Anyone one interested in a weight loss thread?

HardyEustace

Having seen a few recent posts about racing weight, jsut wondered if anyone was interested in a weight loss thread?

As in keep account of weight loss and having a bit of support?

Is one necessary here due to the presence of the nutrition and diet forum?

tunney

HardyEustace wrote: »

Having seen a few recent posts about racing weight, jsut wondered if anyone was interested in a weight loss thread?

As in keep account of weight loss and having a bit of support?

Is one necessary here due to the presence of the nutrition and diet forum?

After lumping on a stone in 5 weeks sure why not.

Gringo78

I'd be interested in people posting about their diet, particularly about what foods are bad, what are good. I was shocked the other evening when I picked up a brown sliced pan in tesco and saw it had more calories per slice than a White sliced pan??? I realised then it wasn't wholemeal just brown.

Also would like any ideas on low calorie snack foods? I drive a lot at the moment and tend to graze. I haven't yet found a good low cal snack food that I can pick away at in the car...any suggestions?

big mce

I think its a good idea. After going from 120kg down to 84kg I'm finding the next few kilo's very difficult to shift. Cut down on all the usual crap and exercising more than ever before but it just won't shift. Interested to hear other peoples experiences.

littlebug

I could do with losing 7- 10lbs. Once i'd lost 2.5 stone I got lazy about food and put nearly half a stone back on. I'm a real grazer esp in the evenings. If I want to do DCM I could do with losing the extra (again:rolleyes:).

mloc123

Gringo78 wrote: »

I'd be interested in people posting about their diet, particularly about what foods are bad, what are good. I was shocked the other evening when I picked up a brown sliced pan in tesco and saw it had more calories per slice than a White sliced pan??? I realised then it wasn't wholemeal just brown.

Also would like any ideas on low calorie snack foods? I drive a lot at the moment and tend to graze. I haven't yet found a good low cal snack food that I can pick away at in the car...any suggestions?

I have read that alot of brown slicepans are pretty much a white slice pan with a small amount of brown flour to colour them... people like the taste as its close to white bread and think they are being 'good' by eating brown bread.

As for whats 'good' and whats 'bad', the fitness forum is quite good but is very geared towards body builders imo. Most good and bad food falls under carbs.


-Cereals(cornflakes,branflakes,rice krispies etc...) check the sugar content per 100g, most of these will be 20% or more. Stick with oats or wheetabix as a treat.
-Breads(white, batch,rolls etc..) I really like bread but it is junk. If you have to, stick to something like mccambridge style.
-Processed foods, most food out of a 'package' or frozen is junk.. rule of thumb is not to eat anything your grandparents wouldn't have.
-Eat loads of fruit and veg. Mind some fruits tho'.... potatoes are not veg :pac:

RubyK

Re. Brown Bread - I find the multi-grain stuff keeps me fuller for longer. I always have a couple of slices before a LSR.

I snack a lot on nuts. Not the best, but not the worst.

I'm a crisp lover (don't shoot me ), but find corn snacks like Snaks or Chickatees much lower in cals than my beloved Tayto cheese & onion, and do the trick when I need a savory fix.

tunney

mloc123 wrote: »

I have read that alot of brown slicepans are pretty much a white slice pan with a small amount of brown flour to colour them... people like the taste as its close to white bread and think they are being 'good' by eating brown bread.

As for whats 'good' and whats 'bad', the fitness forum is quite good but is very geared towards body builders imo. Most good and bad food falls under carbs.


-Cereals(cornflakes,branflakes,rice krispies etc...) check the sugar content per 100g, most of these will be 20% or more. Stick with oats or wheetabix as a treat.
-Breads(white, batch,rolls etc..) I really like bread but it is junk. If you have to, stick to something like mccambridge style.
-Processed foods, most food out of a 'package' or frozen is junk.. rule of thumb is not to eat anything your grandparents wouldn't have.
-Eat loads of fruit and veg. Mind some fruits tho'.... potatoes are not veg :pac:

Add the carb content, the sugar content and then subtract the fibre to get X
Add the protein and fat content to get Y

If X/Y > 2 then its not good to eat (specifically here insulin response and fuel effeciency)

Woddle

I think it's a good idea, so count me in.
We did try it before though and it just kind of fizzeled out
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055676511&highlight=nutrition

Krusty_Clown

tunney wrote: »

Add the carb content, the sugar content and then subtract the fibre to get X
Add the protein and fat content to get Y

If X/Y > 2 then its not good to eat (specifically here insulin response and fuel effeciency)

Interesting. Care to expand on this a little more? Wouldn't the sugar content also be reflected in the carb content? i.e. isn't it usually xx carbs per 100g, of which sugars=yy?

