Would a Republican drown?

Winty

My question for today is,
If found in trouble off the Irish Coast would a Republican refuse help from the Royal National Lifeboat Institution as it’s a wing of the imperial oppressor.

Many on boards don’t like the anglicising of Irish culture via television, sport and high street shops, does this include the RNLI. Should they be replaced with just NLI and drop the “Royal”.

I have nothing but respect for the brave men and woman who volunteer to help others. They are heroes and the RNLI name has a long and proud history.

Joyce Country

I've often wondered why the tossers kept royal in their name - bunch of west brits. I'd probably take the lift off them if i was drowning though

Noopti

If a republican decided to drown rather than be saved by the RNLI then that would be a perfect example of Darwins theories in action.

Nodin

I see the finger painting hasn't helped with your obsession W.....

owenc

Joyce Country wrote: »

I've often wondered why the tossers kept royal in their name - bunch of west brits. I'd probably take the lift off them if i was drowning though

Erm because its the british coastguard group, i actually don't know why they are looking after the republic of irelands coast anyway, but whatever.

owenc

Noopti wrote: »

If a republican decided to drown rather than be saved by the RNLI then that would be a perfect example of Darwins theories in action.

No it would just be plain daft!

My name is URL

Kind of a ridiculous question really.. can't help but think it's just a shit stirring exercise

Noopti

owenc wrote: »

No it would just be plain daft!

Well to put it in simpler terms, yes.

120_Minutes

because we're a nation of hypocritical pricks i dont think a republican would care if he was saved by british, black, homosexual wheelchair bound lifeguards as long as he was fished out of the water.

jd007

if i was drowning i wouldn't give a fuck who saved me tbh

pablomakaveli

owenc wrote: »

Erm because its the british coastguard group, i actually don't know why they are looking after the republic of irelands coast anyway, but whatever.

It makes sense to have a unified lifeboat association as it gives better coverage and cooperation in helping people in the Irish Sea, North Sea etc.

bonerm

The RDS should change their name to the Nintendo DS (get a bit sponsorship into the deal whilst sticking two fingers at the Brits).

Superbus

I'd imagine most people would set aside their political allegiances if it meant their life being saved.

owenc

120_Minutes wrote: »

because we're a nation of hypocritical pricks i dont think a republican would care if he was saved by british, black, homosexual wheelchair bound lifeguards as long as he was fished out of the water.

Some of the really bitter ones would, you'll die if you ever meet one, they seriously are overboard.

owenc

pablomakaveli wrote: »

It makes sense to have a unified lifeboat association as it gives better coverage and cooperation in helping people in the Irish Sea, North Sea etc.

oh i see.

120_Minutes

120_Minutes wrote: »

because we're a nation of hypocritical pricks i dont think a republican would care if he was saved by british, black, homosexual wheelchair bound lifeguards as long as he was fished out of the water.

IF someone filmed that I would watch it. A wheelchair-using lifeguard? fairplay

danbohan

Winty wrote: »

My question for today is,
If found in trouble off the Irish Coast would a Republican refuse help from the Royal National Lifeboat Institution as it’s a wing of the imperial oppressor.

Many on boards don’t like the anglicising of Irish culture via television, sport and high street shops, does this include the RNLI. Should they be replaced with just NLI and drop the “Royal”.

I have nothing but respect for the brave men and woman who volunteer to help others. They are heroes and the RNLI name has a long and proud history.

the real question here winty is if you are a member of RNLI would you save the republican or would your bigotted side push him under ?, whats your obsession with republicans /ira . you do know the war is over and republicans now are minsters in the northern ireland assembly .i know that must hurt you a lot ,but really you should try to live with it

danbohan

owenc wrote: »

Some of the really bitter ones would, you'll die if you ever meet one, they seriously are overboard.

the really bitter ones are all on your side ! hopefully your not one

smash

Not Sarah Palin, her tits would help her float...

oh wait, what are we talking about?

owenc

danbohan wrote: »

the really bitter ones are all on your side ! hopefully your not one

of course not!:eek:

danbohan

owenc wrote: »

of course not!:eek:

outstanding !

Winty

danbohan wrote: »

the real question here winty is if you are a member of RNLI would you save the republican or would your bigotted side push him under ?, whats your obsession with republicans /ira . you do know the war is over and republicans now are minsters in the northern ireland assembly .i know that must hurt you a lot ,but really you should try to live with it

Dan, I put this in AfterHours for a laugh.

We have some great Republicans on boards that offer alot to the debate and have changed my thinking on some topics. But we have some who cant take a joke and tar all Republicans as thugs, what team do you play on?

Paddy Samurai

Winty wrote: »

My question for today is,
If found in trouble off the Irish Coast would a Republican refuse help from the Royal National Lifeboat Institution as it’s a wing of the imperial oppressor.

No of course not,don't be daft.He would accept their assistance gratefully like anyone else would.
Then when they dock, he would rig the boat/helicopter to blow and run to the nearest telephone box to ring in a warning.Thats standard operating procedure.

danbohan

Winty wrote: »

Dan, I put this in AfterHours for a laugh.

