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What do you guys think of the .xxx top-level domain idea?

  • 04-08-2010 3:02am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭


    Basically there is this guy, who owns the .xxx top-level domain. By that I mean like .com or .ie he own the rights to the .xxx and can open up his own registry for it.

    His idea is that every porn site should be moved to the .xxx domain, thereby if parents want to block all pornography from their kids computers all they have to do is block the .xxx sub-domain. You could also ask your ISP not to supply it.

    I think it's a brilliant idea, and could help the young people not get so perverted from the Internet......like I did. :)

    Anyway, thoughts? Criticism?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭hello932


    block pron? why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    Dunno how feasible it'd be, but could be a good idea if it worked properly.

    Not that i'd be blocking it mind :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    If implemented correctly then it is a good idea.

    If i was a young-un I'd be crying, but since I'm old enough I say fùck the youth...............mwa-hahahahahah!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    that is a great idea, nice thinking there ;)
    unfortunately the internet is an unregulated behomoth, and there's probaly millions of porn sites to buy up, cant see it happening


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I would block Asian porn. All those pixilated genitals & strange female Asian moaning makes it fairly pointless.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭karlog


    99% of the internet is porn how do you block that?


  • Moderators Posts: 8,754 ✭✭✭x PyRo


    Porn should be automatically made a browsers homepage, IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    hello932 wrote: »
    block pron? why?

    If you don't know then do some reading, or better get your kids to watch it so they can know why you don't know why


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    old_aussie wrote: »
    If you don't know then do some reading, or better get your kids to watch it so they can know why you don't know why

    It was my kids who showed me how to look up porn in the first place! Little bastards, corrupting my mind...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    but since I'm old enough I say fùck the youth........

    Not that type of porn you sick fúck!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    Wouldn't it just be easier to move the non-porn?



    On a serious note. It will never work completely. Although the major porn producers/distributors would move, you would still be stuck with the non-regulated porn and mixed content sites. There are lots of sites that would have a lot of non-porn content, but with some element of porn included. I mean, would you force amazon to move to .xxx? What about eBay etc?

    Likewise, what about user-content and WEB 2.0? Anywhere a user is free to write what they want or post pictures/videos would be a minefield. Should boards be moved to the .xxx due to the content of After Hours and Sex & Sexuality etc?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    So this guy who owns the entire superdomain thinks it might be a good idea if every pornographer on Earth paid him money in order to use it, does he?

    Quite the well-meaning philanthropist.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    kjl wrote: »
    Basically there is this guy, who owns the .xxx top-level domain. By that I mean like .com or .ie he own the rights to the .xxx and can open up his own registry for it.

    His idea is that every porn site should be moved to the .xxx domain, thereby if parents want to block all pornography from their kids computers all they have to do is block the .xxx sub-domain. You could also ask your ISP not to supply it.

    I think it's a brilliant idea, and could help the young people not get so perverted from the Internet......like I did. :)

    Anyway, thoughts? Criticism?

    Who is this guy that owns the "xxx" domain? :confused:
    I ask because the board of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (The ICANN) only voted and subsequently created the XXX domain in June!
    ICM Registry, the company that proposed the dot-XXX domain, welcomed the vote.
    "It's been a long time coming," ICM Chairman Stuart Lawley said in a statement, adding that he is "excited" by the move.
    "The decision should soon bring to fruition our six-year effort to create a specific Web address for online adult entertainment, and comes on the heels of an independent review that declared that ICANN's previous decision to deny dot-xxx was wrong," he said.
    Source: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/199851/icann_board_approves_dotxxx_toplevel_domain_for_porn.html

    So I seriously doubt that having spent many, many years fighting over the creation of the xxx domain that they (ICANN) then within a month went off and just sold it to one man!


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    karlog wrote: »
    99% of the internet is porn how do you block that?



    "I'm pretty sure that if they took porn off the internet, there'd only be one website left, and it would be called 'Bring Back the Porn'."

    Perry Cox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    kjl wrote: »
    Basically there is this guy, who owns the .xxx top-level domain.
    His idea is that every porn site should be moved to the .xxx domain
    Clever guy.


    Hmm, I can't find anything about this alleged owner, can you OP?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Leaving aside this mystical figure that now "owns" the xxx domain...

    America (alone and far outnumbered) has been fighting against this domain creation alone for very obvious reason.
    They claim that if all porn is regulated to be placed within this domain extension that it will be far, far easier for the escaping porn items to be found, blocked, filtered, etc.
    They are worried about loss of revenue and not without reason.
    However now it looks like they lost the first battle for the creation of the domain, now the next battle by some, will be to stop further regulation to make porn sites move to this area of net addresses alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    In all seriousness, how much of the internet is actually porn (don't want to google it)? 99% seems a bit high to me. I'd guess somewhere around 87%.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    bonerm wrote: »
    In all seriousness, how much of the internet is actually porn (don't want to google it)? 99% seems a bit high to me. I'd guess somewhere around 87%.
    http://www.asylum.com/2010/06/29/optenet-nearly-40-percent-of-the-internet-is-porn/

    However some say different for personal reasons: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/15/1325202


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭Donny5


    bonerm wrote: »
    In all seriousness, how much of the internet is actually porn (don't want to google it)? 99% seems a bit high to me. I'd guess somewhere around 87%.

