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Roger Huerta in street fight

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    He knocked a guy out who had just beaten up a woman, deserves a medal IMO


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    MVF wrote: »
    I know this is bad for the sport

    Seriously?

    MMA is an established sport now doing upper six figure buyrates more often then not I dont think we have to worry about something like this. He may have broken some MA code but by the law of street he was totally right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭SDTimeout


    Not bad for the sport it depends on how the media go with it. Same way there was the whole CAGE FIGTHERS KILLS FAMILY.

    He does deserve a medal for hitting any scumbag who would attack a woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    rovert wrote: »
    Seriously?

    MMA is an established sport now doing upper six figure buyrates more often then not I dont think we have to worry about something like this. He may have broken some MA code but by the law of street he was totally right.


    Not some MA code but he broke the law?

    I'm not saying I don't agree with what he did but he still broke the law and him being a professional fighter will not help him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭El_Drago


    The scumbag deserved it. Whether it was an MMA fighter, baseball/football player or Joe Soap that knocked him the **** out is irrelevant.

    Edit: Stamping on the guy's head was unnecessary though.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Knocking a guy out is one thing, stamping on his head while he's knocked out is another.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Fromvert wrote: »
    Not some MA code but he broke the law?

    I'm not saying I don't agree with what he did but he still broke the law and him being a professional fighter will not help him.

    Ageed as his limbs will likely be deemed as deadly weapons in law.

    All I’m saying is that the industry is sound enough now to the degree that people don’t have to be so reactionary in labelling what is and isn’t bad for the sport at every opportunity. I’m not having a go at the OP either this is just a general point. People need to chillax once as the foundations of the sport are fairly solid in 2010.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    rovert wrote: »
    Ageed as his limbs will likely be deemed as deadly weapons in law.


    lol no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭r_obric


    Knocking a guy out is one thing, stamping on his head while he's knocked out is another.

    nowhere near as ****ty as sucker punching a woman though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    rovert wrote: »
    Ageed as his limbs will likely be deemed as deadly weapons in law.

    All I’m saying is that the industry is sound enough now to the degree that people don’t have to be so reactionary in labelling what is and isn’t bad for the sport at every opportunity. I’m not having a go at the OP either this is just a general point. People need to chillax once as the foundations of the sport are fairly solid in 2010.


    I would agree that it won't have any real damage on the sport.

    Also the fact that Huerta chased the guy down to assault him won't help him. I wouldn't be surprised if he got some jail time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    America land of the crazy, if a normal Joe knocked that guy out it there would be little said, but once a celeb is involved the neck braces and lawyers will appear.

    Stomping him on the ground was out of order !!!!!! Guess he thought it was pride fc rules :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭t-ha


    Mr.Stomp is wearing a t-shirt. Don't think it's him?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    r_obric wrote: »
    nowhere near as ****ty as sucker punching a woman though
    Correction - it's just as ****ty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    I always approve of seeing a 'hard' man being taught a lesson but cheap shots when anyone is down is the action of a thug.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 398 ✭✭Anakin.S


    Its good he stepped in to help the woman but he should of stopped once the other guy was down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    He didn't step in to help the women. The fella sucker punched her and then wandered off. She was probably in need of medical assistance. He wasn't defending her, there was (on the video) no sign that big guy was going to hit her or anyone again. He basically went on a vigilante run and beat up two guys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭MarkFairman


    Its true, the person doing the stomping is wearing a top. The report says Huerta was seen walking away shirtless.

    Probably some other tit who saw Hueta knock out the woman beater and decided he would get a kick or two in to look tough as well.

    People are very quick to jump to conclusions here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭bret69


    Its true, the person doing the stomping is wearing a top. The report says Huerta was seen walking away shirtless.

    Probably some other tit who saw Hueta knock out the woman beater and decided he would get a kick or two in to look tough as well.

    People are very quick to jump to conclusions here.

    In the original link there are 3 images, the third of which shows someone they're alleging to be Huerta doing the stomping.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Knocking a guy out is one thing, stamping on his head while he's knocked out is another.

    True but I don't think Huerta stomped him.
    He didn't step in to help the women. The fella sucker punched her and then wandered off. She was probably in need of medical assistance. He wasn't defending her, there was (on the video) no sign that big guy was going to hit her or anyone again. He basically went on a vigilante run and beat up two guys.

    Ah here. It was 5 seconds later, very much the heat of the moment. How many people here honestly wouldn't have done the same? I doubt I'd have been able to control my temper and I doubt I'd have wanted to. Also, he was the only person who was going to step in, everyone else typically stood there looking at him. and the guy was twice the size of him.

    Vigilanteism would surely be more along the lines of calling around to his house the next day.
    Its true, the person doing the stomping is wearing a top. The report says Huerta was seen walking away shirtless.

    Probably some other tit who saw Hueta knock out the woman beater and decided he would get a kick or two in to look tough as well.

