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Lyric fm's Breakfast show presenter - Marty Whelan.
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And now this morning's playlist (6-9 am) for Classic FM, the biggest commercial station in the UK.
11% of the UK adult population listen each week in the last set of RAJARS.
It has a 3.5% market share.....
The Gadfly - Romance
Dmitri Shostakovich (overplayed classical)
Band of Brothers
Michael Kamen (not classical)
The Walk to the Paradise Garden
Frederick Delius (from A village Romeo and Juliet ,an opera Mr Whelan probably never heard of)
Les Sylphides - Prelude
Frederic Chopin (classical)
La Campanella (classical)
Franz Liszt
Swan Lake - Scene (Act II)
Peter Ilich Tchaikovsky (classical)
Concerto No.10 in E flat major (1)
Pietro Antonio Locatelli (another classical one to cause Marty problems)
Cavalleria Rusticana - Intermezzo
Pietro Mascagni (classical, Marty's heard of this one, alright)
L'Arlesienne Suite No.1 (1)
Georges Bizet (1838-1875 : France) (classical)
Dardanus - Tambourins I & II
Jean-Philippe Rameau (1683-1764 : France) (Classical: He'd be lost on this one, too)
Trumpet Concerto in Eb major Hob.VIIe:1 (1)
Joseph Haydn (classical)
Spanish Dance No.1
Manuel De Falla (classical)
Matinees Musicales Opus 24 (1)
Benjamin Britten (There's a composer and a country with the same name, fancy that, Marty!)
You get the idea. Every one of those tunes is listenable and enjoyable. No one is resorting to Val f**kin Doonigan or embarrassed to be playing classical music.
It's presented by Tim Lihoreau, a pleasant presence with just enough links between each tune and NO BANTER.
Don't give me any crap about the backward Irish not being able to listen to such music in the morning. It works. It could work here if RTE management would grow a set and Whelan was shown the door.
Well now it's funny you should say all this because
... Mart has not alone hear of "A village Romeo and Juliet" by Friedrich Delius but he has attended it in Wexford Opera in Wexford AND he has interviewed the singers and the promoters on the Show. So you will want to place that where the gibbon put the banana. :rolleyes:
And on the others they are all well known to listeners to the Marty Whelan Show except the last one which is played only in England because everyone knows that Benjamin Britten is a third rate composer that they have to try to boost in England because they've nothing better.
And in fact Mart plays a lot of the Gadfly and of the Jazz Suite by Shostakovich and had been responsible for getting this modern classical music popular in Ireland. It's like John Barry in that regards.
He plays lots of Locatelli and of other Italians. Thais, La Boheme, Morricone, Butterfly, Einaudi and so forth. And why wouldn't he when he's taking a group of music lovers to Bella Italia as he calls it for the opera.
I know facts are hard going lads but there you are. Mart is as good and better than all the above. And we have Val Doonican the Jungle Book and the Ugly Bugs Ball today - which doesn't appear on your list for some reason. Are you editing the list down? There's a great reaction to the Johnny C Cash album too that's the Marty Recommends all this week.
And there's been a huge response to the competition for two tickets for the opera to Verona with a chance to mingle with Mart and the team and the opera stars. And the whole event with the Travel Department is sold out so this competition can't be advertising!
Like I say, lads, facts is hard!0 -
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And now this morning's playlist (6-9 am) for Classic FM, the biggest commercial station in the UK.
11% of the UK adult population listen each week in the last set of RAJARS.
It has a 3.5% market share.....
Dardanus - Tambourins I & II
Jean-Philippe Rameau (1683-1764 : France) (Classical: He'd be lost on this one, too)
You get the idea. Every one of those tunes is listenable and enjoyable. No one is resorting to Val f**kin Doonigan or embarrassed to be playing classical music.
Don't give me any crap about the backward Irish not being able to listen to such music in the morning. It works. It could work here if RTE management would grow a set and Whelan was shown the door.
And as for the Tambourines from Rameau they are also often on the playlist on the Marty Whelan Show. They are useful like the Badinerie and the Minutes Waltz for coming up to programme points especially on the half hour where the news has to be taken. That's what they're used for on all radio stations. Sorry to disappoint you with facts even about your beloved Classic FM. :cool: 0 -
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SaveOurLyric wrote: »No banter? All presenters have their flaws, but maybe listening to Mart for a while and he would add that string to his bow.
Banter is a much over-rated commodity, I find.SaveOurLyric wrote: »Clearly too much heavy classical, not enough 'nice' music, and not enough banter for Seosamh Public.
I'm a bit sick of you and Yvonne rawmeshing on about "heavy" classical. It's a sort of reverse elitism and very, very patronising.Zubeneschamali wrote: »Yes, and I wish Marty would feck off to one of them.
Likewise. I don't think his talents are suited to mornings on Lyric.DownBeaten wrote: »You don't have to go to the UK or Finland to find a decent playlist.
Straight after the MITM crap you'll get this. Below is Niall Carrol's programme playlist last Tuesday (day picked at random):
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Why, oh why do RTE management give Whelan the carte blanche to act the eejit every weekday morning.
I love Niall Carroll's show; I just don't hear it often enough since he moved from drive time to the middle of the day. I'd much prefer to hear in him in the mornings than Marty Whelan.And on the others they are all well known to listeners to the Marty Whelan Show except the last one which is played only in England because everyone knows that Benjamin Britten is a third rate composer that they have to try to boost in England because they've nothing better.
