Gallon of milk per day for weight gaim

UglyFuc

On top of a steady diet and stronglifts workout program, is this a wise idea?

a gallon of milk is an awful lot.. the milk only comes in 2 liter cartons and even that seems alot..

few questions to anyone thats tried. Full fat or low fat? when do you get to drink water if your so full of milk?

at the minute im 55 kg and about 174cm height. very skinny

Doug Cartel

I've never tried the whole gallon a day thing, but from what I've heard it's not supposed to be a long term thing. You only do it for about a month and then it's back to your regular diet. In that respect it's probably not going to do any harm.

On the other hand I'm kind of sceptical that it could really do as much as it claims. For a while there when I was training hard, at lifting and judo, I was polishing off 2 litres or more of milk a day on top of a full diet, and I didn't see any significant weight gains. (I'm about 71 kg btw)

Scuba Ste

It's not that big a deal. It's just an easy way of getting lots of calories.

4 litres is about 2500 calories, anything else you eat is nearly surplus calories for about €20 a week.

And yeah full fat, you want as many calories as possible, that low fat stuff is awful anyway.

d'Oracle

UglyFuc wrote: »

On top of a steady diet and stronglifts workout program, is this a wise idea?

a gallon of milk is an awful lot.. the milk only comes in 2 liter cartons and even that seems alot..

few questions to anyone thats tried. Full fat or low fat? when do you get to drink water if your so full of milk?

at the minute im 55 kg and about 174cm height. very skinny

I did it for 3 months.
I was not very skinny, but I felt I had gotten too thin.

Round it to 4 litres.
Its a pain in the ass at the start, but you get used to it.
Just break it up over the day. You'd be surprised how quickly a litre goes down after training. And thats 1/4 the way.

Full fat. Low fat would defeat the purpose imo, as a big part of the GOMAD approach is to take in heaps of extra calories. Low fat has less calories obv.

There is water in milk, but I found it made me thirsty. Urinating a lot will happen, I found I did have to get up at night, which is unusual for me.

Flex

What else do you usually eat?

UglyFuc

Flex wrote: »

What else do you usually eat?

at the minute, **** all. today for example.. got up at 12, two bowls of branflakes, and a sandwich at about 5, slice of toast around 7, an egg and a half at 9 and dat was it

gonna try start the strong lifts program tomorrow and im sorting through the fridge for ideas

30H!3

All that milk can't be good for your cholesterol, try mixing smaller amounts of milk with high calorie foods like coconut oil, peanut butter, honey, etc.

Flex

UglyFuc wrote: »

at the minute, **** all. today for example.. got up at 12, two bowls of branflakes, and a sandwich at about 5, slice of toast around 7, an egg and a half at 9 and dat was it

gonna try start the strong lifts program tomorrow and im sorting through the fridge for ideas

Ah right, well oatmeal and brown rice are very good sources of calories and theyre very cheap. If you can get some protein powder as well you could make shakes out of oatmeal, water and the powder. Theyre really great sources of calories and pretty cheap.

Doug Cartel

Seriously, seriously, seriously sort out your core diet before you start thinking about extras like GOMAD.

UglyFuc

actually to be honest i dont think ill drink a gallon of milk per day, its far to much.

2 liters is all i would do. it would roughly be 1350 calories which is more than enough for me starting anyway

Doug Cartel

Forget about the milk just now.

Concentrate on getting your breakfast, lunch and dinner everyday without fail. Proper balanced meals, and not just something you grabbed in a news-agents on your way from one place to another. Right now they don't have to be huge meals, just concentrate on eating consistently and regularly. Then throw in three snacks a day. By snack I mean a piece of fruit or a handful of nuts, no junk. Again the important thing is that you get used to having these at regular times.

Once you get used to eating regularly, start upping the volume of what you're eating.

Then when you're eating regularly and you're eating lots, and you reach the stage where this stops getting you sufficient weight gains, then start drinking the crazy amounts of milk.

d'Oracle

OP, GOMAD is supposed top be ON TOP of a solid diet.

There is not much point if you aren't eating properly to begin with.

Brian?

