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Warranties at risk

  • 25-08-2010 11:00pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭


    Havent seen any reference to this article so far so apologies in advance if I have missed a thread mentioning it anywhere.


    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2010/0825/1224277525167.html


    THE RECESSION has encouraged car manufacturers to take a tougher position with motorists seeking to have work done under the terms of their car’s warranty, industry sources have confirmed.

    More and more companies are insisting that unless a car has been serviced and maintained exactly to the required manufacturer’s standards, warranty claims will be rejected.

    “These claims are about money and costs are being slashed throughout the industry. We cannot sustain claims when people have sought what they think is cheaper servicing or parts – outside the dealer network – and then come back to us when it does not work. Also, if the car is out of warranty then you are most likely out of luck”, one senior car company executive said this week. Apart from warranty terms, car companies have traditionally allowed for goodwill gestures in order to maintain customer loyalty. However, the terms of goodwill arrangements have become much tighter in recent months.

    “If a dealer wants to do something for a customer with a genuine problem that is one thing but expecting the distributor to fork out for that work every time is not really on”, said the same source.

    One unfortunate customer with a two year-old car was recently refused warranty cover when the engine suffered “catastrophic failure” (i.e.: it blew up) because the car had not been serviced since it was bought. The owner apparently assumed the two year time interval for servicing covered such a claim but did not consider the mileage clause. Whichever is reached first is the main criterion for a claim. The owner is now facing a bill of over €7,000.

    For legal reasons and in order to maintain customer loyalty, many companies are reluctant to discuss how they treat claims or even if they get many. However, since the recession it has become evident that more and more people are avoiding main dealers and opting for what they perceive as cheaper outlets or ignoring servicing completely.

    Mazda Motor Ireland says it has noticed an increasing number of warranty claims where the car has “not been serviced by an approved Mazda dealer, according to the servicing schedule and, in particular, where incorrect oil has been used, causing damage to the engine. In times like this, the tendency can be to take short cuts but this can lead to serious and more costly problems in the future”, said a Mazda spokesman.

    BMW in Ireland makes the same argument. “We have noticed a rise in the numbers of small outlets offering what they say is BMW servicing for €75 or so. In many cases they can make things worse and they are certainly not up to the dealer standard,” says a company spokesman.

    BMW’s after sales director, Paul Murray, says non synthetic oil has, in some cases, been used during such services. “That has implications for fuel economy and the life of the engine.”

    While BMW says every warranty case is taken on an individual basis, Paul Murray says the company will always favour those who have stuck with the dealer network for their servicing requirements. “We reward people who remain with the dealer. Anyone who does not, will not enjoy the full extent of our goodwill,” he says.

    “To be perfectly honest, anyone who comes to me with a problem after they have gone off for cheaper work and it has all gone wrong will be getting pretty short shrift. We have invested too much and we are losing too much to be in the friendly goodwill game.”


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Must have been a quiet news day.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 370 ✭✭bongi69


    Well I don't see any problem. If I buy a TV and it says in the manual not to clean it with bleach, and I do and another problem develops, the manufacturer can refuse the warranty as I did not follow the instructions.
    Further, if I went out and spent all that money on a new car I'd certainly be looking after it.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That bit about the engine blowing up after two years seems a poorly rehashed version of the inicident that was on here recently about the Megane, I wonder does Donal Byrne perouse boards.ie ? Fair waste of newspaper space that article is, utter sh1te really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    Article could be shortened to "customers void warranties and want work done for free when warranty has lapsed; dealers rightly tell them to p**s off"! Its hardly a shocking news story. Im not even sure what point they are trying to make, its not like they are painting the dealers in a bad light.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Merch


    RoverJames wrote: »
    That bit about the engine blowing up after two years seems a poorly rehashed version of the inicident that was on here recently about the Megane, I wonder does Donal Byrne perouse boards.ie ? Fair waste of newspaper space that article is, utter sh1te really.


    Thats exactly what I was thinking, even down to it being 7k or so?? but didnt they say renault was sorting them out???


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Merch wrote: »
    Thats exactly what I was thinking, even down to it being 7k or so?? but didnt they say renault was sorting them out???

    Yep, that's why I put poorly rehashed :D
    If you are reading this Donal, poor poor show ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Yep, that's why I put poorly rehashed :D
    If you are reading this Donal, poor poor show ;)

    "car breaks down after 2 year + of not having the bonnet open and dealer/manufacturer is covering the cost" doesnt really fit in with the type of article being written though. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,684 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    He seems to be trying to put out the message that you must go to the dealer for service work. Terrible article


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