Car tax! My most hated bill ever...

anniehoo

I havent had tax on my car since Nov 09. Not embarrassed or ashamed..just sh!ttin myself that ill be caught.Id never in a million years drive with no insurance (honestly NEVER) but for some reason im only mildy worried about getting caught for no tax.

I hate paying it (it has to be done, i know), but i particularly HATE paying this bill when i spent €50.80 just on tolls alone last month :mad: (i cant avoid the fcukers). Im bloody broke...ALL the time!

Im so tired payin for sh!t when theres not a better alternative (35 min car drive vs 90mins bus) I dont drive a fancy car...far from it 99 Civic

So...car drivers. Always pay it, let it slide everynow and again...or never pay it?

galwayrush

It's cheaper to pay it.;)

Dempsey

I always pay it, I dont need to stress of waiting to be caught

AnonoBoy

Dublin Bikes are only 10 euro a year and I live close enough to walk to work when I'm feeling lazy.

Now..... what was the question?

Ickle Magoo

Always pay it, not worth the stress of not paying. They do random check-points round here and try to reverse or do a U-turn and they chase...just not worth it; as much as paying for the tyre and suspension damage while travelling a road littered with pot-holes that has been promised upgrades for the last three elections annoys me.

mojesius

anniehoo wrote: »

I havent had tax on my car since Nov 09. Not embarrassed or ashamed..just sh!ttin myself that ill be caught.Id never in a million years drive with no insurance (honestly NEVER) but for some reason im only mildy worried about getting caught for no tax.

I hate paying it (it has to be done, i know), but i particularly HATE paying this bill when i spent €50.80 just on tolls alone last month :mad: (i cant avoid the fcukers). Im bloody broke...ALL the time!

Im so tired payin for sh!t when theres not a better alternative (35 min car drive vs 90mins bus) I dont drive a fancy car...far from it 99 Civic

So...car drivers. Always pay it, let it slide everynow and again...or never pay it?

Be very careful. Gardai stopped my mam at a checkpoint and impounded her car in April and the tax was out since December 09. They did the same to 3 other drivers on the same day. Not worth the extra money and hassle.

Cheap Thrills!

Always pay it.

Don't want any hassle with 'the fuzz' :P

skelliser

Ya, if you have gone that long without paying they will defo confiscate your car if they catch you and you will end up walking!!

not worth it imo!

An easier tax to "avoid" is the TV license.

anniehoo

skelliser wrote: »

An easier tax to "avoid" is the TV license.

The mental thing is i pay that one! Its direct debit (€13.22/mth) My priorities are all wrong i know.

Car tax wrecks my head because its the only bill thats not DD. So i let it slide...for god feckin sake. Im the worlds worst procrastinator...if i have a choice in the matter it doesnt get done.

Direct debits Car tax people F.T.W

star-pants

Also - if you do end up having to tax it - you'll have to back tax it as well afaik... so it'll cost you just as much, except a large sum all in one go.

alwaysadub

Always pay it.
The one time it wouldn't be up to date,would be the time i got stopped by a Guard on a mission.
Better to pay it than to have the car in a pound.

skelliser

lol!

when your walking home in the rain after the garda take your car you can take comfort that you contribute to Pat Kennys 800 grand a year!


and as another poster has said you will have to pay the balance anyway!

star-pants

star-pants wrote: »

Also - if you do end up having to tax it - you'll have to back tax it as well afaik... so it'll cost you just as much, except a large sum all in one go.

Just get it stamped off the road?

If you can't afford the full year get 3 months which i have just done.

Will save the hassle of paying to get it out of an impound if your caught.

Run_to_da_hills

I spent my youth riding untaxed bikes until I got caught several times and then they threw the book at me. :mad:

Funniest case was when I had a picture of Micky Mouse in the tax disk holder of a Triumph 500. It went down like a lead baloon in court.

Back then there was no such thing as ANPR cameras capable of logging your registration details into the pulse system.

In the old days you could get away with getting around for several months with out it and then get the form stamped at a barracks, not any more.

What I despise is paying dearly for this form of tax which is supposed to be for the up keep of our infrastructure and then paying it again in tolls. :mad:

star-pants

shaaane wrote: »

Just get it stamped off the road?

I don't think it's that easy to get it stamped off the road is it?
Plus if you're insured on the vehicle then surely that would give it away too? If they enquired/checked your car?