UglyFuc wrote: »

at the minute, **** all. today for example.. got up at 12, two bowls of branflakes, and a sandwich at about 5, slice of toast around 7, an egg and a half at 9 and dat was it

gonna try start the strong lifts program tomorrow and im sorting through the fridge for ideas

You must weight about 4 stone if that's all you eat in a day. You could double everything you eat in a day for a start, except for the bran flakes. Eat an omlette for breakfast instead, takes about 2 minutes to make.

glorified g

hey guys was doing a bit of research on GOMAD and came across this. im in a very similar situation to the OP except i do have a healthy core diet. 3 meals a day (as healthy as i can make them depending on college or work ), aswell as snacks, protein shakes etc. Im wondering what peoples opinions are about GOMAD. Not as a long term solution but just to gain some weight. I have tried countless things with no joy and would love some feed back.
Thanks and apologies to the Mods if they have a problem with me reviving an old thread.

jive

glorified g wrote: »

hey guys was doing a bit of research on GOMAD and came across this. im in a very similar situation to the OP except i do have a healthy core diet. 3 meals a day (as healthy as i can make them depending on college or work ), aswell as snacks, protein shakes etc. Im wondering what peoples opinions are about GOMAD. Not as a long term solution but just to gain some weight. I have tried countless things with no joy and would love some feed back.
Thanks and apologies to the Mods if they have a problem with me reviving an old thread.

If you want to gain some weight get some milk, peanut butter, some oats and whey. Toss all of this into a blender and go heavy on the peanut butter as it's very calorie dense. Drink this concoction. It's more calorie dense than just milk alone and provides a variety of decent ingredients. Start off by drinking 1 or 2 of these a day and then up it if you find that you are still not gaining weight.

I think drinking several litres of milk a day is excessive (even if just for a short period). Variety is the spice of life and it stops you from guzzling 4 litres of milk all day and pissing like a race horse.

I've never done GOMAD but I'm not sure why it's a temp thing to gain weight. Can someone explain this to me? Surely gaining weight is easiest at your lowest weight? What changes a month down the line that you suddenly don't need the milk anymore? Why not just get calories from other sources in the first place if you are just going to replace milk? Not trolling or anything, genuine question!

(note: if you don't have a blender... get chugging that milk and eat some peanut butter. It's easy to get more oats in you by drinking them raw - only for the hardy :P)

Mellor

jive wrote: »

What changes a month down the line that you suddenly don't need the milk anymore? Why not just get calories from other sources in the first place if you are just going to replace milk? Not trolling or anything, genuine question!

Its simply that you probably aren't going to be trying to put on weight permanantly. Some of the time you'll be cutting weight, some of the time you'll be maintaining weight

rubadub

Just remember they are talking US gallons

1 US gallon = 3.78
1 Imperial gallon = 4.54

So 0.76L in the difference, which is almost 500kcal extra per day if you made that mistake.

gavney1

i did GOMAD for a couple of months. helped me put on weight. In particular, I find milk is such a easy thing to add to your diet, that's why i like it.

But i've cut it down to 2 litres or so in the last month

glorified g

thanks to everyone for the replies. Boards is always a help

gavney1 wrote: »

i did GOMAD for a couple of months. helped me put on weight. In particular, I find milk is such a easy thing to add to your diet, that's why i like it.

But i've cut it down to 2 litres or so in the last month

gavney if ya dont mind me asking what was your diet like when you were drinking the 4+ litres a day. At the moment im eating a lot of the healthy stuff and taking protein shakes just wondering would i be over doing it if i did GOMAD on top of all that. And how much weight did you put up?? Thanks a million.

deadlybuzzman

Ive done it the last 2 years from sept to march-found it great for getting bigger and stronger-I was more gradual in going from 2-4L this year and I found I stayed a bit leaner this time around.
The 1st 2L I drink from 9am-5pm and the 2nd I drink through my workout or around suppertime with the last litre in bed.
If anyone thinks its alot to drink, compare it to how many pints they can drink-If thats less than 8 then they need to sort that out too

glorified g

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

Ive done it the last 2 years from sept to march-found it great for getting bigger and stronger-I was more gradual in going from 2-4L this year and I found I stayed a bit leaner this time around.
The 1st 2L I drink from 9am-5pm and the 2nd I drink through my workout or around suppertime with the last litre in bed.
If anyone thinks its alot to drink, compare it to how many pints they can drink-If thats less than 8 then they need to sort that out too

how much weight did you put up roughly. Been looking at GOMAD a lot and it seems to work for the majority of people who stick to it fully. Thanks for the reply.

Barry.Oglesby

Why hasn't YOCAD caught on? It has waaaayyy more protein content than GOMAD. I just don't understand why some people are living in the past.

deadlybuzzman

off the top of my head the 1st time around that I did it I went from about a soft undefined untrained looking 13 stone to a pudgy 14 1/2 and when I leaned out again I was just under 13 1/2 quite lean but had much more noticeable mass than when I started.
The reason I was pudgy was that I ate everything,takeaways, muffins, biscuits 2 eurosaver burgers per day etc. The 2nd time around Im back to 14 1/2 stone but much leaner this time around as a Sat night 1lb of meat only kebab is 1 of the few less than stellar food choices I make.
To be honest my target was to get to 15 stone and then cut but it didnt happen, Ive not been in a position to get sacks of protein like I used to, possibly if I was I mightve, thats next years target now!

glorified g

YOCAD stands for?

