Uk Extradition

ruprect101

Hello,

i was on a stag party and somebody wrecked a hotel room, unfortunatly i booked the rooms so the police called my phone... i have offered to pay half of the £400 they are looking for as they have said there are 2 options to consider 1) pay up and forget about the whole thing 2) they will get the gardai to call to our houses and arrest us and get us back to the UK ...

the guy who wrecked the room will not have any money for around 4 weeks and i am not sure they will accept waiting this long for payment ... can they actually extradite us for something so small?

please dont reply with how bad, childish it is to wreck a room, the deed is done now and i want to resolve it as quickly as possible but i am not footing the whole 400 myself for this either ....

Thanks
R

WIZE

If you booked the room do you not think you should be held responcible for the room

Also why dont you pay for the damage and get the money back from the guy who wrecked the room ?

Is he one of Your friends ?

Also did you book the room via Credit card ?

ruprect101

i am not waiting till end of sept before her has cash to pay me back ... it is not a question of responsability either ... the question was about extradition... a straight answer would be nice...

OS119

ruprect101 wrote: »

i am not waiting till end of sept before her has cash to pay me back ... it is not a question of responsability either ... the question was about extradition... a straight answer would be nice...

i can't possibly imagine that extradition would be an option on such a small matter. you need find out if the police are looking to prosecute a criminal case (probably criminal damage) and they'd know that you merely booking the rooms isn't evidence - beyond resonable doubt evidence - that you commited the criminal damage (otherwise any of the many hotel booking companies would be liable for damahge done by guests). much more likely is a civil case where the hotel chases you for the money, and that is entirely between you and the hotel, and the police will have no interest in it.

it sounds to me like the hotel calling police after discovering the damage, and the police calling you to say 'can you sort this out before the hotel gets the lawyers out' and ending their interest there and then.

contact the police officer who called you, discuss it with him, see what action - if any - the police are looking at taking (personally i can't see the police going out of their way to construct a criminal case against a person living overseas in a matter that has little evidence and is likely to be settled by civil action or the hotel forgetting about it).

i wouldn't contact the hotel unless you're happy to stump up the cash to make it go away, they'll only get shirty with you and make blood-curdling threats about having your house and getting you sent to Gitmo in a sack.

ruprect101

thanks m8 - i also found this http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/justice/arrests/extradition_to_and_from_Ireland looks like they are powerless - i will make sure they get payment from the guys who did it, but they will have to wait for it by the looks of things...

gonna seak legal advice tomorrow as i have to return calls to the police on tuesday ...

cheers again,

ruprect101

booked by pre-paid mastercard w/ about €2 on it ...

detective

OS119 wrote: »

i can't possibly imagine that extradition would be an option on such a small matter.

I would have thought the same but I once helped execute a European arrest warrant (originating in Poland) for simple theft!!!

dermot_sheehan

Certain eastern European states have mandatory prosecution, i.e. if the prosecution have enough evidence to take a case against someone, they have to, there is no discretion.

A corollary of that is they must issue a european arrest warrant.

Theft is automatically an extraditable offence under the european arrest warrant framework decision.

I've heard of inbound european arrest warrants for theft of a mobile phone and theft of a chicken.

MagicSean

Axton Spicy Bobsled wrote: »

Well if you wrecked the room morally you should pay for it but extradition for this, lol they would be lucky. Imagine what PJ at the local stáisiun would have to say them.

He could say whatever he wanted. A warrant is a warrant.

Alpha Papa

gabhain7 wrote: »

Certain eastern European states have mandatory prosecution, i.e. if the prosecution have enough evidence to take a case against someone, they have to, there is no discretion.

A corollary of that is they must issue a european arrest warrant.

Theft is automatically an extraditable offence under the european arrest warrant framework decision.

I've heard of inbound european arrest warrants for theft of a mobile phone and theft of a chicken.

Had some mules (sound guys actually) extraditing a polish chap a while ago with there polish counter parts, as the chap was wanted for arrest for theft of a push bike in poland. Some countries court systems must work so if they can deal with small crimes like this in a serious manner.

To be honest horse responsible or not i'd pay up for the damage as the last thing you need is criminal damage prosecution against you.Let your mates sort you out afterwards or try sort a payment deal with the hotel i.e 100 pound a month etc..

Dont know how likely deportation would be to the UK, but it could be possible that either a prosecution is brought against you possibly in your absence and the result could be you wanted for arrest, you are then entered into the Police national computer in the uk as wanted so if your ever stopped in UK/NI you could be arrested for the offence etc.. or you could receive a much higher fine if a civil case is brought against you.

Did the hotel take your passport on arrival or your address/DOB etc?

As did this information could be brought against you.

Again i think its easier for you to pay to end it all.

ruprect101

its a civil matter now ... spoke to the police this morning and told them they will have to get the gardai to arrest me because i am not paying on behalf of the guy and they said they would get the hptel to invoice me so i can pass the bill onto the offender .... nuff said... he will pay for the room in october...

FreudianSlippers

ruprect101 wrote: »

i am not waiting till end of sept before her has cash to pay me back ... it is not a question of responsability either ... the question was about extradition... a straight answer would be nice...

go see a solicitor then.