Cheap Thrills!

star-pants wrote: »

I don't think it's that easy to get it stamped off the road is it??

A main dealer has to do it. So your trusty local mechanic can't help you out there.

gbee

When you are caught your car will be instantly seized, you'll be thrown out on the road and told 'walk'.

You'll then have to pay the back TAX, The Fine, The towaway €160 plus €30 per day and after a period of that, your car is crushed and the bills are sent to collection agencies from the towing company and to the courts and possibly the sheriff from the Guards.

You could end up with no car, no furniture in your house, and a spell in Mountjoy.

Oh, and nearly forgot, some of those cameras on the flyovers are ANPR or automatic number plate recognition.

anniehoo

star-pants wrote: »

I don't think it's that easy to get it stamped off the road is it?
Plus if you're insured on the vehicle then surely that would give it away too? If they enquired/checked your car?

It is actually...once ye get over the nerves of goin into the Garda station

Ive done it twice before (both 2 months over).My sister did after 2yrs (!!!) not paid. She nearly died when they said they could could check the toll records. She cheekily laughed and said "yehhh no prob" (secretly crappin herself)..signed off no questions asked.

mink_man

just pay the tax, if there weren't roads you wouldn't be able to go anywhere at all

and I also think that people shouldn't see bad roads and say "oh we're paying tax for these and the roads should be great!" they should see good roads as a bonus..

Cheap Thrills!

gbee wrote: »

When you are caught your car will be instantly seized, you'll be thrown out on the road and told 'walk'.

You'll then have to pay the back TAX, The Fine, The towaway €160 plus €30 per day and after a period of that, your car is crushed and the bills are sent to collection agencies from the towing company and to the courts and possibly the sheriff from the Guards.

You could end up with no car, no furniture in your house, and a spell in Mountjoy.

Nice words of comfort oh prophet of Doom.

Terri26

also just so you know those parking wardens also look for tax not just to see if you have paid your parking ticket

star-pants

anniehoo wrote: »

It is actually...once ye get over the nerves of goin into the Garda station

Ive done it twice before (both 2 months over).My sister did after 2yrs (!!!) not paid. She nearly died when they said they could could check the toll records. She cheekily laughed and said "yehhh no prob" (secretly crappin herself)..signed off no questions asked.

Well tis up to you, I'm sure you know the risks you're taking / chance of not getting the car stamped off road etc.

Obviously I don't like having to pay it, but I'd rather pay it then get caught with back-tax/fines etc.

star-pants

star-pants wrote: »

I don't think it's that easy to get it stamped off the road is it?
Plus if you're insured on the vehicle then surely that would give it away too? If they enquired/checked your car?

I've done it one or twice (that means 5 times), but only since i've moved from the city to the country. The Gardaí have a completely different attitude towards it where I live now, its a case of walk in, form on the desk, stamp/signature and leave. Its rare enough they even ask why it was off the road!

skelliser

If you get it stamped as being of the road and then you get caught, then you will be in a ****storm!
Just because a garda stamps it off the road doesnt mean your in the clear, if you signed a false declaration you are guilty of an offense, such as if the car was being used and you declared it not to be.

aido 1976

I agree with the OP, had to pay mine today €164 for 3 months, killed me to pay it :mad: but in saying that with ANPR, and random spot checks (Very ofter where I am), as many others have said you are best paying it.
Because the costs will seriously mount up if your car gets impounded. And I have heard alot of it happening recently.

starbelgrade

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

A main dealer has to do it. So your trusty local mechanic can't help you out there.

Incorrect. You get it done in your local Garda station. Normally they will stamp it without any question as it is your responsibilty to ensure that all the details on the form are correct & really has nothing to do with them, unless you are stopped at a checkpoint.

I've done it loads of times & never had any bother.

Cheap Thrills!

starbelgrade wrote: »

Incorrect. You get it done in your local Garda station. Normally they will stamp it without any question as it is your responsibilty to ensure that all the details on the form are correct & really has nothing to do with them, unless you are stopped at a checkpoint.

I've done it loads of times & never had any bother.

Okie, I stand corrected. Thats good for OP then. I don't like the thoughts of her endin' up in the Joy with the sherriff's men pawing at her household goodies.

