Dog advice

HukleberryFinn

I'm hoping to buy a new pup..
Only thing is i want 1 That will do for foxes and pheasant.. i've been told that a beagle is the way to go but i'v never heard of them being any good for pheasant..
Does any1 know much about them??

Thanks in advance..

jap gt

german pointer are meant to be very good for both fur and feather

Eddie B

Doubt if a Beagle would be much good for Pheasants!
Some German Pointers will give tongue in cover on fox, but not all!

What about a hound crossed with a gundog!
I know a lot of lads who use Springers crossed with harriers or beagles for hunting covers! Meant to be the bee's knees!

deeksofdoom

Why don't you get yourself a springer spaniel, and forget all this nonsense with fellahs telling you to cross hounds with gundogs..... rubbish. A good springer will hunt cover and if you have trained him on rabbits, they will drive anything out of cover including foxes.

A springer spaniel is am all purpose hunting dog.

Eddie B

deeksofdoom wrote: »

Why don't you get yourself a springer spaniel, and forget all this nonsense with fellahs telling you to cross hounds with gundogs..... rubbish. A good springer will hunt cover and if you have trained him on rabbits, they will drive anything out of cover including foxes.

A springer spaniel is am all purpose hunting dog.

I think its you who's talking through your rear end!
I springer spaniel usually doesn't give toungue when on a fox , and if he's trained up on rabbits, he'll be too busy chasing them while the fox double backs and escapes!

You obviously don't know much about hunting covers for fox, and probably don't participate in the sport!

steelfixerking

a springer terrier cross would be best i would reckon, but it would be very hit and miss but you could be lucky. i have a terrier that i bred and he is a freak he will hunt fox above and below ground ,he will point out pheasants and woodcock and i have shot ducks and he retrieved them. Hard to believe but he is unreal he just knows you thinking, he even works with the cattle dog putting in cows and calves.

ferrete

well i think cross th ounf with the terrier you do get a mighty dog and it is te business will do anythig i have three of them

tfox

Friends of mine have a terrier springer cross and its a demon to hunt foxes, will beat and retrieve all day too But problem with crosses is you can also get a mix of there bad qualities too, nothing guaranteed

My old lurcher is a collieXdeerhound/greyhound. Will hunt and flush foxes, steady after grouse, gr8 on deer, retrieve pheasants no prob, only fault is wen she rises a hare when shooting snipe no amount of shouting, cursing, begging will get her to stop mid flight :mad:

buck hunter

Eddie B wrote: »

I think its you who's talking through your rear end!
I springer spaniel usually doesn't give toungue when on a fox , and if he's trained up on rabbits, he'll be too busy chasing them while the fox double backs and escapes!

You obviously don't know much about hunting covers for fox, and probably don't participate in the sport!

ya right, springers can be great on foxes, iv two springers that bark after foxes and will flush them out of anywhere. also they will retrieve duck off a lake, rise woodcock,pheasants and snipe. so in my opinion there a great dog for birds and foxes....

irish setter

if you wanted to dig a hole you'd use a shovel and if you wanted to drive a nail you'd use a hammer. same rule apply's here i think. you'll have lads that will have dogs that can do both well but they are the lucky ones and trying to breed a dog that will do both is just pure pot luck i'd imagine

Eddie B

buck hunter wrote: »

ya right, springers can be great on foxes, iv two springers that bark after foxes and will flush them out of anywhere. also they will retrieve duck off a lake, rise woodcock,pheasants and snipe. so in my opinion there a great dog for birds and foxes....

Ye you have two springers that bark to foxes, how many lads have springers that don't!!

I think that having a springer that barks to foxes is more luck than breeding, whilst with hounds, terriers and crosses of both its more breeding than luck!
I mean, if i bought a springer in the morning could you guarantee me that it would bark to fox?

round tower huntsman

springer x hound would be best. my auld springer is great on foxes but wont tounge. even when hunting with hounds and terriers he's mute.
but my first springer,bramble, would tounge everything inc. fur and feather.
the hound x springers are very popular with gun packs as the hunt and tounge fox but wont travel like full harriers after one,more biddable.

round tower huntsman

a full beagle is a hound and if he raises a hare or fox he'll be gone away after it possibly for hrs, get a beagle/harrier x springer imo.

buck hunter

Eddie B wrote: »

Ye you have two springers that bark to foxes, how many lads have springers that don't!!

I think that having a springer that barks to foxes is more luck than breeding, whilst with hounds, terriers and crosses of both its more breeding than luck!
I mean, if i bought a springer in the morning could you guarantee me that it would bark to fox?

its also about the breeding in the springers, both my dogs are out of barking parents,but as with every breed of dog there is no guarantee they will do what there parents do...