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lying on cv

  • 13-08-2010 7:53pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24


    how bad is it to lie on ones CV?

    im making out a proper CV for when i apply for microsoft..
    is it bad if i pretend i worked longer in positions than i did? as in ''i worked there for a year'' rather than 3 months??

    whats the worst that can happen? could they refuse to pay me?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    No, they could fire you for lying to them and this is assuming you got the job in the first place since a quick reference check would find you out (and lying on the CV and being found tends mean automatic disqualification for the job).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Welease


    maryqwerty wrote: »
    how bad is it to lie on ones CV?

    im making out a proper CV for when i apply for microsoft..
    is it bad if i pretend i worked longer in positions than i did? as in ''i worked there for a year'' rather than 3 months??

    whats the worst that can happen? could they refuse to pay me?

    ??

    They could check your references, find out you were lying and decide not to employ you...

    How long ago are we talking about? last job? 10 years ago?

    Why would not working there for a year be a deal breaker? and if it is.. then you may find there are a lot more suitable candidates applying in the current climate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Black Dog


    I've been in the position of receiving/assessing curriculum vitae and interviewing candidates. I would always check on the contents of a cv - telephone referees etc - and a falsification on a cv would immediately put someone out of the competition for any position.

    Also, do realise that if you falsify your cv you are giving your employer the perfect material to sack you at any stage as you would have been appointed on the basis of your experience, for example, and this would have been false.

    Stay straight and honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 maryqwerty


    do employers really check up on references though?

    i also worked with recruitment plus agency where i'd work for maybe 2 weeks and then not for another 6.. and then i might get contacted again..
    how do i explain this?

    and also..

    for people working in part time jobs for say 15hrs who dont go to college etc, what do you tell the employer you do for the rest of the hours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    maryqwerty wrote: »
    do employers really check up on references though?

    i also worked with recruitment plus agency where i'd work for maybe 2 weeks and then not for another 6.. and then i might get contacted again..
    how do i explain this?

    and also..

    for people working in part time jobs for say 15hrs who dont go to college etc, what do you tell the employer you do for the rest of the hours?

    Can you please start being upfront and telling the truth on these threads. People you dont go to college dont get jobs in Mircosoft!
    If you worked for an agency you tell them you worked for an agency, If they want to know what you do for the rest of the hours, you tell them what you do for the rest of the week, why on earth would anyone ask you this anyway?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    Lies on CV... easy as hell to spot. Date inconsistency, etc.

    It's always a slam dunk dismissal if found out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Maryqwerty you are establishing yourself as a person with no common sense at all and a distinct dislike of the truth. You have started threads that have more to do with your imagination than reality.

    You are obviously literate, for heavens sake get your act together, go on a year's further education FETAC course and do something useful with your life.

    Or if you are just having a laugh to see how gullible we are, then I would guess you have just reached the limit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Magenta


    maryqwerty wrote: »
    how bad is it to lie on ones CV?

    im making out a proper CV for when i apply for microsoft..
    is it bad if i pretend i worked longer in positions than i did? as in ''i worked there for a year'' rather than 3 months??
    maryqwerty wrote: »
    i am honestly almost 18 yrs old and i finished school in may. i didnt get enough points to do a degree course so i want to get a job in a shop to help me make some money until i decide what i want.
    i am terrified as i have never had a job in a shop before and i thought ud all make fun of me cos im quite old not to have worked b4.

    maryqwerty I think you need to get a grip on reality. You have never worked before and do not have a degree, do you REALLY think your first job is going to be Microsoft? Do you REALLY think you can put a load of fake jobs on your CV and they won't spot it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭mrgardener


    Black Dog wrote: »
    I've been in the position of receiving/assessing curriculum vitae and interviewing candidates. I would always check on the contents of a cv - telephone referees etc - and a falsification on a cv would immediately put someone out of the competition for any position.

    Also, do realise that if you falsify your cv you are giving your employer the perfect material to sack you at any stage as you would have been appointed on the basis of your experience, for example, and this would have been false.

    Stay straight and honest.

    It is standard business practise that you dont check references until the person has been offered the position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    mrgardener wrote: »
    It is standard business practise that you dont check references until the person has been offered the position.

    Officially yes. Unofficially....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭LimeFruitGum


    maryqwerty wrote: »
    how bad is it to lie on ones CV?

    im making out a proper CV for when i apply for microsoft..
    is it bad if i pretend i worked longer in positions than i did? as in ''i worked there for a year'' rather than 3 months??

    whats the worst that can happen? could they refuse to pay me?

    Microsoft are well-known for their tough hiring process. They will grill and investigate everything you say in the interview and in the resumé. I know a few people, with great qualifications and experience, fail to get through their screening process. Do you really think you will be able to get away with it?

    There is a great difference between 3 months experience and a year's work experience. They'll soon pick up on that in the interview.

    So yeah, they would refuse to hire you, never mind pay you.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,611 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    mrgardener wrote: »
    It is standard business practise that you dont check references until the person has been offered the position.

    Once you put a reference on your CV, you should assume it will be used. Checking references before that interview is not at uncommon.

    Jim


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 392 ✭✭Denimgirl


    Employers do check refrences especially if it is your last job,saying that you can give them 3 refrences yourself like 3 written refrences from other jobs usually they keep them on file and don't bother calling anybody, as you already provided them with them.Good Luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    I've never handed in a CV that has'nt had a makey up job on it. Just make sure you pick one from a company that's gone bust.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    A friend of mine lied on his CV and was found out 2 years into the the job. Instant dismissal.

    If you dont have relevant experience for the job, then do some volunteer work in that field. Nothing says "Self-starter/Self-motivated" than being able to say you did the job for free for a while so you could gain experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Mister men wrote: »
    Just make sure you pick one from a company that's gone bust.:)

    Unless your name is Ivor Callely. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 wheresitat


    Is it wrong to lie on your CV if your just going for some ****ty job that doesn't require loads of experience?

    I mean, yeah it's wrong to lie on your CV if you are applying for a job as a brain surgeon, but what about, lets just say a job in a fast food joint?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭shoegirl


    maryqwerty wrote: »
    how bad is it to lie on ones CV?

    im making out a proper CV for when i apply for microsoft..
    is it bad if i pretend i worked longer in positions than i did? as in ''i worked there for a year'' rather than 3 months??

    whats the worst that can happen? could they refuse to pay me?

    If you apply for a job and your reference doesn't match what you said on your CV - and many nowadays are as limited as just the start and end dates - you will be highlighting your ability to lie. In almost every company an extremely dim view of this would be taken and you will not be hired at all - offers are generally subject to clean references.

    Even if you are not going to give people from those places as reference holders, its pretty obvious if somebody claims they have 4 years experience but in reality only have one - you're skill level is quite likely to be extremely mediocre by the standard of somebody with 4 years experience.

    In short - not to be advised. There are better ways of maximising your experience. Inflating your own skills and experience tends to end up making you look below average which is never to your advantage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    wheresitat wrote: »
    Is it wrong to lie on your CV if your just going for some ****ty job that doesn't require loads of experience?

    I mean, yeah it's wrong to lie on your CV if you are applying for a job as a brain surgeon, but what about, lets just say a job in a fast food joint?

    If a job doesn't need a lot of experience, then it doesn't matter whether you have it or not.

    If you go into a job regarding it as ****ty then you will hate it and not do it well, and end up still not having the experience to take to the next job.

    You don't suddenly blossom into a fully fledged ideal employee when a job worthy of your skills comes along, thats when you need the references from the ****ty jobs. :)


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