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Why hasn't YOCAD caught on? It has waaaayyy more protein content than GOMAD. I just don't understand why some people are living in the past.

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

off the top of my head the 1st time around that I did it I went from about a soft undefined untrained looking 13 stone to a pudgy 14 1/2 and when I leaned out again I was just under 13 1/2 quite lean but had much more noticeable mass than when I started.
The reason I was pudgy was that I ate everything,takeaways, muffins, biscuits 2 eurosaver burgers per day etc. The 2nd time around Im back to 14 1/2 stone but much leaner this time around as a Sat night 1lb of meat only kebab is 1 of the few less than stellar food choices I make.
To be honest my target was to get to 15 stone and then cut but it didnt happen, Ive not been in a position to get sacks of protein like I used to, possibly if I was I mightve, thats next years target now!

Thanks man. Im natutally very thin so i have a lot of work to do to gain weight. Id have to build myself up to the 4litres a day but im definatly going to try it. Was it an expensive way of bulking up?

Remmy

JOPBAD ...just throwing it out there..

deadlybuzzman

glorified g wrote: »

YOCAD stands for?




Thanks man. Im natutally very thin so i have a lot of work to do to gain weight. Id have to build myself up to the 4litres a day but im definatly going to try it. Was it an expensive way of bulking up?

it worked out at 2.60 a day so its not that bad compared to eating say a comparable amount of chicken

**Timbuk2**

glorified g wrote: »

YOCAD stands for?

YOCAD stands for a Yard of Cheese a day, I think!

deadlybuzzman

Remmy wrote: »

JOPBAD ...just throwing it out there..

jar of peanut butter a day? I remember reading about 1 trainer that eat a bag of bagels and jar of PB per day......... between meals I think to prove a point about upping his beach by eating more, couldve been for something else but either way it was good going!!

compaqlaptop1

Why are people advised to drink a gallon of regular milk a day as opposed to a gallon of low fat milk? Low fat milk has the same amount of protein, so it seems like by drinking regular milk all you are doing is giving yourself an extra few calories of fat, whats the point in that?

Remmy

compaqlaptop1 wrote: »

Why are people advised to drink a gallon of regular milk a day as opposed to a gallon of low fat milk? Low fat milk has the same amount of protein, so it seems like by drinking regular milk all you are doing is giving yourself an extra few calories of fat, whats the point in that?

Its for the extra calories.Its a program used for people who need to gain weight.If you want lean protein go eat some chicken breasts.

gavney1

glorified g wrote: »

thanks to everyone for the replies. Boards is always a help



gavney if ya dont mind me asking what was your diet like when you were drinking the 4+ litres a day. At the moment im eating a lot of the healthy stuff and taking protein shakes just wondering would i be over doing it if i did GOMAD on top of all that. And how much weight did you put up?? Thanks a million.

There was a recent thread about Starting strenght and GOMAD

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70684853

I posted in that what my own changes have been.

I've upped my food intake overall in the last couple years. Because I've been doing heavy lifting, I find that what I used to eat wouldn't satisfy me anymore. I used to be a "3 square meals a day" person.

So, basically I've gone up 2 and a half stone in the last 6 months - a good chunk of that due to GOMAD, but certainly not all.

I'm 6'0 and am now approx 14st 10lbs. I've gained a bit of a gut and put on a bit of muscle/fat around my arse (from squatting mostly). I've gained a bit of muscle elsewhere also (shoulders, chest arms, back) but it's most noticeable on my legs and arse (esp cause I've gone from a 32 waist to a 36 waist!)

I'm happier with how I look now than I did 2 years ago, even though I've gained a small amount of fat. I was always afraid of getting fat, but now when I look back at pictures of myself at 11st 10lbs, I realise I was a pretty skinny guy and it didn't look good on me.

All in all though, the thing I'm happiest about is getting into Starting strength and making progress in my strength level, which I really enjoy.

My diet for yesterday was something like this (note I wasn't training)

8am - 4 egg scrambled egg on 2 slices toast + bowl of special K w/ full fat milk

11am - big tin of tuna and half a litre of milk

1:30 pm - Baguette with ham/ coleslaw/ cheese, cup of coffee

4pm - big tin of tuna + half a bag of almonds.

7pm - steak sandwich with mayo some tomatoes, pint of milk, root beer

10pm - protein shake with milk (casein)

DribblingRobot

What exactly is a "yard" of cheese? Google's giving me nothing.