I always looked for marathon foodstuffs that were in a carb to fat ratio of greater than 10/1 or similar (e.g. aim for carb rich foods, like > 68g carbs per 100g, for less than 6g fat or lower). Not scientific, just something I read at some point that stuck with me.

tunney

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Interesting. Care to expand on this a little more? Wouldn't the sugar content also be reflected in the carb content? i.e. isn't it usually xx carbs per 100g, of which sugars=yy?

Yip it is - but to get an accurate reflection of the impact it needs to counted twice.

http://www.xtri.com/features_display.aspx?riIDReport=6529&CAT=21&xref=xx

This only covers a fraction of it really - an overview, an introduction if you will. This covers, in an easy way, how to pick a food with low GI impact. Not the why

shotgunmcos

Ahh this is such a vast topic isn't it and the advice will be plentiful. I'll take it all with a pinch of 0.3g salt and 0.7g sodium until the scientists among you validate...;)

The very first thing is just to understand the nutritional label on the back of the products you shop for. I won't give the definitions - Go and look them up yourself (accelerated learning eh)! G'em on the Nutrition Forum does a sound job of it if you care to have a read.. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055157091

Energy
Protein
Carbs (and how much of it sugars)
Fat (how much of it saturates)
Fibre
Salt
Sodium equivalent
Vitamins
Minerals

Just get a feel for what all of these mean and how they differ in foods. How many ingredients are in it etc.. If you can count 10, 15 or even 20+ ingredients, the liklihood is it aint great and its laced with fat, sugar, salt and preservatives.

A strategy I use without having to have a formula or calculator ready is this.

Everytime I go shopping, for at least 2 of the products on the list, I'll pick up a similar alternative and compare the labels. Generally I pick the one with less sugary carbs and less saturated fat. Then I'll go for the one with less salt and more protein. I don't get roped in by these products that have added vitamins and minerals because if you eat enough fruit and veg you don't need these added to your food!

As for keeping track of weight I'm all for it.

I did 90kg - 83kg with exercise, 83-79kg with consistant training and healthier choices, 79-77kg disciplining the bad habits

This morning I was 77.2kg the lowest I've been in 10 years.
Target for Sept 6 (before I head out to Budapest) is 75.5kg

1.7 kg to go

Its important though not to get too obsessed by it or you will become moody and unbearable. Have a day in the week where you treat yourself.

nomadic

I think portion size and booze would be my 2 biggies. I've been really good with my diet recently but my dinner portions are always way too big.

I'm 74kg now and would like to be 72ish in a few weeks time.

Gringo78

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Just get a feel for what all of these mean and how they differ in foods. How many ingredients are in it etc.. If you can count 10, 15 or even 20+ ingredients, the liklihood is it aint great and its laced with fat, sugar, salt and preservatives.

Also remember ingredients are listed in order of quantity...i.e the most first. So if you see sugar in the first 3 ingredients on the list you know theres lots of it that has been added....not good.

Cheaper processed food generally contains more fat.....compare a cheap pizza to a more expensive one...fat tastes good and is cheap so manufacturer will use more fat, less flour in order to make a cheaper pizza that still tastes good. That said, shouldn't be eating a pizza at all, but if you must....better to go with the healthier one.

Krusty_Clown

Gringo78 wrote: »

That said, shouldn't be eating a pizza at all, but if you must....better to go with the healthier one.

I've been making my own recently, and the only added fat that goes into it is 3-4 tablespoon of olive oil, which makes enough dough to make 4 pizza bases (feeds four people). Healthy alternative for those pizza lovers. Just go easy on the cheese.

Krusty_Clown

tunney wrote: »

Yip it is - but to get an accurate reflection of the impact it needs to counted twice.

http://www.xtri.com/features_display.aspx?riIDReport=6529&CAT=21&xref=xx

The article seems to suggest that the formula is only targeted at snack/recovery foods (between workouts) as their is a greater emphasis on the value of protein and fats and should not be used for general foodstuffs, where:

your food choices should consist of “CORE” choices, namely lean meats, fruits, veggies, nuts, and seeds

By the way Porridge scores a 2.95, and that's before you add any of those nasty ingredients, like honey, dried fruit etc.

shels4ever

Sounds good i've 4 months to get to racing weight so time to put the same focus on the diet that I do on the actually running bit.

tunney

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

The article seems to suggest that the formula is only targeted at snack/recovery foods (between workouts) as their is a greater emphasis on the value of protein and fats and should not be used for general foodstuffs, where:

