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Rooting
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18-08-2010 9:48pm#1
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There are lots of good reasons to root - here are mine relating to the desire
1. It's easy
2. it's fun picking new roms and learning about how the system really works
3. Brilliant mods like circle battery, Esspresso bar, Trackpad to wake, and apps like SetCPU* which require root
4. Other apps which expose extra functions when rooted like backup programs that keep links to the link to market, so when you restore they continue to auto update from the market
5. Apps2SD+ which copies apps to SD - not to be confused with the crappy Froyo apps2SD which A) uses the FAT32 partition, so your apps disappear when you mount the phone as a disk drive and
only works with a small subset of apps - i have well over 100 apps and 90MB internal free (and 600 mb ext3 free)
6. Market enabler/Market access - get access to paid apps and free apps which aren't released in Ireland
I honestly can't think of a disadvantage to rooting. It doesn't affect hardware warranty and is completely reversable. Rooted Desires had Froyo before the unrooted ones and if the Hero is anything to go by will continue to get updates through unofficial channels long after htc support stops.
I think the article posted above is a little out of date btw.
*SetCPU has been responsible for a big boost in battery for me - my battery loses less than 1% per hr on standby with wifi (also with juice defender)0 -
EasyBoy1974 wrote: »There are lots of good reasons to root - here are mine relating to the desire
1. It's easy
2. it's fun picking new roms and learning about how the system really works
3. Brilliant mods like circle battery, Esspresso bar, Trackpad to wake, and apps like SetCPU* which require root
4. Other apps which expose extra functions when rooted like backup programs that keep links to the link to market, so when you restore they continue to auto update from the market
5. Apps2SD+ which copies apps to SD - not to be confused with the crappy Froyo apps2SD which A) uses the FAT32 partition, so your apps disappear when you mount the phone as a disk drive and only works with a small subset of apps - i have well over 100 apps and 90MB internal free (and 600 mb ext3 free)
6. Market enabler/Market access - get access to paid apps and free apps which aren't released in Ireland
I honestly can't think of a disadvantage to rooting. It doesn't affect hardware warranty and is completely reversable. Rooted Desires had Froyo before the unrooted ones and if the Hero is anything to go by will continue to get updates through unofficial channels long after htc support stops.
I think the article posted above is a little out of date btw.
*SetCPU has been responsible for a big boost in battery for me - my battery loses less than 1% per hr on standby with wifi (also with juice defender)
This is really the most definitive set of advantages that you are going to get, there is nothing more that I could add. Well thought out and composed easyboy0 -
Although as a complete geek myself, and having rooted previously, there is actually nothing that compelling about rooting.
Minor, small features, nothing major - it's not like XBMC on the original xbox for example, or homebrew on the wii - and for the little extra functionality, you get to put up with a lot more random bugs and errors, force closes and what not.
For me, personally, rooting isn't as great as it's made out to be
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Although as a complete geek myself, and having rooted previously, there is actually nothing that compelling about rooting.
Minor, small features, nothing major - it's not like XBMC on the original xbox for example, or homebrew on the wii - and for the little extra functionality, you get to put up with a lot more random bugs and errors, force closes and what not.
For me, personally, rooting isn't as great as it's made out to be
Would agree with this also0 -
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...you get to put up with a lot more random bugs and errors, force closes and what not.
What ROM did you find this on? I've had a couple of small glitches, mostly to do with bundled apps and easily fixable with adb (another reason to root
) but no force closes. I think most ROMs are as stable as stock now - I've been using LeeDroid since 1.4x and found it very stable.
In fairness, rooting is not for everyone - but I would say that if anyone is root-curious and also wants to learn more about Android internals then they should give it a go - you can always go back to stock ROM 0 -
Keano A Legend wrote: »How can you agree with both opinions
I don't think the posts are in complete disagreement - rooting has benefits, but Android is a great system even unrooted - especially 2.20 -
EasyBoy1974 wrote: »What ROM did you find this on? I've had a couple of small glitches, mostly to do with bundled apps and easily fixable with adb (another reason to root ) but no force closes. I think most ROMs are as stable as stock now - I've been using LeeDroid since 1.4x and found it very stable.
In fairness, rooting is not for everyone - but I would say that if anyone is root-curious and also wants to learn more about Android internals then they should give it a go - you can always go back to stock ROM
I tried out BeHero, "back in the day" for the Hero... it was great when it was loaded fresh, but it buckled fast. I left that phone alone for a while as I had my Desire - difference being night and day on Desire stock and the much better phone overall
Anyway, had a look at the hero again and loaded on FroydVillain - simple enough to get up and running, and initially it was fine. Aside from the kernel clock choices (which I still have no idea what the creator wants people to do with that). Few earth shattering bugs - the time on the clock is just bouncing around, force closes on different apps, random reboots... and the bundled app for it's own updates - doesn't work. So need to wipe this and put on a newer updated version...
Compared to just running stock on Desire, where the only real problems come from random Meteor signal drops and apps that you introduce yourself - it's really smooth. But I think not wanting to bundle a zillion apps helps me here..
Would you be able to recommend a stable froyo rom for the hero? I'm not against trying again - I don't need any crazy advanced features, stability is more important0 -
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conor.hogan.2 wrote: »Do you like the version of Android your own now?
Do you find it limiting in any way?
If you answered yes and then no to these two questions then you don't need to root it.
People can give you reasons as why to root - but if you dont know or dont have a problem as is then its fairly arbitrary and not of much use.
Or read this - http://lifehacker.com/5342237/five-great-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone and decide.
This is exactly what i wanted, good advice too, cheers 0 -
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