Run_to_da_hills

skelliser wrote: »

If you get it stamped as being of the road and then you get caught, then you will be in a ****storm!

Particularly if you are stupid enough too use the Westlink.

PrettyBoy

I usually get it taxed for three months and then go three months without it. When you want to get it taxed just go to the Garda station and get a stamp. I've gone 7 months without any tax. Went through two checkpoints during that time, garda never said a word to me. Tax is way too much (like everything else in this country) and I'm not going to pay it when it's just as easy to drive around without it. Some people don't mind being robbed on a daily basis but I do.

neilthefunkeone

Always pay it too.. Dont want the hassle or possible points!

Guards were taking vehicles on Fonthill road on sunday.. Must have had 4 or 5 parked up on the grass.. owners nowhere to be seen!!!

Run_to_da_hills

neilthefunkeone wrote: »

Always pay it too.. Dont want the hassle or possible points!

Guards were taking vehicles on Fonthill road on sunday.. Must have had 4 or 5 parked up on the grass.. owners nowhere to be seen!!!

They can impound any vehicle that has exceeded two months without tax.

gbee

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

They can impound any vehicle that has exceeded two months without tax.

Now, that may be correct, I believe it is; but our local radio regularly has reports of seizures within that time frame.

Run_to_da_hills

gbee wrote: »

Now, that may be correct, I believe it is; but our local radio regularly has reports of seizures within that time frame.

Their NCT was probably out some time as well, rarely hear of any car impounded wihin the two months unless the DOE / NCT was out a while.

c montgomery

I just payed mine online for the next 1 months at a cost of 450euro.

Now at the moment money is really tight for me but for me its better to pay it now and get it out of the way rather than maybe get a fine for not having it and then having to pay it.

What is really annoying me about paying it this year is the number of foreign cars in my park that are not taxed. In my park that comprises of 30 units there are a total of 26 cars. 6 of these are polish registered cars that have all been in my park for well over a year, 3 of the cars for over 2 years.
Now these cars are all over 1.8l and are all over 3 years old so each would have an annual tax of over 500 euro. Thats 3grand in tax a year being lost by the state just in my park.
There should be a revenue number that i could call to inform them of this. They could then come out and issue fines.
AFAIK the cars should be registered in ireland after 30 days and tax payed.
Just look at all the foreign cars on the road and imagine how much tax the state is missing out on. This money would easily pay for cervical cancer vaccines for girls.

SEPT 23 1989

my typical year of road tax

get three months tax Jan - March

let it run till end of april (they cant take the car off you for under one month)

get form stamped

get three months tax may - july

let in run till end of august

get form stamped

tax from september - november

get form stamped end of december

gbee

c montgomery wrote: »

This money would easily pay for cervical cancer vaccines for girls.

Well, my last €650 is coming out of my bank for my own tax this month, two days work last month an all .......

anniehoo

c montgomery wrote: »

This money would easily pay for cervical cancer vaccines for girls.

Did ye have to?

I pay every feckin tax under the bloody sun bar this one...dont bring this sh!t into it when im bein robbed left right and centre for everythin else i duly pay for.

CarrickMcJoe

Allways tax it . Drove for 1 month without it and thought every squad car was searching for me.
They have the computers to detect non payers in the cars now and when I was working for a guard he said that they use the CCTV cameras to zoom in on the parked cars on the streets to check the tax & insurance.:(

artvandulet

OP, I wouldnt be surprised if your car insurance was void without having your car taxed. Would be worth checking that! No point in paying your insurance then either!

KaiserGunner

I always pay my car tax as its not worth the hassle or penalty if you get caught. I tax it for 6 months, that way you dont feel like your paying it often like 3 months. There have been plenty of checkpoints recently, so its not worth the risk.

Jus sell the car and get another similar one.. Backtax problem gone.

artvandulet

artvandulet wrote: »

OP, I wouldnt be surprised if your car insurance was void without having your car taxed. Would be worth checking that! No point in paying your insurance then either!

Stop posting lies for no reason....

artvandulet

Nickolas Wailing Beer wrote: »

Rubbish, tax never had and never will have any effect on insurance cover.

All i said was I wouldn't be surprised. I wasn't making a statement of fact.

In saying that, I'm almost more surprised that it doesnt affect it considering it is a legal requirement to have motor tax if you want to drive your vehicle in a public place. I would have thought that if you were breaking the law whilst in a crash, your insurance may be affected. I guess not then.

