Is TARMAC Strong enough for teleporter / trucks useage ?

mikemike

I'm considering putting tarmac down , but wondered is it strong enough for the odd teleporter/truck driving over it every now and again ?

also , someone suggested a cheaper alternative which is slightly greyer in colour (?) , and meant to be stronger and cheaper .. the name of it escapes me at the moment ..

anyone any advice on which would be best ?

thanks .

sinnerboy

For heavy vehicular traffic - even occasional - only use concrete .
Min 150 thick .
( 200 min for every day traffic )

bbam

Asphalt is a much stronger compound than Tarmac, more like what is used on motorways and roads... It's considerably more expensive, about 30% I think.. You could discuss this with a supplier and see if they would guarentee it's strength..

However as advised, well laid concrete would be the surest option...

tinofapples

Looking to get Tarmac on my driveway but just thought I'll be having a Pellet Bulk deliver twice a year over the driveway ......... would that be an issue ?

sydthebeat

tinofapples wrote: »

Looking to get Tarmac on my driveway but just thought I'll be having a Pellet Bulk deliver twice a year over the driveway ......... would that be an issue ?

depends on the substructure, but id safly say yes, it would be an issue...

concrete a much safer option

tinofapples

sydthebeat wrote: »

depends on the substructure, but id safly say yes, it would be an issue...

concrete a much safer option

Substructure has been solid enough up till now under the weight of the lorry but will have to confirm that it won't be an issue with the tarmac.

mickdw

Im surprised by all the warning about tarmac being unfit. IMO, if laid on a well compacted stone base & the correct thickness of tarmac used, there would be no issue with an oil lorry etc every 6 months. Teleporter tyres can be damaging to the surface though.

RedRag

A lot of lorries have travelled over our Tarmac with no problem, maybe if the day is exceptionally warm I would be worried but otherwise not. Tyres such as tractor tyre, digger tyres etc will rip it up though, mainly when steering.

bbam

I worked for a chap, we would have large courier trucks in a few times a week. After 12 years on a hot summers day the truck came in and it was like a ploughed field when he was gone..:eek:
With tarmac there is always the risk of it lifting/tracking in hot weather..

If you will have anything larger than a van on the drive I wouldn't advise tarmac.

Kashkai

We were about to get the driveway tarmacadamed (roughly 270 sq metres) but as we would have an oil lorry and a wood pellet lorry making deliveries during the year, this thread has gotten me worried.

We've been quoted €3,500 - €4,000 for the tar job and I'd be rightly p1ssed if the driveway was wrecked by a delivery lorry after spending that sum of money. As we have 5 kids, I want a smooth surface for bikes etc so gravel is out. Concrete looks awful so whats the alternative???

tinofapples

Prosperous Dave wrote: »

We were about to get the driveway tarmacadamed (roughly 270 sq metres) but as we would have an oil lorry and a wood pellet lorry making deliveries during the year, this thread has gotten me worried.

We've been quoted €3,500 - €4,000 for the tar job and I'd be rightly p1ssed if the driveway was wrecked by a delivery lorry after spending that sum of money. As we have 5 kids, I want a smooth surface for bikes etc so gravel is out. Concrete looks awful so whats the alternative???

You are in the exact same position as myself only no oil delivery and only 1 kid for now. I'm gonna call the Tarmac guy and see what he says, I wonder what weight one of the w/p lorries are ? 12-15 tonnes ?

bbam

I dont know about the pellet lorries but if you talk to the oil company they have trucks fitted out for deliveries where long hose runs are required..

At our last house the oil lorry came in all the time, then when we laid the asphalt he stopped coming in and ran a hose from the road, I didn't ask or anything, maybe a policy of keeping off tarmac.

Kashkai

The guy who delivers our oil is the other extreme, i.e. he has to get as close to the oil tank as possible, i.e. he drives right up to the end of the driveway at the corner of our house and he then only has about 4 metres of hose to run out. Makes it easier for him I guess.

In the past, he's asked us to move our cars out of the driveway onto the road so he can reverse his lorry all the way to the end of the driveway.

bbam

Who's the customer ???

galwaytt

I'm bemused by the advice on the tarmac too, tbh.

Consider, we have two factories: one of which builds........trucks ! The original tarmac did, eventually, after......15 yrs.....give up, on the road in. The yard is, iirc, 150mm concrete.

The new road in was done in asphalt, and we move artics, plant, and all the big stuff, with no problems every day.

Now, in my own house, I've had 50mm of tarmac for.......13 years, and the Calor gas truck comes on to it every.......whatever..........and I've yet to see a crease in it, tbh.

If it was that bad, half the housing estates in Ireland would be cratered.

K_TRICKS

if you do go with asphalt / tarmac as opposed to 150mm concrete then id say nothing bellow 100 mm depth would do,
in two layers, properly compacted and on a good bed of 150mm 804 material and 200mm 6f1 material properly compacted in layers and you cant and wont go wrong.
you need to check your ground suitability as well.
poor ground is no base for any driveway, yard, road etc. poor ground will cause road failure.
remember roads also fail from the bottom up. this can be checked by eye and foot.
proper whacker plates and adequate rollers for the depth of black.
check the tar as it arrives that its not burnt off... brown and matt in colour...
if your ground is of a very high standard you could cut back on the 6f1 (capping),
check for dishing or hollows that will "pond" water as water will destroy your surface over time