Who do YOU support?

thebigbiffo

Hanging around AH for a while now I've come to realise that you guys love a good polarising of opinions. FF are traitors, FG are useless, Labour have no policies, Shinners are terrorists, Greens are holding the gov to ransom etc.

I want to know what the real picture is. What/Who do you believe in? Put your necks on the line now - out with it! The country's so f'ucked up yeah? Well who's gonna save it and how should they do it?

Personally, I will vote FF again. I do actually believe their unpopularity at the moment has given them the opportunity to make the tough decisions and follow through and they're doing a reasonable job - the black hole Anglo being the exception (although my fellow bogger should resign imo, he was minister for finance and should shoulder the responsiblity for not seeing the meltdown). Let the virtual lynching commence for that one.

Everyone please be nice. This is about what YOU would do to help this country and who in your opinion are the 'best of the bad lot' to represent your views. It's a democracy, we have to vote for somebody so who should it be and what would you have them do when they got there.

mods: this is a question for the AH crew we all know and love so please dont move to politics...everyone on here has an opinion about whats wrong with the country - let AHers tell us what we can do right for a change + it's a damn slow news week!

petes

Take it to Politics.

syklops

Is that you Taioseach?

GrizzlyMan

I Support closing this tread!! Stupid fu4king politics:mad:

artanevilla

I'd be a terrorist so.

ejmaztec

We're all voting for the DUP.

ScumLord

I like to pick the best person for the job, really I end up picking the least worst person and the furthest away from the people I don't want in government which usually results in voting for the independents or Sinn Fein.

Adam

GrizzlyMan wrote: »

I Support closing this tread!! Stupid fu4king politics:mad:

+1

Wazdakka

I don't have enough free time at the moment to type out anywhere near a comprehensive list of what I see wrong / would do better in the running of this country.

If this thread is still open later I'll prob write it out then.

Anybody know the character limit on a post?

Blackhorse Slim

I used to vote Green, cos they were the least ****ed up party. then Gormley took over. Now I don't know what to do

thebigbiffo

syklops wrote: »

Is that you Taioseach?

mooving faarward, i believe its imparartive that we dont discount this thread entirely until someone at least has a bit of craic from it

yes it's mme, hello

but seriously, we talk about politics all the time in AH. bloody sarkozy to isreal - why cant we have an AH slant on - not so much politics - but what you guys would do to have the country run better

mojesius

For now, I think we should have esteemed businessfolk with a successful record running the country like Michael O'Leary/ Fergal Quinn. No nonsense and we'd always have nice bread.

Einstein

does the jaguar count in the "others" option?

smash

Blackhorse Slim wrote: »

I used to vote Green, cos they were the least ****ed up party. then Gormley took over. Now I don't know what to do

You voted for them, take your medicine! :P

mojesius

Einstein wrote: »

does the jaguar count in the "others" option?

Yeah I was unsure where/if to vote. Damn commies aren't getting my vote.

Sulmac

thebigbiffo wrote: »

Personally, I will vote FF again. I do actually believe their unpopularity at the moment has given them the opportunity to make the tough decisions and follow through and they're doing a reasonable job - the black hole Anglo being the exception (although my fellow bogger should resign imo, he was minister for finance and should shoulder the responsiblity for not seeing the meltdown). Let the virtual lynching commence for that one.

Why should they be congratulated for attempting to fix the mess they very clearly got us into?

SeaFields

I just dont give a fcuk anymore. Its too depressing - not being able to get a job, seeing friends struggle to pay mortgages and bills, seeing friends emigrate, seeing older people losing jobs knowing they will never work again, not being able to plan for a future.

No one, and I repeat, NO ONE, can get us out of this mess. Ireland is finished.

mojesius

SeaFields wrote: »

I just dont give a fcuk anymore. Its too depressing - not being able to get a job, seeing friends struggle to pay mortgages and bills, seeing friends emigrate, seeing older people losing jobs knowing they will never work again, not being able to plan for a future.

No one, and I repeat, NO ONE, can get us out of this mess. Ireland is finished.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a5vaIsaxB8

thebigbiffo

mojesius wrote: »

For now, I think we should have esteemed businessfolk with a successful record running the country like Michael O'Leary/ Fergal Quinn. No nonsense and we'd always have nice bread.

i like this. imagine o'leary running the hse - as he was asked to do by tubs one night on the late late. bet yer ass it's be more cost efficient anyway.

i thiink a good idea is a type of localised bond. within counties, you buy into a bond with a modest gauranteed return from the gov over x years. the money is then used to build schools, community centres and other social needs projects. this puts the majority of people who lost their jobs in construction to work and benefits the community as a whole - the govenment (ie. the people) pay back those bond over a specified time. we save a shed load on dole payments and everyone benefits!

squod

No more free elections, anyone who votes FF to get deported and their job given to someone more deserving.

I'll say this.

