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Xinkai

chordtype wrote: »

I know we have a Triple H bashing thread but surely it's time for a Cena one?

Ask and it shall be done.

Cena is just a selfish prick who's ego is as big as bigshow's ****.

After the Nexus affair he will just bury more talents until he's the longest reigning WWE champion for 1 million days.

Anyways, Bash away

Diabhal Beag

It isn't entirely his fault. He is a money-making machine. WWE is a business with the aim of making money. He is a cash-cow.

I know we all want new top guys but we got them this year. New talent has risen to the top and they still kept Cena strong.

Rjd2

Xinkai wrote: »

Ask and it shall be done.

Cena is just a selfish prick who's ego is as big as bigshow's ****.

After the Nexus affair he will just bury more talents until he's the longest reigning WWE champion for 1 million days.

Anyways, Bash away

So who has he buried over the years?

DOC09UNAM

When this movie is out of the cinema im sure theyll take him down a peg or two, maybe turn him heel, and then just before his next one comes out, he'll be back up there fairly quickly!!

Cash cow he is, cash cow indeed.

chordtype

I think this should be changed to 'THE WAY JOHN CENA IS BOOKED BASHING THREAD'.

jimmy jailbreak

I remember at first they were trying to sell him as a pure wrestler. That didn't work out because Cena was sh*t. So they turned him into the doctor of thuganomics. And the rest is tainted history.

Mr.Nice Guy

He's such a selfish prick that he publicly said on Twitter that he felt bad for Bryan on being fired and urged fans to sign a petittion to have him reinstated. A selfish prick who publicly praised Evan Bourne and tried to get him a bigger push from the company.

Seeing as pretty much no one in the industry regards him as a selfish prick maybe the real truth is that he's the top star by some distance and simply doing the best with the crap they are coming up with for him.

Machismo Fan

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Seeing as pretty much no one in the industry regards him as a selfish prick maybe the real truth is that he's the top star by some distance and simply doing the best with the crap they are coming up with for him.

My problem is that Cena is in a position now where he can say no without consequence and he doesn't.

Rjd2

Machismo Fan wrote: »

My problem is that Cena is in a position now where he can say no without consequence and he doesn't.

Why should he?

Machismo Fan

Rjd2 wrote: »

Why should he?

Because he should know that him losing in certain situations is better for business and he knows it won't hurt him.

chordtype

Again I'll throw it out there that this should be the way Cena is booked bashing thread and not attacks on John Cena the man.

Rjd2

Machismo Fan wrote: »

Because he should know that him losing in certain situations is better for business and he knows it won't hurt him.

He does lose though and quite often for the top guy in the company.
Would you prefer if he was booked like Evan Bourne or something?

Mr.Nice Guy

Machismo Fan wrote: »

My problem is that Cena is in a position now where he can say no without consequence and he doesn't.

I see your point but I don't think it's in his nature to do that. He'd probably regard that as egotistical and unprofessional.

Even if he did try and get in Vince's ear it doesn't alter the fact that what went down tonight was WWE Creative's doing and Cena simply did as told. It's amazing that fans don't realise this. A Vince bashing thread would be more appropriate as everything that occurred tonight was his call. Who knows, Cena could have even suggested a heel turn for himself and Vince vetoed the idea. We don't know for sure but what we do know is that Vince certainly had the final say and if the show failed then he ought to get the criticism, not Cena.

Machismo Fan

Rjd2 wrote: »

He does lose though and quite often for the top guy in the company.
Would you prefer if he was booked like Evan Bourne or something?

Note I said certain situations not jobbed out every week. I accept that it all comes down to an overly safe and unimaginative creative at the end of the day but I still think Cena has enough power to say no.

TerryTibbs!

Cena > You

Ridley

Xinkai wrote: »

Cena is just a selfish prick who's ego is as big as bigshow's ****.

According to Val Venis, Big Show ain't that big.

