Iwebkit for making a webtext program

jumbone · 23-08-2010 10:51pm #1

I want to use my webtexts on my phone but i don't like the sound of ads in eirtext and i dont feel like paying for pro.

I could use cabbage in safari but I would like to use an app instead as the web interface is a bit basic.

If I build a design that looks like the iphone UI (i have reasonable html/css/photoshop) and integrate this form (with absolute URLs for scripts on cabbagetexter.com and the number and password filled in [the red bits] )

Cabbage web interface source wrote:

<body><form action=http://cabbagetexter.com/web/d.php method=get>
<input type=hidden name=u value=number>
<input type=hidden name=p value=password>
<input type=hidden name=s value=v>
<br>To<br><input type=text name=d><br>
<textarea name=m rows=5 cols=20></textarea>
<input type=submit value=Send><br><a href=http://cabbagetexter.com/web/admin.php?u=number&p=password&s=v>Account options</a><br>

Could I store this page locally on the phone (don't want the page with the password in the URL to be on the open internet), launch it like an app and use it for my webtexts?

kjl · 23-08-2010 11:32pm

Is there really a need for this
No
Stop this
There is another solution
All will be revieled to the smart few
Look for clues
Look for an answer
Obviously there is a better solution
Until then, you will just have to make do with ads
So there

jumbone · 24-08-2010 12:35am

kjl wrote: »

Is there really a need for this
No
Stop this
There is another solution
All will be revieled to the smart few
Look for clues
Look for an answer
Obviously there is a better solution
Until then, you will just have to make do with ads
So there

??

I'm not interested in warezed apps for this if thats the solution the smart few have. The author of Eirtext JELLYSMS has mentioned on this board that he monitors piracy and I don't wouldn't want to use a cracked app to send my vodafone login details in plaintext through a server belonging to a guy I steal from

(He used to post pirates personal details on his blog)

The main point of this exercise would be to be able to tell people I made an app (albeit a webapp but most wont know the difference :cool:). I also like the idea of having complete control over the interface.

I havent used iwebkit yet so i dont know if i'll even bother with this project - I'm not sure if it can package it as an app file and store the code I'm borrowing from cabbagetexter.com on the phone so that I don't have to publish my login details except to cabbagetexter.com

If I get it working, I would knock together a few skins and a generator to allow anybody to make their own version of the code above & combine it with the css i write to make it pretty and hopefully package in a convenient format, I think this would be popular enough... of course this would all have to be with sam vimes (the cabbage dev)'s approval

Blazer · 24-08-2010 7:19am

jesus man,..it's €2.79 or something for eirtext pro isn't it?
Are you seriously gonna tell me that you're looking for a way to avoid paying for this? imo it's well worth the money

vinnycoyne · 24-08-2010 8:43am

I don't store anyone's login details - pirate or not.

fbradyirl · 24-08-2010 9:32am

jumbone wrote: »

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I'm not interested in warezed apps for this if thats the solution the smart few have. The author of Eirtext/Eirtext Pro has mentioned on this board that he monitors piracy and I don't want to use a cracked app to send my vodafone login details in plaintext through a server belonging to a guy I steal from

The main point of this exercise would be to be able to tell people I made an app (albeit a webapp but most wont know the difference :cool:). I also like the idea of having complete control over the interface.

I havent used iwebkit yet so i dont know if i'll even bother with this project - I'm not sure if it can package it as an app file and store the code I'm borrowing from cabbagetexter.com on the phone so that I don't have to publish my login details except to cabbagetexter.com

If I get it working, I would knock together a few skins and a generator to allow anybody to make their own version of the code above & combine it with the css i write to make it pretty and hopefully package in a convenient format, I think this would be popular enough... of course this would all have to be with sam vimes (the cabbage dev)'s approval

Why stop there? Why don't you build your own mobile network, so that way you could give yourself free texts AND calls no matter what and you can steal every app that you like!

OMG. Can't believe I didn't think of this before!! Genius!

guil · 24-08-2010 9:41am

fbradyirl wrote: »

Why stop there? Why don't you build your own mobile network, so that way you could give yourself free texts AND calls no matter what and you can steal every app that you like!

OMG. Can't believe I didn't think of this before!! Genius!

why the hissy fit, read the rest of the post and stop throwing ur toys out of the pram, he said with the devs permission

fbradyirl · 24-08-2010 9:43am

I don't like people who steal apps that's why.

guil · 24-08-2010 9:46am

fbradyirl wrote: »

I don't like people who steal apps that's why.

how on earth is he stealing it if he's gonna seek the devs permission
sure just hang him now before he even asks

fbradyirl · 24-08-2010 9:49am

I'm not talking about Cabbage. I'm talking about his earlier comment!

jumbone wrote: »

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....and I don't want to use a cracked app to send my vodafone login details in plaintext through a server belonging to a guy I steal from

guil · 24-08-2010 10:17am

he said he doesnt want to use it so whats the problem

fbradyirl · 24-08-2010 10:21am

He's writing an app from scratch to avoid paying for an app called Eirtext Pro, that he would have pirated if it weren't for his misconception that the developer (Vinny) was somehow storing his details on his server and he might be caught pirating it.

That would be the gist of it.