If Fianna Fail put their collective hands up, said "we f*cked up", called a general election as a matter of honour, lost it honestly, and regrouped at the next election, I would respect them.

As it stands, they do not get the concept that they must take punishment from their behaviour. I liken it to being on a Navy sailing ship back in ye olden tymes. If you did wrong, you were tied to a grate, got your 12 lashes (whipped), and then got on with it. The point being that whatever wrong you did, you were punished for it, and no one could punish you for it again. The guy who went and took his lashes willingly was far more respected than the slimy gutless wretch who screamed in agony and begged for mercy.

If FF went to the people, got their 30 lashes, and then got on with being in Opposition, I would support them afterwards.

They're not. I support Eamon Gilmore.

thebigbiffo

Sulmac wrote: »

Why should they be congratulated for attempting to fix the mess they very clearly got us into?

i'm only pointing out that as the people who 'got us into it' (which i only believe is true to an extent) and becuase of the unpopularity that comes from that, they've a certain, commendable, 'might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb' attitude. they know they're f'ucked as a party for the foreseeable future so it's a case of now - imo - they can do what they believe is in the best interests of the country, not whats iin the best interests of the party.

just my opinion

mikom

I support myself.............. those tossers never did anything for me except take ,take ,take.

thebigbiffo

mikom wrote: »

I support myself.............. those tossers never did anything for me except take ,take ,take.

yeah, but we all gotta live here and someones gotta run the show. democracy is the only show in town - so how to go about gettin the system to 'give, give, give' for a change?

SeaFields

thebigbiffo wrote: »

so how to go about gettin the system to 'give, give, give' for a change?

Therein lies the problem. Give, give give. Thats what they all did - banks, employers, governments' budgets just gave it out without considering that one day the big party may end. It did and now we are screwed BUT FF still have a job and so do their buddies.

Pauleta

I voted for Fianna Fail because if i dont vote for them this time they will make me vote again.

mikom

thebigbiffo wrote: »

yeah, but we all gotta live here and someones gotta run the show. democracy is the only show in town - so how to go about gettin the system to 'give, give, give' for a change?

Fuckin' dreamland

El Weirdo

thebigbiffo wrote: »

democracy is the only show in town

Democracy doesn't work. The general public are obviously morons. Just look at what the most popular shows on television are and the music charts. Not to mention the shower of knobheads that they re-elect every few years.

And don't kid yourselves, Fine Gael are no fucking different to Fianna Fail.

Edit: I support QPR btw.

thebigbiffo

mikom wrote: »

Fuckin' dreamland

commune much?

squod

El Weirdo wrote: »

Democracy doesn't work. The general public are obviously morons. Just look at what the most popular shows on television are and the music charts. Not to mention the shower of knobheads that they re-elect every few years.

And don't kid yourselves, Fine Gael are no fucking different to Fianna Fail.

+1

thebigbiffo

El Weirdo wrote: »

Democracy doesn't work. The general public are obviously morons. Just look at what the most popular shows on television are and the music charts. Not to mention the shower of knobheads that they re-elect every few years.

And don't kid yourselves, Fine Gael are no fucking different to Fianna Fail.

Edit: I support QPR btw.

scary as that sounds, you are f'uckin right - however, i'll only trust myself as dictator - everyone else would just become power hungry and rape my sisters

R0ot

After Hours should be like the old pub I grew up in, No discussion or Religion or Politics...




.... and the Customer is never right! :pac:

thebigbiffo

R0ot wrote: »

After Hours should be like the old pub I grew up in, No discussion or Religion or Politics...




.... and the Customer is never right! :pac:

yeah, the thing being though that the best conversations about both ALWAYS happen down the pub. that's just the line you throw out just before 2 auld lads start kickin lumps off each other

Thomas828

It's been the same old two-horse race between FF and FG ever since I can remember. Irish politics has been stagnant for decades. Even during the Celtic Tiger years Ireland was getting richer but nothing was changing at the top. We need something to stir up this stagnant country, like the Bolshevik Revolution but without the bloodshed.

moonpurple

i support anyone who fixes the ivor callelly 'never ending story' by passing an act in the dail that makes this the last senate term as the senate will now close,

the european parliament and the dail and local county council chambers are enough parliaments without a pointless senate
:pac:

PeterIanStaker

Fianna Fail = enough said.

Fine Gael = dumb and dumber

Labour = hot air

Sinn Fein = boring, irrelevant nordies

Greens = worthless deluded tree huggers

Independents Only = Jackie Really Hay?

Other: Socialists, Communists, Workers Party etc = too small and too loony

RayM

If they're running a candidate in my constituency, I'll probably vote for the Socialist Party, because they're the least mental of the left-wing fringe parties. Failing that, I'll probably settle for Labour.

Most of all, I'm just looking forward to the election. It'll be the first one in my lifetime where Fianna Fail will get a good kicking. Hopefully, the remaining 20% (or whatever it is) of bog-brained, toothless fucks who still plan to vote for them won't be able to find their way to the polling stations. I'm amazed they can find their way out of bed, frankly.