I like Cena. I just don't like it when he's on a microphone during I Quit matches.

cooker3

Nothing against Cena as a person. From what I know he is a pretty classy guy.
But I hate his character and I hate every single 1 of his stupid standard set of moves. I have hated it for nigh on 6 years and oddly enough he is doing exactly the same thing 6 years on.
He was very good as a heel, I hope they do turn him. It could really rejuvenate the character which is oh so badly in need for an overhaul.

gimmick

Title edited as it pretty much gives away the Main Event of Summerslam.

Ill edit it back in a few days.

JP Liz V1

Cena is WWE's biggest star and I for one am glad Team Raw won

SlickRic

there's only one reason to hate Cena.

the way he's booked, and that's not his fault.

if you look into Cena 'the man', you will see anything but a selfish prick, a company man, a man who works harder than anybody, and a man who has the respect of every single person in the WWE locker room.

we should be bashing WWE's writers and bookers, not f*cking Cena.

flahavaj

SlickRic wrote: »

there's only one reason to hate Cena.

the way he's booked, and that's not his fault.

if you look into Cena 'the man', you will see anything but a selfish prick, a company man, a man who works harder than anybody, and a man who has the respect of every single person in the WWE locker room.

we should be bashing WWE's writers and bookers, not f*cking Cena.

BUT HE DOESN'T DO ENOUGH MOOVEZ.

Willie Stroker

I smell envy ... why would nexus go over against the pros . Plus that match made nexus look strong i had no problem with result:cool:

SlickRic

ha, yeah the moves thing makes me laugh every time i hear it.

as if Stone Cold had more than 5 moves himself while in his prime.

let's see...'stomping a mudhole', 'lou thesz press', punching (95% of his offence), and the Stunner.

myself being an adult, Cena's character bothers me too an awful lot of the time, but getting on him for his 'lack of moves' is just lazy.

flahavaj

SlickRic wrote: »

ha, yeah the moves thing makes me laugh every time i hear it.

as if Stone Cold had more than 5 moves himself while in his prime.

let's see...'stomping a mudhole', 'lou thesz press', punching (95% of his offence), and the Stunner.

myself being an adult, Cena's character bothers me too an awful lot of the time, but getting on him for his 'lack of moves' is just lazy.

Stone Cold, Flair, Hart, Hogan, Rock - name me a Main Eventer who doesn't have a moveset they fall back on in the finishing stretch of a match, one that can be easily identified if you watch them as often as we're exposed to Cena?

chordtype

Nothing against Cena as a person, in just about every shoot interview that I've seen there is barely a bad word said against him. However, the way he is being booked as this un-destructable babyface doesn't cut it with me. It's got to the point where nearly all his matches are predictable and obviously this is not a good thing. The best thing that they could do with him is keep him face until the movie is done and dusted and he wins his oscar and then turn him heel.

Rjd2

chordtype wrote: »

Nothing against Cena as a person, in just about every shoot interview that I've seen there is barely a bad word said against him. However, the way he is being booked as this un-destructable babyface doesn't cut it with me. It's got to the point where nearly all his matches are predictable and obviously this is not a good thing. The best thing that they could do with him is keep him face until the movie is done and dusted and he wins his oscar and then turn him heel.

He has lost matches you know, more than Hunter and internet darling Undertaker over the years.

SlickRic

oh, and if i've said it once, i've said it a million times...

i cannot wait for the day Cena turns heel and we all fully realise what a f*cking diamond he is.

Vince135792003

This is just history repeating itself.

When Hulk Hogan was on top you had a minority of hardcore wrestling fans sick to death of him always winning. It was 3 punches, big boot, leg drop and pin for the guts of 7 years. It was predictable and for many boring.......but it made money. The kids loved it.

John Cena is this generations Hulk Hogan and while he does nothing for me, I can see why he's still booked as Superman. I do think we're coming to the end of it though.