Remmy

DribblingRobot wrote: »

What exactly is a "yard" of cheese? Google's giving me nothing.

Its slightly larger than a meter..but smaller than a pood.

Barry.Oglesby

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

YOCAD stands for a Yard of Cheese a day, I think!

No it doesn't but if you're getting the protein from bad sources then it's conceivable that there could be some cheese in there somewhere.

K09

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

Ive done it the last 2 years from sept to march-found it great for getting bigger and stronger-I was more gradual in going from 2-4L this year and I found I stayed a bit leaner this time around.
The 1st 2L I drink from 9am-5pm and the 2nd I drink through my workout or around suppertime with the last litre in bed.
If anyone thinks its alot to drink, compare it to how many pints they can drink-If thats less than 8 then they need to sort that out too

How do you manage to drink a litre when going to bed?? I find it makes me very belchy. Any advice?

grimloch

gavney1 wrote: »

I'm 6'0 and am now approx 14st 10lbs. I've gained a bit of a gut and put on a bit of muscle/fat around my arse (from squatting mostly). I've gained a bit of muscle elsewhere also (shoulders, chest arms, back) but it's most noticeable on my legs and arse (esp cause I've gone from a 32 waist to a 36 waist!)

Putting 4 inches on my waist in 6 months sounds like getting fat to me.

I should know, I did the same.

**Timbuk2**

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

No it doesn't but if you're getting the protein from bad sources then it's conceivable that there could be some cheese in there somewhere.

Oh, what does it stand for then?

deadlybuzzman

K09 wrote: »

How do you manage to drink a litre when going to bed?? I find it makes me very belchy. Any advice?

Ill be actually sitting in bed reading posts on the likes of here and just gulp away at it-same as how you would when you have to drink fast, deep breath in, breath out, chest up and gulp gulp gulp-just get it down, burp as required(and fart as required later)
its the same as any other bulking plan, once you get to eating a certain volume of food you have to eat past being comfortable at least some of the time. I read a post by strongman clint durden where he said that when he is bulking he is uncomfortably full all day long, now thats a guy thats big but it shows that its not something that just happens, you make yourself do it, being on the edge of puking was a common sensation for me last year when I started it the 1st time

gavney1

grimloch wrote: »

Putting 4 inches on my waist in 6 months sounds like getting fat to me.

I should know, I did the same.

well, not necessarily.

Like, the reason I've had the most obvious size gain around my waist is cause I'd never done squats every before, or heavy deadlifts EVER in my life. I'd been doing upper body work for a couple years, so had made some slight gains there.

So, I noticed that as soon as I started doing squats (like within a month) my legs/ arse got suddenly bigger, along with increasing my food intake. The changes haven't been as marked since then.

It's mostly muscle that I've gained on my arse, and legs, but some fat I'm sure.

Mellor

compaqlaptop1 wrote: »

Why are people advised to drink a gallon of regular milk a day as opposed to a gallon of low fat milk? Low fat milk has the same amount of protein, so it seems like by drinking regular milk all you are doing is giving yourself an extra few calories of fat, whats the point in that?

The point is getting in extra cals. There is no reason wht you can't use low fat, but you'd have to drink 1.25 gallons

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

Oh, what does it stand for then?

It's not actually a suggestion. It's a joke, don't read too much into it

**Timbuk2**

Mellor wrote: »

It's not actually a suggestion. It's a joke, don't read too much into it

Ah, I see. Embarrassing

gonedrinking

Mellor wrote: »

The point is getting in extra cals. There is no reason wht you can't use low fat, but you'd have to drink 1.25 gallons

I thought the point of GOMAD was the extra protein to build muscle? And anyway, if you drink a gallon of low fat milk a day chances are you are still going to be in a big calorie surplus position anyway.

Mickk

I drink a gallon of 2% milk every day and have done for as long as I remember (probably the last 7-8 years.) My metabolism is very fast and my job is physical so I need the calories, I bulked on 5500 cals and at the moment I'm getting a bit leaner on 4000 cals a day with 2000 coming from milk.

danlen

gonedrinking wrote: »

I thought the point of GOMAD was the extra protein to build muscle? And anyway, if you drink a gallon of low fat milk a day chances are you are still going to be in a big calorie surplus position anyway.

No, not really. The protein is a nice secondary advantage but the mainpoint of GOMAD is that it offers a vast amount of calories and is convienient. There's no real reason to go low-fat as you want the calories to be high and the higher amounts of fat are not going to cause any problems (in fact they may help if you consider the hormonal effects of higher fat intake).