Notorious97

People should give SF a go, the troubles is on the road to recovery up North, hopefully good times ahead for all residents within the 6 counties and surrounding areas. SF and Labour are the only two with any hope I think, I know SF will get a lot of stick on here for being ‘terrorists’ but that’s life I guess.

Anyway I support SF, and would like to see them do well.

Wibbs

FF corrupt eejits

FG dopey eejits

SF dopey policies

L what do they want again?

G utterly useless wastes of air.

thebigbiffo

RayM wrote: »

If they're running a candidate in my constituency, I'll probably vote for the Socialist Party, because they're the least mental of the left-wing fringe parties. Failing that, I'll probably settle for Labour.

Most of all, I'm just looking forward to the election. It'll be the first one in my lifetime where Fianna Fail will get a good kicking. Hopefully, the remaining 20% (or whatever it is) of bog-brained, toothless fucks who still plan to vote for them won't be able to find their way to the polling stations. I'm amazed they can find their way out of bed, frankly.

the problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money.

does this make sense to you at all?

ElaElaElano

Same as RayM, Socialist Party permitting they run a candidate here. The Socialist Workers Party is full of middle-class hippy students who just want to rebel, whereas the SP are more focused on getting things done in the estates that most need them. And Joe Higgins was fúcking brilliant when in the Dáil.

Viper_JB

There should be an "All politicians are bastards, but i'll take anything over what we have right now" option :P

mikom

thebigbiffo wrote: »

commune much?

I am so far from the commune as you would not believe it.
Things are not always black or white......... or green.

My name is URL

RayM wrote: »

If they're running a candidate in my constituency, I'll probably vote for the Socialist Party, because they're the least mental of the left-wing fringe parties. Failing that, I'll probably settle for Labour.

Not sure about the socialist party on the whole, but Joe Higgins is one of the best political leaders in the country, imo

thebigbiffo

mikom wrote: »

I am so far from the commune as you would not believe it.
Things are not always black or white......... or green.

mikom wrote: »

Fuckin' dreamland

thebigbiffo wrote: »

yeah, but we all gotta live here and someones gotta run the show. democracy is the only show in town - so how to go about gettin the system to 'give, give, give' for a change?

what's 'f'uckin dreamland' all about then? no commune, no democracy....let me try again then

anarchy much?

Wibbs

My name is URL wrote: »

Not sure about the socialist party on the whole, but Joe Higgins is one of the best political leaders in the country, imo

I have huge time for Joe and I agree 100%. He is a decent man and that combination of words is usually an oxymoron in politics in this country.

That said he's a socialist. I would love to agree with him on policy(and some I do) but the problem with socialists is they're really brilliant at apportioning money where its required, but havent a bulls notion how to make the money in the first place.

Prof.Badass

Out of all the parties in ireland (left, right whatever) there is not one which is socially liberal.

We really are a backward country .

The Waltzing Consumer

My name is URL wrote: »

Not sure about the socialist party on the whole, but Joe Higgins is one of the best political leaders in the country, imo

I don't know about that. I am from his constituency and I think he gets too much credit. He is a great speaker and I would respect him, but he ain't going to get me a job. If he was in charge, would west Dublin have gotten eBay, IBM, Paypal, the Blanchardstown center and the many other companies that came to our area? NO! Thousands and thousands of jobs came to our area thanks to policies of FF and FG, and I ain't a fan of either.

He also, in my view, completely disrespected the tragic death of a young man in the area by politicising his death and making west Dublin out to be some racist kkk loving area. So f**k him!

thebigbiffo

Wibbs wrote: »

I have huge time for Joe and I agree 100%. He is a decent man and that combination of words is usually an oxymoron in politics in this country.

That said he's a socialist. I would love to agree with him on policy(and some I do) but the problem with socialists is they're really brilliant at apportioning money where its required, but havent a bulls notion how to make the money in the first place.

have to agree here. met him before and thought him 100% genuine and dedicated to the people he was elected to represent, unlike most politicians.

why the f'uck did he go so far left though!

RayM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

the problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money.

does this make sense to you at all?

And the problem with Capitalism is that you never run out of methods of exploiting people in order to generate more money (or rather, the illusion thereof).

See what I did there? I took your trite Maggie Thatcher one-liner and turned it around, for the purpose of making a similarly lazy comment about Capitalism, the worst excesses of which have caused this country to pretty much... run out of money.

thebigbiffo

RayM wrote: »

And the problem with Capitalism is that you never run out of methods of exploiting people in order to generate more money (or rather, the illusion thereof).

See what I did there? I took your trite Maggie Thatcher one-liner and turned it around, for the purpose of making a similarly lazy comment about Capitalism, the worst excesses of which have caused this country to pretty much... run out of money.

find me a system that's worked better than capitalism for improving the majorities lot (for all it's faults) and then we'll talk