    People are very quick to jump to conclusions here.

    This.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    He could have beat the crap out that guy without stomping on his head. Pathetic by Huerta


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    unknown13 wrote: »
    He could have beat the crap out that guy without stomping on his head. Pathetic by Huerta

    Did you read the thread? He not have stomped him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Shazbot


    rovert wrote: »
    Did you read the thread? He not have stomped him.

    I think it was. In the video and still image on the site it looks like him. There isn't a T-shirt on the guy stomping him. If you look closely at the image you can make out Huertas distinct arm/shoulder tattoo.

    He was right to confront the guy, everyone else just stood and watched a guy walk away from KOing a woman. He was right to KO him, his point was made. He didn't need to stomp on an unconcious guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    The guy doing the stomping looks to be wearing a grey t-shirt so I don't think it was Huerta.

    If that's the case there's not much more to say, the video doesnt show what Huerta actually did do so its all pointless speculation.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Its true, the person doing the stomping is wearing a top. The report says Huerta was seen walking away shirtless.

    Probably some other tit who saw Hueta knock out the woman beater and decided he would get a kick or two in to look tough as well.

    People are very quick to jump to conclusions here.

    Exactly, i read the first page before even watching the video and the first thing i noticed was somebody wearing a top doing the stomp while Roger took his top off earlier in the clip......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Shazbot


    The guy doing the stomping looks to be wearing a grey t-shirt so I don't think it was Huerta.

    Look at the third image on the link. Clearly a person with no top on, shaded area on the left shoulder/arm is his tattoo. Also wearing baggy jeans.
    If that's the case there's not much more to say, the video doesnt show what Huerta actually did do so its all pointless speculation.

    The video might not be clear cut but there are dozens of witnesses, to say it's speculation is foolish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    My 2 cents on this is the big guy sucker punching the woman is a complete coward!

    Huerta gave him EXACTLY what he deserved. Whether or not he was defending the woman or not, i don't care. The guy absolutely destroyed that woman with a punch and walked away! SCUMBAG!

    Huerta gave him a smashing and good enough for him.

    PS: It obviously wasn't Huerta who did the stomping. Stomping would be too far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭seadnamac


    I think it is Huerta that does the stomping. You can clearly see his tattoo in that image, what looks like a t-shirt I think is just lighting/shading from the street lights. Also if you freeze the video at 1:11 you can see a man, most likely the stomper, standing over the man on the ground, he is not wearing a t-shirt and looks like Heurta.

    I have no sympathy for that guy who assualted that woman. It's easy for us to judge, maybe Roger got carried away and went a step too far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    seadnamac wrote: »
    I think it is Huerta that does the stomping. You can clearly see his tattoo in that image, what looks like a t-shirt I think is just lighting/shading from the street lights. Also if you freeze the video at 1:11 you can see a man, most likely the stomper, standing over the man on the ground, he is not wearing a t-shirt and looks like Heurta.

    I have no sympathy for that guy who assualted that woman. It's easy for us to judge, maybe Roger got carried away and went a step too far.

    Absolutely, but he's still not the biggest villain of the piece!

    What he did was nowhere near as bad as what Roger's "victim" did!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭roo1981


    Seeing the british press found the two MMA fighters dressed in drag beating the crud out of some chavs that started on them pretty hilarious, I think Huerta will get nothing but props for this (rightly so too)

    War Machines antics are far worse.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Watched the video again. Not the still but the video. As the slow mo shows the dude stomping the guy, you can see roger by the far kerb almost directly behind the stomper on that angle. Just before it kicks off a 3rd guy hits the woman beater, I think its the same guy who stomps him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭seadnamac


    Watched the video again. Not the still but the video. As the slow mo shows the dude stomping the guy, you can see roger by the far kerb almost directly behind the stomper on that angle. Just before it kicks off a 3rd guy hits the woman beater, I think its the same guy who stomps him.

    I really can't make that out at all. It sure looks like his tattoo in the still and it looks like him standing over the man at 1:11. But anyway, there's no way anyone can be certain from the video and images.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    seadnamac wrote: »
    I really can't make that out at all. It sure looks like his tattoo in the still and it looks like him standing over the man at 1:11. But anyway, there's no way anyone can be certain from the video and images.


    I'd agree with this.


    This is what Heurta has said about it. He says he left once he got the better of him. Taken from BJ Penn.com

    "I approached the man calmly and said, "Do you know what you just did? You just knocked out this girl. [And he responded] "F*ck you, f*ck these bitches, I'll knock out any f*ckin' bitch that I wanna f*ckin' knock out, I'll knock your f*cking bitch ass out... and as he's saying this, he's taking off his shirt ... and at that point I was like, alright. [He} started swinging at me. I got the better of him and I left... If that was my mom, if that was my sister, my spouse, anyone ... I would've wanted someone to step in and do something about it."


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