Stuxnet · 24-08-2010 10:38am

kjl wrote: »

Is there really a need for this
No
Stop this
There is another solution
All will be revieled to the smart few
Look for clues
Look for an answer
Obviously there is a better solution
Until then, you will just have to make do with ads
So there

lol...surprised at you...arent you always banging on you do ip dev ?

i see your sekret codez

jumbone · 24-08-2010 1:23pm

jumbone wrote: »

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I'm not interested in warezed apps for this if thats the solution the smart few have. The author of Eirtext/Eirtext Pro has mentioned on this board that he monitors piracy and I don't want to use a cracked app to send my vodafone login details in plaintext through a server belonging to a guy I steal from

Apologies to vinnycoyne, I meant fbradyirl the developer of Jellysms.

fbradyirl wrote: »

My code isn't for stopping it. It's for detecting when the app is being run illegally. In this case, I turn the app into a 'Lite' version with adverts etc as I've said previously.

fbradyirl wrote: »

FYI, if you are thinking of pirating apps, just remember that it is extremely easy for developers to detect this and they could take any passwords, or private info you use in the app very easily.

So I would think twice about going near these illegal free apps...

edit: I see where you deleted your blog entry of pirate users phonenumbers and device ids

fbradyirl wrote: »

I don't like people who steal apps that's why.

Fbradyirl, please tell me what I would be stealing?

fbradyirl · 24-08-2010 1:32pm

jumbone wrote: »

edit: I see where you deleted your blog entry of pirate users phonenumbers and device ids

Really? Why were you looking? Were you afraid your details might show up?

BTW, I didn't delete it. I just made it private so it's invite only... http://twitter.com/jellysmspirates

Sam Vimes · 24-08-2010 1:39pm

But aaaanyway

If you want to use my API you'd be better off using the main script rather than the web based one. Have your app interface with:

http://cabbagetexter.com/send.php?u=PHONE_NUMBER&p=PASSWORD&s=v&d=RECIPIENT_NUMBER&m=MESSAGE

for the s= parameter its v for vodafone, o for o2, m for meteor, t for three and e for eircom.

Or you can get the scripts yourself here: http://cabbagetexter.com/source.php and put them on your own website.

The benefit of doing the processing server side is that it keeps data transfer down, it just makes the request and gets back the number of message the user has left but then of course the login details are sent through the server.

Vinny or fradyirl, how much data do Eirtext and JellySMS transfer when sending a text do you know? Are they suitable for use without a data package and abroad? I was looking into a way of making the requests without getting the whole few 100kb worth of HTML response but I didn't get too far with J2ME. Did you find a way to do it?

fbradyirl · 24-08-2010 1:43pm

Sam Vimes wrote: »

how much data do Eirtext and JellySMS transfer when sending a text do you know? Are they suitable for use without a data package and abroad? I was looking into a way of making the requests without getting the whole few 100kb worth of HTML response but I didn't get too far with J2ME. Did you find a way to do it?

O2 requests are fairly large as their site is a bit of a pig. Three.ie is like a blip in comparision (and thus way faster). I'm not sure about the rest I haven't really measured to be honest.

Sam Vimes · 24-08-2010 1:58pm

fbradyirl wrote: »

O2 requests are fairly large as their site is a bit of a pig. Three.ie is like a blip in comparision (and thus way faster). I'm not sure about the rest I haven't really measured to be honest.

Yeah three is very basic. It's not even done through https afair. So the app does make normal requests and get the entire page back after each request, so each text uses about 100KB or more?

jumbone · 24-08-2010 2:03pm

fbradyirl wrote: »

Really? Why were you looking? Were you afraid your details might show up?

BTW, I didn't delete it. I just made it private so it's invite only... http://twitter.com/jellysmspirates

Dude,

I am only getting an iPhone tomorrow and look forward to tinkering with it. I made this thrad to see if people thought my idea would work.

While I was saving for the phone I used to read this board for ideas of what apps and accessories are good etc.. and read about your blog in the "do you pirate apps" thread. I was interested as I was sure it would be illegal under data protection legislation so it stuck with me to an extent (obviously not as well as i thought seeing as i accused the wrong man).

How exactly would I confuse jellysms and eirtext if i was a user of one or other i don't really know. I used cabbage mobile by sam vimes on my previous phone which supported java apps and i came up with this idea when i found out there was no free webtext avalable except for the cabbage web interface. Because the interface is for all phones, it is quite basic so i thought I would spruce it up as both a personal project and to give something back to the cabbage community as a thank you for a free app.

fbradyirl · 24-08-2010 2:05pm

Fair enough. Best of luck with the project.

jumbone · 24-08-2010 2:08pm

Sam Vimes wrote: »

Vinny or fradyirl, how much data do Eirtext and JellySMS transfer when sending a text do you know? Are they suitable for use without a data package and abroad? I was looking into a way of making the requests without getting the whole few 100kb worth of HTML response but I didn't get too far with J2ME. Did you find a way to do it?

I have used cabbage mobile abroad on vodafone as their 99c for 50 mb per day deal still applies when roaming. I have now signed up to VF 360 to get 100mb for 39c but i amnt sure if it works abroad.

Obviously at these prices its only worthwhile if you want to send a few texts or if you want to do other things online e.g. check emails/a bit of browsing

Oh and thanks for understanding what I meant by this thread and not calling me cheap/ a thief

Sam Vimes · 24-08-2010 2:15pm

jumbone wrote: »

I have now signed up to VF 360 to get 100mb for 39c but i amnt sure if it works abroad.

It does

Iwebkit for making a webtext program

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