Yip - snacks, in between meals and the like. Very hard to figure out for brown rice, chicken and veg, etc. Meals would have to figured out differently

But I found it good for choosing snacks i.e. protein bars. Some have a high GI impact some don't.

littlebug

littlebug wrote: »

I could do with losing 7- 10lbs.

and then I went and ate a BLT with chips :rolleyes::o Maybe the public humiliation of saying it out loud will make me stop doing things like that.
I have no friggin' willpower

pete_mcs

big mce wrote: »

I think its a good idea. After going from 120kg down to 84kg I'm finding the next few kilo's very difficult to shift. Cut down on all the usual crap and exercising more than ever before but it just won't shift. Interested to hear other peoples experiences.

I have had a very similar experience. Started exercising last Sept after about 3 years sitting on my arse. Started half marathon training and lost a stone within 1 month, 15 stone 2 lbs down to 14 stone 2 lbs. But it has taken me the past ten months to get down to 13 stone 12lbs. Why is this?
I run about 40 mile a week, and have started cycling, up to 60 mile a week. Rarely eat crap, drink a few beers, but never binge. I think it could be bread, eat about 4 slices of soda bread a day.
Any ideas or suggestions?

RacoonQueen

I'd like to lose about 10 lbs myself but I couldn't really be bothered trying. :pac: Besides, my poor mammy would probably accuse me of being anorexic if I was that tiny.

Woddle

The kids and I made some bars today, I think their healthy enough, what throws doubt my way is that their very tasty

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Oats
Hazel nuts
Raisins
Raspberries
Dark chocolate chip
Coconut oil
water
butter
syrup

banged in the oven for about 20 mins, they so yummy

metamorphosis

@ Woddle - is that the recipe from the crossfit website?

Woddle

ULstudent wrote: »

@ Woddle - is that the recipe from the crossfit website?

With my own twist, transform and all his chat on the fitness forum gave me the munchies

metamorphosis

Woddle wrote: »

With my own twist, transform and all his chat on the fitness forum gave me the munchies

Not sure if you saw this one so il post it here too

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=67325308&postcount=1

Krusty_Clown

ULstudent wrote: »

Not sure if you saw this one so il post it here too

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=67325308&postcount=1

Tasty I'm sure, but low in carbs.

metamorphosis

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Tasty I'm sure, but low in carbs.

ah sure add in a nice bit of dried fruit and that problem is sorted

BeepBeep67

7am on a Sunday and I'd murder a bacon sambo - but I'm going for a run and will have some porridge later instead.

menoscemo

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Tasty I'm sure, but low in carbs.

most diets are great but runners need carbs.

Why An I still awake, I feel the need to reply to every thread I am going mad :eek: fuppping US time

RacoonQueen

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

7am on a Sunday and I'd murder a bacon sambo - but I'm going for a run and will have some porridge later instead.

You can have the bacon sambo when you get back. Protein and carbs. Perfect for recovery. :pac:

crubean

I would be intrested in starting the thread on losing weight.
Like AA .Hi my name is crubean and I am fat.
I am 5'8 in height and weight 116kg.

My pbs when fit and slim about 18 yrs ago
10 ml = 59.59secs
10 km= 33.30 secs
Mar = 3.40mins

Yesterday did a HM (well it turned outto be 14.46mls ) 2.25 mins.

I want to get back close(ish)to what I used to be able to do.
Dont worry I am be realistic on new times I am 38 now.

I have targeted a HM in Waterford in Dec to make my comeback attempt.
So lets get those target weights and times up and to have somthing to aim for.
My wife is going to help me on the weight watchers diet.

pete_mcs

crubean wrote: »

Yesterday did a HM (well it turned outto be 14.46mls ) 2.25 mins.

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Great going crubean, if your able to run 14 1/2 mile then you must have a good fitness level, and some very strong stamina and will power.
Like yourself I would be a "heavy runner", im sure people look at me while im out running and wonder what the hell I must eat!
But I dont eat much crap, or drink much beer, Is it just the make up of certain people that we carry to much weight? I am 37 and have never been slim, but recently its been impossible to shift those extra kgs!
Good luck crubean,

HardyEustace

pete_mcs wrote: »

But I dont eat much crap, or drink much beer, Is it just the make up of certain people that we carry to much weight? I am 37 and have never been slim, but recently its been impossible to shift those extra kgs!
Good luck crubean,

No, certain people aren't "born" fat, it's just their eating habits.

pete_mcs, I've to lose about a stone and a half (gained over the last three years) but it's no mystery why - I've eaten too much and developed a sweet tooth I never had in my twenties.

