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Monkey Business · 24-08-2010 12:19pm #1

Hi,

Looking for some information for the bf. He's thinking of getting a new car. He's been looking at Colts. Are these reliable cars? He has about 2k to spend only.

I know Colts are only 1.3 and he's currently driving a 1.2 Fiat Punto would you expect the insurance to jump massively?

He'd want to buy from a dealer so would a dealer take his current Punto in as a trade in? It's 1998, in good nick and only has 50K on the clock. How much would he be looking at for this off the price of a second hand Colt?

Thanks,

Monkey

Anan1 · 24-08-2010 12:26pm

1. Colts are pretty reliable, assuming they've been cared for.

2. That depends on him and the ins co - best call them/ring around to confirm

3. They will take the Punto, how much they'll give for it depends largely on how the Colt is priced.

Personally, i'd buy and sell the Punto privately. It's a lot cheaper, and safer too IMO.

djimi · 24-08-2010 12:28pm

Monkey Business wrote: »

I know Colts are only 1.3 and he's currently driving a 1.2 Fiat Punto would you expect the insurance to jump massively?

If its a JDM import (Japanese) then he might end up paying more on the insurance. If its a Irish model then he should be alright; maybe a slight increase but nothing too dramatic I shouldnt think. Only way to know for sure tho is to call the insurance company before he buys!

Monkey Business · 24-08-2010 12:28pm

Anan1 wrote: »

1. Colts are pretty reliable, assuming they've been cared for.

2. That depends on him and the ins co - best call them/ring around to confirm

3. They will take the Punto, how much they'll give for it depends largely on how the Colt is priced.

Personally, i'd buy and sell the Punto privately. It's a lot cheaper, and safer too IMO.

Thanks Anan for the reply. I'll tell him to ring up the insurance co.

Just out of curiosity why would it be safer to sell privately?

Monkey Business · 24-08-2010 12:29pm

djimi wrote: »

If its a JDM import (Japanese) then he might end up paying more on the insurance. If its a Irish model then he should be alright; maybe a slight increase but nothing too dramatic I shouldnt think. Only way to know for sure tho is to call the insurance company before he buys!

Think he's just looking at the Irish model. Will tell him to keep that in mind thanks

Max Power1 · 24-08-2010 12:30pm

Definitly sell the punto privately. A dealer wont give you anything for it (well they will - but its the same discount that they would give a cash buyer)

Anan1 · 24-08-2010 12:31pm

Monkey Business wrote: »

Just out of curiosity why would it be safer to sell privately?

I meant safer to buy privately! You get to meet the previous owner, you pay less, and the car is less likely to have bodges to temporarily hide faults. You'll also get more for your own car privately, and will pay less for the car you buy.

Monkey Business · 24-08-2010 12:36pm

Anan1 wrote: »

I meant safer to buy privately! You get to meet the previous owner, you pay less, and the car is less likely to have bodges to temporarily hide faults. You'll also get more for your own car privately, and will pay less for the car you buy.

Thanks for the advice. I always thought it was safer to buy from a dealership though? With a private buyer you have no comeback if it's a lemon.

djimi · 24-08-2010 12:39pm

It depends on the car, but for a €2000 car if you get it checked out properly by a mechanic and it has a decent service history, then its worth the risk considering the money youll probably save on the car and make by selling your old car privately.

Gurgle · 24-08-2010 12:50pm

Monkey Business wrote: »

I always thought it was safer to buy from a dealership though?

Thats what they want you to think.
With €2k, you're not going to get much of a warranty, maybe 3 months, and it won't cover 90% of the things that are likely to go wrong.

Monkey Business wrote: »

With a private buyer you have no comeback if it's a lemon.

Don't buy a lemon.
- Or -
Buy a carefully selected lemon at enough of a discount that you have money left in your budget to get it fixed.

Monkey Business · 29-08-2010 3:56pm

Hi guys,

After thinking and looking around I'm planning on viewing a car this week. The car in question is this one. Seems a good price and low mileage. Anyone have dealings with this crowd?

Also would do you think I'd be able to haggle on the price? Also thinking of just offering my current car as a trade in to save hassle. How much would I be looking at paying if I could haggle and trade my own car in against it?

Sorry if these seem like silly questions I have no knowledge in this area.

Max Power1 · 29-08-2010 4:35pm

Looks like a fair-ish price IMO, especially with the tax & NCT done.

I'd only expect a couple of hundred off at best, but not if trading in.

Monkey Business · 29-08-2010 7:32pm

Max Power1 wrote: »

Looks like a fair-ish price IMO, especially with the tax & NCT done.

I'd only expect a couple of hundred off at best, but not if trading in.

I don't know what would be best to do though because my current car needs a bit of work. The exhaust needs replacing/welding and the front tyre needs replacing.

Anyone any ideas how much I'd be looking to get for this as a trade in and if I sold privately?

Gurgle · 30-08-2010 10:33am

Monkey Business wrote: »

The car in question is this one. Seems a good price and low mileage.

Get a Cartell report, 41000 miles in 8 years sounds a little low to be believable.

30-08-2010 11:54am

Monkey Business wrote: »

With a private buyer you have no comeback if it's a lemon.

Buy a car for €2000 off a dealer and you're in the same boat really unless the gearbox or engine falls out of it. Dealers can sell total heaps of sh1te quite easily to be honest. Many of them have enough neck for many heads and are experts as ripping people off, they can spot green folks miles off too so buyer beware. Many of them are no dount quite decent and honest too no doubt.

30-08-2010 11:55am

Gurgle wrote: »

Get a Cartell report, 41000 miles in 8 years sounds a little low to be believable.

My Dad has a 1999 Hyundai Accent from new, 31000 miles and very little service history

Max Power1 · 30-08-2010 12:25pm

RoverJames wrote: »

My Dad has a 1999 Hyundai Accent from new, 31000 miles and very little service history

+1
I was about to make a similar point.

Small cars like RoverJames' post above, or the one the OP linked to , are more likely to be used as second cars and have lower mileage.

Its not the lower mileage that I would be suspicios of; with low mileage you would need to make sure that the car was serviced annually.

Eoin · 30-08-2010 12:48pm

Gurgle wrote: »

Get a Cartell report, 41000 miles in 8 years sounds a little low to be believable.

As the others have said, it isn't really unbelievably low. It's a rough average of 5,000 per year / 13 miles per day, which, in an urban environment (let alone a second family car), is pretty believable.

Monkey Business · 04-09-2010 9:54am

Saw another car I was interested in. Price seems quite low compared to other similar ones.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mitsubishi/Colt/1.3-GL-!/201035199387660/advert?channel=CARS

Berty · 04-09-2010 9:55am

Those pictures were taken in the dark slightly. There are some dents on the bodywork.

bazz26 · 04-09-2010 2:16pm

Those alloy wheels are manky imo and the dents could indicate that it was owned by some young lad who could have drove the nuts out of it.

This looks alot tidier but would not pay that price for it though, it's 10 years old after all:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201034199325332

OP would you consider a Ford Puma? This one looks clean:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201034199279138

Esel · 05-09-2010 2:56am

bazz26 wrote: »

OP would you consider a Ford Puma? This one looks clean:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201034199279138

"1 MONTH - 1000 MILE WARRANTY" Don't they have to give a minimum 3 month warranty?

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