Actually, you really don't seem to know what you're talking about. Britten is highly rated world wide, and not just in the UK. Not only that, they have had excellent output from Vaughan Williams and Elgar. Arguably, you could suggest that Charles Stanford Adams has had some very interesting output but then you could also argue the toss as he was born in Ireland. I think his style tends more to the English though and he certainly contributed a lot to compositional style in the UK. Still Finghin Collins' recording of the second piano concerto sells him as an Irish composer so...And in fact Mart plays a lot of the Gadfly and of the Jazz Suite by Shostakovich and had been responsible for getting this modern classical music popular in Ireland. It's like John Barry in that regards.
You keep trying to give Marty Whelan credit for stuff he doesn't really merit. Be it Cara O'Sullivan's career or now, access to Shostokovich. In fact, Romance from the Gadfly was the theme music to a series called Reilly Ace of Spies and it is to that that the piece owes its position now I suspect.He plays lots of Locatelli and of other Italians. Thais, La Boheme, Morricone, Butterfly, Einaudi and so forth. And why wouldn't he when he's taking a group of music lovers to Bella Italia as he calls it for the opera.
I reviewed two weeks' worth of his play lists last week some time. What was noticeable by its general absence was opera. I did note the prevalence of Morricone as well - one piece in particular - but Morricone is not a classical composer.
Einaudi is an interesting one - he is very much contemporary - but he was selling out the NCH long before Whelan got his gig. And he is excellent in concert.I know facts are hard going lads but there you are. Mart is as good and better than all the above.
No.And we have Val Doonican the Jungle Book and the Ugly Bugs Ball today - which doesn't appear on your list for some reason. Are you editing the list down? There's a great reaction to the Johnny C Cash album too that's the Marty Recommends all this week.
What you list as missing frankly doesn't actually add to his reputation.And there's been a huge response to the competition for two tickets for the opera to Verona with a chance to mingle with Mart and the team and the opera stars. And the whole event with the Travel Department is sold out so this competition can't be advertising!
I passed Marty Whelan on the street last week or the week before. I can't say that I feel the need to travel to Italy with him.Like I say, lads, facts is hard!
I've noticed you have issues with them alright.Zubeneschamali wrote: »I'm also OK with themed shows like Donald Helme's Jazz Alley or Ellen Cranitch on Grace Notes, although they are not classical shows.
I'd tune in to Jazz Alley but not Grace Notes, but I know what the point of each show is, and it has a target audience.
What's the point of MITM? Irritate every possible segment of the audience?
The point I would raise about Jazz Alley, Grace Notes and also, because I caught it again at the weekend, Nova, is that they are presented by subject matter specialists. I think Grace Notes is slightly constrained to a certain amount of conservatism and I've noticed Ellen Cranitch occasionally strain against it. But all of those presenters know their stuff in depth.
Just regarding one of the items in the playlists, I didn't hear the show this whenever but at an educated guess, the Mussorgsky was an extract from Pictures at an Exhibition. It may have been solo piano although there's an orchestral transcription knocking around too. Also, Emerson Lake and Palmer had a go at arranging it as well.
Marty's programme does not appeal to me at all, I can't understand what the point of it is. If all his albums of the week come from Sony, well that's really annoying. Nothing against Sony but there are other record labels as well and I tend to expect that an album of the week has a certain selectiveness about it.
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SaveOurLyric, if I was with you at the beginning, I'm certainly not any more!
I defend MITM because he gives pleasure to some (including you, I would hazard a guess), not because he represents what Lyric should model itself on!
If they extend his slot by even a minute, expect me on this thread spitting with displeasure!0 -
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And I've checked with someone who know's and Mart did interview the promoters and some of the cast of that opera in Wexford by Frank Delius - Romeo and Juliet. And he was at it. And he played some of it on the Show. Sorry to disappoint your fantasies with facts.
Still think you're 'friend' might be wrong there, mate. Although he was there, he was probably wearing his opera knowledge as lightly as ever.
It was broadcast on Lyric as you might expect, but someone with knowledge and credibility, like Bernard Clarke took us through it.
Your 'friend of a friend' Whelan was probably asking his usual shyte questions "isn't Wexford lovely?" etc, ensuring his place in the freebie Champagne bar on opening night.
His interest probably wanes badly after that.0 -
Still think you're 'friend' might be wrong there, mate. Although he was there, he was probably wearing his opera knowledge as lightly as ever.
It was broadcast on Lyric as you might expect, but someone with knowledge and credibility, like Bernard Clarke took us through it.
Your 'friend of a friend' Whelan was probably asking his usual shyte questions "isn't Wexford lovely?" etc, ensuring his place in the freebie Champagne bar on opening night.
His interest probably wanes badly after that.
Ah, I see now that you were in good faith. Sorry.
Marty didn't present the opera in the evening (I imagine), but he had the promoters and cast in studio for a chat on one of the days. To give a boost to the Wexford Opera Festival among ordinary people. I think that's the confusion.
And he was very good getting the banter going with them and putting them at ease even the foreign ones both on air and in the production area. It's his training to make everyone feel special. And you don't get that with the toffee nosed presenters of full operas who just don't have the humane touch.0 -
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