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Who voted for the greens??

  • 11-08-2010 07:23PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46


    Alright put your hands up and explain what ye were thinking cause to me it seems like all these guys do is try to find ways to make the cost of living in this country more and more expensive. They want to increase carbon tax, they want to increase electricity bills. Don't they know there is a recession on??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    I've already indicated elsewhere that yes, unfortunately I'm guilty as charged.

    In my defence, however, they lied through their teeth about FF, Shannon & Tara in order to gain my vote. (yes, I know now that I should have known better than to trust a politician).

    And since getting into power they have voted confidence in con-men, shafted us with the NAMA / bank bailout, and taxed existing systems BEFORE providing the green alternative that would make it acceptable to punish those not choosing it, which is an approach that I would wholeheartedly support if they had enough cop-on to implement it.

    So if it's any mitigating factor, I will NEVER, EVER, EVER vote for the parasites again, and will probably throw any visiting canvassers for same into the septic tank so that at least I can get something decent in return for their tax on same.....let them "inspect" it up close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭flutered


    defineatly not guilty, as i had the misfortune to depend on them one time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,639 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I did but I already apologised for it here :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,612 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    .O/

    Sorry. Voted for them as I didn't like the FG candidate, can't stand Labour and they had promised not to go into coalition with FF.

    Won't make the same mistake again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 Metalfan


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    and taxed existing systems BEFORE providing the green alternative that would make it acceptable to punish those not choosing it

    I think you hit the nail on the head with that statement ... fine have your carbon tax etc but give us an alternative! ... If we had nice cheap affordable electric cars then great tax the gas guzzlers ... but we don't! We have to drive internal combustion powered vehicles so forcing us to pay extra as a sort of punishment for not driving a non existant (or massively expensive/impractical alternative) is a joke.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 Metalfan


    cookie monster and sleepy's apologies are noted and accepted on condition that next time they are voting they remember that Eamon Ryan is a dick ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭Poly


    Sleepy wrote: »
    .O/

    Sorry. Voted for them as I didn't like the FG candidate, can't stand Labour and they had promised not to go into coalition with FF.

    Won't make the same mistake again.

    +1, I look forward to the day when Gormless, Ryan, Bolye and co. are fcuked out of office. Spineless b@stards the lot of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,845 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    I think this is the point - hardly anybody did vote for them yet they used the corrupt power hungry outgoing government to get themselves into power in order to implement their fundamentalist agenda.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 Metalfan


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    I think this is the point - hardly anybody did vote for them yet they used the corrupt power hungry outgoing government to get themselves into power in order to implement their fundamentalist agenda.

    yeah according to this guy http://rulehibernia.com/2010/08/carbon-tax-is-bull****/ the greens got a smaller percentage of the popular vote here than the BNP did in the UK. That pretty much sums it up really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭shampon


    Metalfan wrote: »
    Who Voted for the Greens

    Yeeha, whoever voted for the Greens should be taken up against a wall and
    have a hummer drive overthem again and again at top revs in first gear...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Metalfan wrote: »
    We have to drive internal combustion powered vehicles so forcing us to pay extra as a sort of punishment for not driving a non existant (or massively expensive/impractical alternative) is a joke.

    ....not to mention punishing us for not using the non-existent public transport system.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭JohnMearsheimer


    I didn't....I hope their next general election campaign will be about as successful as the Progressive Democrats in 2007.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 Metalfan


    I didn't....I hope their next general election campaign will be about as successful as the Progressive Democrats in 2007.

    I'd imagine it will the Greens will be hammered and FF will get off with only a few scratches the jammy ba$tard$


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,845 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    I happened to be in the same place as Dan Boyle, Eamon Ryan and Trevor Seargent the other day. For the for time ever I felt some empathy with suicide bombers - I'd gladly have sacrificed myself to rid the earth of these 3 retards. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 971 ✭✭✭CoalBucket


    I didn't....I hope their next general election campaign will be about as successful as the Progressive Democrats in 2007.

    And have one of their TDs voted back into government like Harney or completely obliterated to only 3 elected TDs (a 50 % reduction in their case)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    Though I'm not keen on any party, I have a particular hatred for the Greens. They used to be seen as different from the rest but after the 2007 general election, their true colours came out when they broke their word and went into coalition with FF. Being with FF wouldnt' have bothered me, lying about it however, that's a different matter.