We have some great Republicans on boards that offer alot to the debate and have changed my thinking on some topics. But we have some who cant take a joke and tar all Republicans as thugs, what team do you play on?

really winty had not noticed your road to damascus moment , as a republican i greatly admire the RNLI and name does not bother me one bit , so yea i would take the lift

biko

No, republicans doesn't oppose lifeboats and RSPCA and similar, the issue is with soldiers, not helpful organisations or charities..

PeterIanStaker

Winty wrote: »

My question for today is,
If found in trouble off the Irish Coast would a Republican refuse help from the Royal National Lifeboat Institution as it’s a wing of the imperial oppressor.

Many on boards don’t like the anglicising of Irish culture via television, sport and high street shops, does this include the RNLI. Should they be replaced with just NLI and drop the “Royal”.

I have nothing but respect for the brave men and woman who volunteer to help others. They are heroes and the
RNLI name has a long and proud history.

how about Irish National Lifeboat Institution - INLI?

oh wait . . .

Einhard

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

how about Irish National Lifeboat Institution - INLI?

oh wait . . .

Associtaion would have an even better ring to it I think.

oh wait...

LordSutch

Winty wrote: »

If found in trouble off the Irish Coast would a Republican refuse help from the Royal National Lifeboat Institution as it’s a wing of the imperial oppressor.

Imperial oppressor me bum :rolleyes: What the hell are you on about man, or are you are just s*** stirring for the sake of it? This is 2010 & the RNLI do a fantastic job all around the coastline of Ireland & Britain, they are a truly fantastic organisation, which has the added seal of Royal approval.
Get a grip man!

Winty wrote: »

Many on boards don’t like the anglicising of Irish culture via television, sport and high street shops, does this include the RNLI. Should they be replaced with just NLI and drop the “Royal”.

My wife works in the Royal Victoria eye & ear hospital (Dublin), should it also change its name to suit your raving Anti-British bile - dear Lord :rolleyes:

Are we not allowed to share any culture with the island next door?

What a waste of a thread ..............

Mike 1972

^^ And they say Republicans cant take a joke ??????

Winty wrote: »

My question for today is,
If found in trouble off the Irish Coast would a Republican refuse help from the Royal National Lifeboat Institution as it’s a wing of the imperial oppressor.

Probably Not

Although If they were true Republicans they would never holiday In Spain, Denmark, The Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden.......

Winty

LordSutch wrote: »

Get a grip man!

Sorry Lordsutch, I think you got the wrong end of the stick, I put this in Afterhours as a joke, The RNLI crews are nothing only Heroes as I said in the OP

InTheTrees

Joyce Country wrote: »

I've often wondered why the tossers kept royal in their name - bunch of west brits. I'd probably take the lift off them if i was drowning though

Here's a Big Clue:

RNLI

Head Office
West Quay Road
Poole
BH15 1HZ

Hank_Jones

I'm not a republican, so I wouldn't really know.

Personally I would probably be glad to be saved by anyone, many aren't that lucky.

Dionysus

Winty wrote: »

My question for today is,
If found in trouble off the Irish Coast would a Republican refuse help from the Royal National Lifeboat Institution as it’s a wing of the imperial oppressor.

Many on boards don’t like the anglicising of Irish culture via television, sport and high street shops, does this include the RNLI. Should they be replaced with just NLI and drop the “Royal”.

I have nothing but respect for the brave men and woman who volunteer to help others. They are heroes and the RNLI name has a long and proud history.

I've a slightly different take on this: what is it with British state-making/myth making/nationalism that they must put the word 'royal' in the name of organisations which should be apolitical? What is it in that culture which dictates that organisations must propagate a royalist cult in every area of society? It's all rather crass and uber nationalistic.

Please explain.


The RNLI was only founded in 1824, which is not exactly a "long" history. You seem very keen to propagate this cult. The RNLI also depends on public donations from Irish citizens to continue its work so your 'pride' is more accurately viewed as conceit on this issue.

Lastly, are you really implying that Irish people would not be able to save Irish people without having an organisation with the adjective 'royal' in the title?

Your post is obtuse, even for a British nationalist in After Hours posting his turgid embittered political trite under the guise of "humour".

InTheTrees

Dionysus wrote: »

I've a slightly different take on this: what is it with British state-making/myth making/nationalism that they must put the word 'royal' in the name of organisations which should be apolitical? What is it in that culture which dictates that organisations must propagate a royalist cult in every area of society? It's all rather crass and uber nationalistic.

Please explain.

Basically, yes, they are crass and uber nationalistic.

And they do love their royalty, it gives a feeling of longevity and tradition (and its not considered "political").

Mike 1972

Dionysus wrote: »

I've a slightly different take on this: what is it with British state-making/myth making/nationalism that they must put the word 'royal' in the name of organisations which should be apolitical? What is it in that culture which dictates that organisations must propagate a royalist cult in every area of society? It's all rather crass and uber nationalistic..