If you really want to get a realistic view of why you are the weight you, then the best thing is a food diary. I started one and was HORRIFIED at how much crap I was eating and how many calories. It's no wonder I was gaining weight and not losing it.

I used fitday.com to track my food intake but there's a lot that you can use out there. You'd be surprised how the crap and the beer add up.

I recently gave up chocolate for lent which meant I didn't have my daily moro and lost five pounds without even trying.

Anyway, was wondering what kind of format people would like?

A table detailing current and goal weights? Or just the usual format.

Would it be useful to get it stickied?

Can we put our weight in kgs and stones? Because I don't have CLUE of kgs.

Krusty_Clown

crubean wrote: »

My pbs when fit and slim about 18 yrs ago
10 ml = 59.59secs
10 km= 33.30 secs
Mar = 3.40mins

Fantastic PBs crubean, though the marathon time looks like it should be the first one to target! Best of luck with getting back up there. Age isn't a barrier.

pete_mcs

Thanks HardyEustace, a food diary is def something I should try. Its nearly all exercise with me and very little attention to diet. The misses is diabetic, so we dont keep any sweet crap or alcohol in the house, so dont have to worry about them.
I know my big problem is bread, I usually have toast for breakfast and then more bread at lunch, I am going to cut out bread out for a week, and see if that makes any difference.
Thanks again for the advise.

HardyEustace

pete_mcs wrote: »

Thanks HardyEustace, a food diary is def something I should try. Its nearly all exercise with me and very little attention to diet. The misses is diabetic, so we dont keep any sweet crap or alcohol in the house, so dont have to worry about them.
I know my big problem is bread, I usually have toast for breakfast and then more bread at lunch, I am going to cut out bread out for a week, and see if that makes any difference.
Thanks again for the advise.

pete_mcs, I thought the same thing myself "sure as long as I run, I don't need to worry about diet" - NOT TRUE! From spending a bit of time on the fitness forum and the diet and nutrition forum, the one mantra that struck me is "a six pack is made in the kitchen".

While I think that cutting down on bread is a probably a good idea, make sure that you have a viable alternative. One thing I use is a spelt bread mix which I mix with walnuts and blueberries. It's absolutely lovely toasted or just heated up in the microwave. It freezes well so I tend to make up about three loaves, slice them, individually freeze them and then it's just a case of pulling them from teh freezer in teh morning.

Now, i know that fruit is a source of sugar, but equally having the blue berries means that it's moist enough that you don't need to put butter on it.

Also certain things that are marketed as a "healthier" choice aren't necessarily that. For example, someone might think, "right, instead of bread, I'll have a wrap" but a wrap could be full of refined crap as well and is about 230 calories. So it's not actually a better choice even though there's a perception that it is.

Spend a week or two looking up the nutritional facts of all that you eat and you'll be really pleasantly surprised at how much you earn.

I've also recommended Anita Bean's book - food for fitness here a few times. It's a great book.

pete_mcs

Had Porrige today for breakfast, still had the sandwich for lunch, but at least its 1 meal without bread! Every journey begins with a small step!
Done a 9 mile run about an hour after breakfast, and was running for the bathroom half way through it! A well, it may take the stomach a while to get used to it.
Will try the spelt bread if I cant stick to the no bread diet.
Thanks HardyEustace.

crubean

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Fantastic PBs crubean, though the marathon time looks like it should be the first one to target! Best of luck with getting back up there. Age isn't a barrier.

Thanks Krusty for those comments.To be honest i have done all the races 100mts to a marathon to a triathlon last year.all I want is to be competive at my age group FOR 10KM and races and under I know my bones will not take the abuse of the training for a marathon.But i have changed a few things in my diet ,its like trining in general small steps and build itup as you get fitter and it will all fall into place.

crubean

pete_mcs wrote: »

Had Porrige today for breakfast, still had the sandwich for lunch, but at least its 1 meal without bread! Every journey begins with a small step!
Done a 9 mile run about an hour after breakfast, and was running for the bathroom half way through it! A well, it may take the stomach a while to get used to it.
Will try the spelt bread if I cant stick to the no bread diet.
Thanks HardyEustace.

There is my vice aswell BREAD. My wife put on to this bread called Nimble you can get it in LIDL.

On the ww diet scale 2 slices is equivalent to 1pt.
So you could have 2 slices of nimble bread and scramble an egg in the micro and a bit of butter on the toast and your talking about 3pts alltogether.
At my weight I am allowed 32 pts in a day.If you want any advice you can pm me or put out as a question and the more people we get talking about losing weight we can all help each other .