Deleted User wrote: »

Stop posting lies for no reason....

woah!:eek:

Grupouva

Tax is out on my car since December 09, have no NCT either and I've been stopped loads of times and been through countless checkpoints and ive got away with it every single time. You can get away with it and there are ways around paying it.

Don't get me wrong here, im not boasting or being cocky and im not some anarchist "f*ck the system, the man is keeping me down" type. I lost my job in January and decided paying car tax is the least of my worries and the last thing ill be spending my €196 a week on.

This is how ive managed to get away with it:

Get stopped at a checkpoint, always give the garda his little power fix and go with the "yes guard, no guard, sorry guard" approach. Garda asks wheres the tax and nct? I say the cars been broken down and parked up for months, just got it fixed and back on the road today.

One of 2 possible things will then happen, he'll either say "go on, just make sure you get it taxed and nct'd"

Or

Garda asks for licence, I say I dont have it on me, he orders me to produce documents within 10 days. At the station its obviously a different guard on the desk, i dont mention anything about tax or nct just say i was asked to produce licence and insurance. Guard on the desk takes a copy of insurance cert and licence and gives me a receipt to show ive produced, and hey presto!

Now obviously i know its a bit of luck as well, the guard could happen to be a pr*ck or just in a bad mood and take the car off me on the spot. But my car is worth about €50 so im not too bothered if that did happen

starbelgrade

artvandulet wrote: »

I'm almost more surprised that it doesnt affect it considering it is a legal requirement to have motor tax if you want to drive your vehicle in a public place. I would have thought that if you were breaking the law whilst in a crash, your insurance may be affected. I guess not then.

If you break the law by speeding & have a crash, is your insurance affected? No - of course it isn't, so the same applies for car tax.

artvandulet

starbelgrade wrote: »

If you break the law by speeding & have a crash, is your insurance affected? No - of course it isn't, so the same applies for car tax.

makes sense.

Antar Bolaeisk

I always have the car taxed (just did it there again the other night, €310 for the year so not so bad I guess) but embarrassingly enough I currently have the wrong disk on the car, last years tax disk, so to any Garda looking the car would appear to be a full year without tax.

Mak_United wrote: »

If you can't afford the full year get 3 months which i have just done.

Will save the hassle of paying to get it out of an impound if your caught.

Paying in either 3 months or 6 months is such a scam, it's something like €87 for three months, €172 for six months and then €310 for the year (approximate figures)

Basically there's bugger all saving going for six months but a fairly substantial saving getting it for the year (approximately 10%) which just screws over those who only have enough to buy three months at a time. They should just pass on the 10% saving to everyone!

Grupouva

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

Allways tax it . Drove for 1 month without it and thought every squad car was searching for me.
They have the computers to detect non payers in the cars now and when I was working for a guard he said that they use the CCTV cameras to zoom in on the parked cars on the streets to check the tax & insurance.:(

Aah, that explains why they're too busy to stop the stabbings, shootings, begging, muggings and junkies shooting up on the streets or investigate the FF/Banks/Builders love triangle...

Ali Babba

You know something.....it's coming to the stage where I think a spell in prison would be a break from all the taxes i'm paying for little or no service in the present climate, i'm working twenty odd years and have nothing left now after all my effort only a few worn out joints, a fortune in payed taxes and f**k all else. If enough of us took the leap of faith OP and didn't pay anymore taxes it might sink in with the f**kers who ran this country into the ground that enough really is enough. The biggest problem we have with this country is that there are too many people willing to pay more and more taxes instead of making a stand. Don't bother replying with the lame duck excuses that if we don't pay our taxes we won't have any services, look around people, we don't have any services worthwhile only fat cat politicians, civil servants and others milking the place dry.

OutlawPete

Be very careful about going without NCT folks.

Skipping the odd month of Motor Tax cause you have a 2.0 Litre and can't afford it, is one thing, but going without renewing your NCT is another thing entirely.

Cousin of mine was one month without Tax and the NCT was two months out and they impounded her car.

They also made her pay to get her car transported to the NCT centre on the back of a truck from Kilmainham to Liffey Valley, cost her a small fortune.

Cars over nine years old now have to have an NCT every year as opposed to every two years as it had been previously.