Heating Overhaul

OnLooker

Hi,

I currently live in a 1970's 3 bed semi-detached house. We are currently looking into several improvements in the house. Insulating the external walls along with new windows along with moving the old oil boiler out of the house as this is quite dangerous in the house.

We are also thinking about over hauling the heating system when we move it. We are looking at a High efficiency grant vortex oil boiler. How much should a new oil boiler cost to install? We have been quoted €1050 for the boiler (less €700 if we go with the grant scheme). How much should it cost to install the boiler, labour wise?

Also, what is the best way to plumb the new pipes from outside the house in the new boiler house? Underground, insulated pipes?

The father in law pointed out that the pipes are quite old, rubber (microbore)but not great? They aren't copper and as a result will loss quite a lot of heat.

Has anyone got any ideas how it would cost to install the copper piping or the best type? We are very much in the R&D process of our upgrade.

yoshytoshy

OnLooker wrote: »

Hi,

I currently live in a 1970's 3 bed semi-detached house. We are currently looking into several improvements in the house. Insulating the external walls along with new windows along with moving the old oil boiler out of the house as this is quite dangerous in the house.

We are also thinking about over hauling the heating system when we move it. We are looking at a High efficiency grant vortex oil boiler. How much should a new oil boiler cost to install? We have been quoted €1050 for the boiler (less €700 if we go with the grant scheme). How much should it cost to install the boiler, labour wise?

Also, what is the best way to plumb the new pipes from outside the house in the new boiler house? Underground, insulated pipes?

The father in law pointed out that the pipes are quite old, rubber (microbore)but not great? They aren't copper and as a result will loss quite a lot of heat.

Has anyone got any ideas how it would cost to install the copper piping or the best type? We are very much in the R&D process of our upgrade.

The grant consists of 200 off the cost of the boiler installation and 500 off the cost of controls.

You call only get this grant if the work is done by a seai registered installer

OnLooker

yoshytoshy wrote: »

The grant of consists of 200 off the cost of the boiler installation and 500 off the cost of controls.

You call only get this grant if the work is done by a seai registered installer

Yeah, I have registered contractors in quoting for the work. I will be upgrading the boiler and getting new heating controls.

To fully utilise the new controls should I replace the current piping which is 30 yrs old and wouldn't enable different zone heating etc .... Any of idea of the cost to do such a job?

yoshytoshy

It all depends on what way your current system is done really.
Done a job like your a few weeks back out in blanchardstown.

Is your boiler under the stairs or in the kitchen ?

OnLooker

yoshytoshy wrote: »

It all depends on what way your current system is done really.
Done a job like your a few weeks back out in blanchardstown.

Is your boiler under the stairs or in the kitchen ?

In the kitchen. A definite health risk!

Any idea on the cost of an overhaul of the piping?

looksee

I've said this in another thread or six, so apologies to anyone who has already read it. Yes, definitely get rid of the microbore. We have just had the exact same job done. 4bed 1970 semi with two extra rooms downstairs. New grant boiler - moved outside but no building needed, 3 zone controls, new piping throughout (insulated), seven additional rads (12 in total), insulated cylinder. About 4,700 including lifting and replacing floors (no concrete), including 700 grant on boiler.

Edit: new piping is not copper.

yoshytoshy

OnLooker wrote: »

In the kitchen. A definite health risk!

Any idea on the cost of an overhaul of the piping?

Hard to say ,I definetly wouldn't go replacing all the pipe until you know it's no good. I usually do a job based on the pipework involved to suit the wiring that needs to be done.

Theres a difference in piping/wiring having just hot water & heating controls and
Upstairs - downstairs & water control

Get prices for both ,having seperate heating controls for upstairs and downstairs is the buisness. There are wireless programmable thermostats available for this aswell ,so you don't need to worry about cabling or positioning the stats.

OnLooker

yoshytoshy wrote: »

Hard to say ,I definetly wouldn't go replacing all the pipe until you know it's no good. I usually do a job based on the pipework involved to suit the wiring that needs to be done.

Theres a difference in piping/wiring having just hot water & heating controls and
Upstairs - downstairs & water control

Get prices for both ,having seperate heating controls for upstairs and downstairs is the buisness. There are wireless programmable thermostats available for this aswell ,so you don't need to worry about cabling or positioning the stats.

Yeah it doesn't look like I will be able to have seperate zones the way the piping is currently but I am getting it checked out this week.

Micky Dolenz

Don't forget a BER cert is mandatory for applications after the end of June. They allow a further €100 for this.

OnLooker

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Don't forget a BER cert is mandatory for applications after the end of June. They allow a further €100 for this.

Yeah thats sorted.

JohnnieK

It's not a health risk to have the boiler in the kitchen! just thought I'd add that.