SlickRic

Vince135792003 wrote: »

John Cena is this generations Hulk Hogan and while he does nothing for me, I can see why he's still booked as Superman. I do think we're coming to the end of it though.

in fact, i can see Cena's career going a very similar way to Hogan; without the ego. :cool:

he turns heel one day, shockingly, continues to be the industry's biggest star, goes off to make a movie or two, returns, and gets the mother of all pops on his return.

'you don't know what you got til' it's gone' and all that.

we can always reference Royal Rumble '08 for how much the crowd - young, old, smarky, casual - ACTUALLY care about Cena.

Charisteas

Xinkai wrote: »

Ask and it shall be done.

Cena is just a selfish prick who's ego is as big as bigshow's ****.

After the Nexus affair he will just bury more talents until he's the longest reigning WWE champion for 1 million days.

Anyways, Bash away

Cena is not a selfish prick at all by any stretch of the imagination. He's a classy guy who, by the sounds of it, just does what the fed ask him to do with minimum fuss and zero politics.

Cena is the number 1 guy in the WWE, is it really a shocker that he would win most of his matches. The WWE top guy will always win most of their matches, the difference is, that there are plenty of stories out there about Hogan, Austin, Rock refusing to lose certain to certain people, but there are no such stories regarding Cena refusing to job.

In fact in John Cena's last 3 most important matches, he has lost twice to Sheamus on the last two PPV's (MITB and F4W), and lost on his high profile Raw match against Nexus. He's not a superman like some people are claiming.

Last time I checked, Sheamus was the WWE Champion, and judging by last nights outcome of the Sheamus/Orton match, that feud isn't finished yet. Cena isn't even in the title picture at this moment.

Ok, so team WWE beat Nexus last night, but until we have all watched Raw tonight, don't be so sure that the storyline is over yet. I can still see a Cena V Barrett one-on-one match on a PPV sometime this year, and with Cena being the true professional that he is, he wouldn't have any problem putting over a rookie such as Wade Barrett.

sky88

to me cena seems like a great guy the things he does with charities are awesome but i find it really hard to watch anything he does because of his character and the way hes booked. his non selling of moves can just ruin matches for me like one he had with shawn michaels, shawn worked on his leg for the whole match then during his big cena comeback he didnt show any sign of the damage that really annoys me

thebostoncrab

To those asking "Why doesn't John Cena just say "no" and put guys over", I'll answer that with a question, "How do you know he hasn't and got the idea shot down?"

Cena is easily the biggest company man the WWE has. He will always do what they ask of him because, at the end of the day, it's his job.

No while the no-sell at the end of last night really ticked me off, that fall goes onto the writers, not John Cena. Cena has been out spoken about younger guys in the past, such as Evan Bourne and Daniel Bryan (Even going as far as to say publicly he was against the firing), and I'm sure he has no problem with putting guys over.

It seems that Cena gets this treatment because fans decide to pick and choose their flaws without looking at real answers. Yes the STF looks ****ing ****, but Cena is on the road so many days of the year. If he went out and did moves the likes you see in ROH or PWG, he would have become crippled along time ago! He works a safe style because, like it or not, he NEEDS to work a safer style. And he isn't the only one, just watch CM Punks ROH stuff compared to his WWE run and you'll see how much he has tonned it down.

I'm not a massive Cena fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I think alot of the hate towards him is unneeded and because fans find it harder to get pissed off at people they don't see on their TVs every week; the bookers.

Oh, and Cena-Batista was better than 'Taker-Micheals at Wrestlemania this year.

paddyismaddy

Xinkai wrote: »

Ask and it shall be done.

Cena is just a selfish prick who's ego is as big as bigshow's ****.

After the Nexus affair he will just bury more talents until he's the longest reigning WWE champion for 1 million days.

Anyways, Bash away

surely he gets some credit for helping our boyo sheamus get over and also barrett and nexus :rolleyes:

DM_7

thebostoncrab wrote: »

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Shhhh Don't talk sense to Cena Haters, they don't want to know!

Great post man.