    They also took a hit when they badgered FF not to reintroduce the third level fees which is a very necessary step towards improving our education system. Rather than do the right and unpopular thing, they flew the populist flag to buy themselves a few votes off students.

    I actually did vote for them last time round but it was my first general election so I wasn't as informed as I am now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,639 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Metalfan wrote: »
    cookie monster and sleepy's apologies are noted and accepted on condition that next time they are voting they remember that Eamon Ryan is a dick ;)

    indeed, I'm going to vote them -1 next time :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 971 ✭✭✭CoalBucket


    In the UK if you don't get enough votes you lose your election deposit, I hope there is something like that here.

    Or even better if you get less than lets say 500 votes you should be barred from running for election again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    CoalBucket wrote: »
    In the UK if you don't get enough votes you lose your election deposit, I hope there is something like that here.

    Or even better if you get less than lets say 500 votes you should be barred from running for election again

    In this country the reverse might work better........look at all the votes O'Dea & O'Donoghue and Healy-Rae get!!!!


  • Posts: 7,714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I gave them a number two the last time..i wont be voting for them again..im actually pissed off at them for the damage they've done to their legitimate issues..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    I did, and will be voting for them again on the basis of the current record. Indeed, I'll be voting for John Gormley.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Dubstar07


    Haven't voted for them previously, but prior to 2007 would have had sympathies towards the 'green' agenda. Still do mind but I don't think they are the right people to carry the batton.

    Besides I emailed Gormley and Ryan prior to Xmas last year and still waiting on a response!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Scofflaw wrote: »
    I did, and will be voting for them again on the basis of the current record. Indeed, I'll be voting for John Gormley.

    Are you happy with his position on waste disposal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    Dubstar07 wrote: »
    Haven't voted for them previously, but prior to 2007 would have had sympathies towards the 'green' agenda. Still do mind but I don't think they are the right people to carry the batton.

    They've never particularly been the right people to carry the baton, but at least they've been carrying it, which is more than can be said for any other Irish party.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    Are you happy with his position on waste disposal?

    What - uncomfortable? The Ringsend incinerator was never a huge issue for me, but I accept that he campaigned on the basis of objecting to it, so I can hardly cavil at his delaying it with the powers at his disposal.

    Do I think the Greens are completely right on waste disposal more generally? Not entirely - I think they tend to get too focused on opposing particular forms of disposal, even where the numbers don't necessarily stack up.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    I loathe Galway Greens, vermin. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Scofflaw wrote: »
    They've never particularly been the right people to carry the baton, but at least they've been carrying it, which is more than can be said for any other Irish party.

    Unfortunately they're 100% interested in using that baton to beat people with, without offering a single carrot in return.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    I gave the Greens (Deirdre de Burca) a second or third preference in the last election. I wouldn't completely rule out voting for them again (albeit in the distant future), if they're still in existence, hopefully in a new and detoxified form. While they've brought their impending electoral rout upon themselves, I think Irish politics will be poorer without them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Unfortunately they're 100% interested in using that baton to beat people with, without offering a single carrot in return.

    I'm sure they'd love to give you a carrot, but the carrot jar is empty, just now. Even Fianna Fáil don't seem to be handing out carrots, and that's pretty much their raison d'etre.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Scofflaw wrote: »
    I'm sure they'd love to give you a carrot, but the carrot jar is empty, just now. Even Fianna Fáil don't seem to be handing out carrots, and that's pretty much their raison d'etre.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw

    I've news for ya......my carrot jar is empty too, so until the Greens provide alternatives and recognise that yes, I am concientious ALREADY about green issues so no "stick" will change my behaviour, they're not getting a cent more from me.

    Oh - and P.S. There's still plenty carrots for the likes of Callely and Dempsey & Co, so I would suggest they start there and stop voting confidence in the likes of O'Donoghue and O'Dea.....maybe THEN we could take the above comment seriously......"empty" my arse : only for ordinary easy-target people that they can screw every cent out of, but not for their so-called Government partners.


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