc-debut-james-toney-learned-of-irs-lien-fight-purse-withheld.mma

Mellor

That matches what i heard, Randy got 250k and PPV cuts, Toney got a flat 500k

weemcd

Easier money was Randy's imo, man didnt even get punched, easily took down an overweight fool with no MMA skills, finished within minutes, stood up havng not took a shot, hardly even broke a sweat, to take his spot in the press conference as Mr. America poster boy for MMA, came across as looking like a class act, not disrespecting Toney. By far and wide the easiest fight he's ever had in the UFC and one he was never in danger of losing. Toney has no career inside the UFC, while anyone else at randys age would not be able to compete so regularly (if at all) in the organisation, never mind command such a salary.

Tones69

Onearmedbandit wrote: »

How does Penn get paid more of a fight purse than Edgar for being defeated? I can understand Toney was a special case but surely your purse should depend on how well you perform i.e. by winning the fight.

Excuse the ignorance in advance I am sure the reason for this is due to Penn's fight history and possible PPV draw but I still don't think that it is right.

Pretty sure the purse is in the contract before they even fight, plus whatever extra for win or ko or submission etc

To be honest brock got massive amounts for his first fight, as we all know its all about the name and to be honest BJ Penn is a huge name that people flock to see, not saying Frankie isnt but BJ is worth a lot to the UFC

Mellor

weemcd wrote: »

Easier money was Randy's imo,

Randy prob made more with PPV sales on top of fight purse.

Tones69 wrote: »

Pretty sure the purse is in the contract before they even fight, plus whatever extra for win or ko or submission etc

That doesn't make a difference. They set two amounts a fight amount and a win bonus. They decide Penn was getting more even if he lost.
This is common, Penn was a far the biggest draw at LW