Mass in Running Order

sarenka

Can't get my head around it, what is actually included in MIRO?
We are looking at a motorhome with a payload of 395kg.
It's ok if water, gas, fuel and a driver are included in MIRO, but if not that virtually leaves us with no payload at all!!!
The watertank is 110L, the fuel tank another 100L, 2 bottles of gas around 50kg, 2 of us together are around 135kg...

Can anyone help and clarify?

thanks

peasant

Are you looking at buying a brand new vehicle?

If so, let the manufacturer/dealer confirm in writing what the actual mass of your exact vehicle is ...you wouldn't be the first one to buy a fully equipped camper that can't (legally) take any passengers.

Modern campers have become very heavy and the magical 3500 kg ceiling comes ever closer.

sarenka

It's a second hand motorhome Adria Izola...

peasant

In that case it's easy ...off onto the scales with it with full tanks

sarenka

peasant wrote: »

In that case it's easy ...off onto the scales with it with full tanks

Thanks ;-) I know it's the best and most logical solution, but was just wondering what is really included in MIRO...
I'm most likely wrong but I think a driver should be included as no motorhome could be in any running order without a driver, same with full water tank, fuel tank and at least one bottle of gas!

peasant

I only know of the new german MIRO guideline and that is a shambles.

It contains a standard driver of 75 kg and percentages for everything else ...like 90% fuel, 50% water, some arbitrary figure for gas and tools and some x kilos of food and luggage per theoretical passenger.And then the manufacturer may state that weight on a "typical" model of the range, but once you take the higher spec (with the awning and the microwave etc, etc) the stated weight is way out.

A weighing scales is your only friend really and in case of buying a new model that isn't made yet ...tie the weight down in the contract.

sarenka

peasant wrote: »

I only know of the new german MIRO guideline and that is a shambles.

It contains a standard driver of 75 kg and percentages for everything else ...like 90% fuel, 50% water, some arbitrary figure for gas and tools and some x kilos of food and luggage per theoretical passenger.And then the manufacturer may state that weight on a "typical" model of the range, but once you take the higher spec (with the awning and the microwave etc, etc) the stated weight is way out.

A weighing scales is your only friend really and in case of buying a new model that isn't made yet ...tie the weight down in the contract.

ended up doing C licence.... :-)

moodrater

sarenka wrote: »

ended up doing C licence.... :-)

Cost a few quid I'd say nice to have though.