Yes they have a secret committee dedicated to thinking up names that will annoy you the most :rolleyes:

Jesus, Muhammad and Elvis :rolleyes:

Dionysus

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Yes they have a secret committee dedicated to thinking up names that will annoy you the most :rolleyes:

Jesus, Muhammad and Elvis :rolleyes:

Very mature response - not. It is, however, strange that you appear to have little problem with this ubiquitous display of British nationalism/royalism but are among the first to criticise any display of Irish nationalism. Is that because you support the former, or is there a more ethical justification for your double standards?

Mike 1972

Go away I dont have time to come out and play with you today :rolleyes:

Dionysus

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Go away I dont have time to come out and play with you today :rolleyes:

That was so, like, witty, like. Are you Owen's daddy?

Winty

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Yes they have a secret committee dedicated to thinking up names that will annoy you the most :rolleyes:

Jesus, Muhammad and Elvis :rolleyes:

Cheers Mike, glad to see some people see the humour intended

Winty

Dionysus wrote: »

Your post is obtuse, even for a British nationalist in After Hours posting his turgid embittered political trite under the guise of "humour".

You cant see the Joke can you?

InTheTrees

Dionysus wrote: »

Very mature response - not. It is, however, strange that you appear to have little problem with this ubiquitous display of British nationalism/royalism

I thought it was funny.

Would you rather they used "British" in their names? I supose most countries use the country name in their national organisations. Is that bad? I dunno.

Taking it one step further is it nationalistic to use the country name ever?

oppenheimer1

Dionysus wrote: »

I've a slightly different take on this: what is it with British state-making/myth making/nationalism that they must put the word 'royal' in the name of organisations which should be apolitical? What is it in that culture which dictates that organisations must propagate a royalist cult in every area of society? It's all rather crass and uber nationalistic.

Please explain.


The RNLI was only founded in 1824, which is not exactly a "long" history. You seem very keen to propagate this cult. The RNLI also depends on public donations from Irish citizens to continue its work so your 'pride' is more accurately viewed as conceit on this issue.

Lastly, are you really implying that Irish people would not be able to save Irish people without having an organisation with the adjective 'royal' in the title?

Your post is obtuse, even for a British nationalist in After Hours posting his turgid embittered political trite under the guise of "humour".

The victorians believed especially in tradition and institutions founded at the time often tried to draw on history for legitimacy. Although founded in 1824 they only adopted their current name in the 1850's

losthorizon

Err the RNLI wasnt formed in the UK.

Dionysus

Winty wrote: »

You cant see the Joke can you?

InTheTrees wrote: »

I thought it was funny.

It wasn't really; somebody made this "joke" in a letter to The Irish Times about ten years ago, the implication being that the Irish couldn't save themselves unless they had an organisation with the adjective 'royal' in it. It was dim then, now it just adds unoriginality to the initial attribute.

JuliusCaesar

Winty wrote: »

We have some great Republicans on boards that offer alot to the debate and have changed my thinking on some topics.

This must be a first for AH!

Ireland covers 43 lifeboat stations throughout Northern Ireland and the Republic, including inland stations at Enniskillen and Lough Derg. The fundraising regional office, based in Swords, covers fundraising activities for the whole of Ireland

There are quite a few all-Ireland organisations, but I think the RNLI is unique among organisations here. Just as well they exist. They are a charity in the UK too.:rolleyes:

InTheTrees

losthorizon wrote: »

Err the RNLI wasnt formed in the UK.

Fascinating. Isle of Man is practically ireland.

I think its actually more interesting that they use the word "national" in the name considering they cover the republic as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_National_Lifeboat_Institution

Winty

Dionysus wrote: »

It wasn't really; somebody made this "joke" in a letter to The Irish Times about ten years ago, the implication being that the Irish couldn't save themselves unless they had an organisation with the adjective 'royal' in it.

You know Dionysus sometimes your just no Craic at all.

Mike 1972

InTheTrees wrote: »

I think its actually more interesting that they use the word "national" in the name considering they cover the republic as well.

Might have something to do with the fact that they were formed in 1824 ?

Oh no thats just silly isint it............

Dionysus

InTheTrees wrote: »

I thought it was funny.

Would you rather they used "British" in their names? I supose most countries use the country name in their national organisations. Is that bad? I dunno.

Taking it one step further is it nationalistic to use the country name ever?

What's wrong with NLI if it's a British organisation? The RDS is a case in point - it was initially named the Dublin Society and only afterwards renamed to include the word 'royal' as part of the same British royalist cult which had Irish streets and towns renamed, and statues erected. Not very enlightened of our supposedly apolitical, post-nationalist neighbours.

InTheTrees

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Might have something to do with the fact that they were formed in 1824 ?

Oh no thats just silly isint it............

Well duh!

I'm man enough to admit to being an idiot at times...

Kasabian

Republicans and Loyalists couldn't possibly drown , sh!t floats.