    The last time anyone tried to count was 2003, and 12% of websites were pornographic. 7 years is an aeon in internet terms, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,885 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    I think it's an excellent idea. It'd probably put those net-nannies out of a job but if it makes things easier for parents then that's fine with me.

    Also your man will be buying a Ferrari 458 Italia if this goes ahead!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Donny5 wrote: »
    The last time anyone tried to count was 2003, and 12% of websites were pornographic. 7 years is an aeon in internet terms, though.
    Very true so I'd go with the 40%+ region rather than a much lesser figure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭Donny5


    Also your man will be buying a Ferrari 458 Italia if this goes ahead!

    The OP's man doesn't exist. ICANN, the big corporation that takes care of the top level domains did authorise the creation of .xxx, but there isn't one guy who owns it and the domain will be there for anyone who wants to register one. There won't be a requirment to move all porn to .xxx domains or any waffle like that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I think this BBC news item sums it up nicely: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4602449.stm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    dotsman wrote: »
    On a serious note. It will never work completely. Although the major porn producers/distributors would move, you would still be stuck with the non-regulated porn and mixed content sites. There are lots of sites that would have a lot of non-porn content, but with some element of porn included. I mean, would you force amazon to move to .xxx? What about eBay etc?
    Actually, it would never work because it would require the porn sites themselves to fall in line.

    They could have a .xxx domain, but knowing that they would be cutting off a source of revenue, they would hold onto their .com, .org., net, etc anyway and the benefit of the xxx domain would be lost.

    There is nothing to stop a website having 500 different domain names all pointing at the same site. Unless ICANN decide that there needs to be rules on who can and cannot get .com, .org etc domain names, then porn sites will continue to get those.

    ICANN will not change the rules on these domains, that horse has well and truely bolted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭Donny5


    Biggins wrote: »
    Very true so I'd go with the 40%+ region rather than a much lesser figure.

    I don't know if I'd agree. Back in 2003, the web was mostly static. Nowadays, there's so much user generated content: social networking, an explosion in fora, youtube, and so on. I'd find it hard to believe that the growth in pornography had kept pace, so if I had to guess, I'd say less than 12% today.

    There's only one way to solve this. If someone can donate a few dozen thousand dollars for EC2 instances, I'll write a crawler to search for all the porn on the internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Biggins wrote: »
    Who is this guy that owns the "xxx" domain? :confused:
    I ask because the board of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (The ICANN) only voted and subsequently created the XXX domain in June!
    ICM Registry, the company that proposed the dot-XXX domain, welcomed the vote.
    "It's been a long time coming," ICM Chairman Stuart Lawley said in a statement, adding that he is "excited" by the move.
    "The decision should soon bring to fruition our six-year effort to create a specific Web address for online adult entertainment, and comes on the heels of an independent review that declared that ICANN's previous decision to deny dot-xxx was wrong," he said.

    Source: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/199851/icann_board_approves_dotxxx_toplevel_domain_for_porn.html

    So I seriously doubt that having spent many, many years fighting over the creation of the xxx domain that they (ICANN) then within a month went off and just sold it to one man!
    The only reason I would be against this would be if prudish people* decided to force ISPs to block the domain from a country.

    Aside from that, I can see the good sides, such as blocking kids from getting access to porn. They can then surf safely without bloated software blocking them from sites that are safe, but get blocked for some nonsensical reason or another. Curse words being one. They learn the crap in the schoolyard anyway.

    *The Irish government and their cronies.
    Yes, I know there are ways around this, but I'm lazy and don't like using proxies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    cant believe this is 2 pages in and i'm the first requesting of the OP...

    PICS OR GTFO!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭Xios


    But what about 4chan.org? Where would they go :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Xios wrote: »
    But what about 4chan.org? Where would they go :(
    Hell, with all the other paedos.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    .xxx is the only domain I'd allow on my computer tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭Xios


    Terry wrote: »
    Hell, with all the other paedos.

    lol, just sayin, there's gray areas, kids will always find ways around these things. So why make mr. .xxx a multi-millionaire, i'm quite sure the pron industry won't take kindly to this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Xios wrote: »
    lol, just sayin, there's gray areas, kids will always find ways around these things. So why make mr. .xxx a multi-millionaire, i'm quite sure the pron industry won't take kindly to this.

    1. There is no "Mr. xxx"
    2. No site will be forced to use the xxx domain or drop their current one.
    3. As Seamus pointed out 4chan.org could stay the same and if they wanted could also use 4chan.xxx to point to the same website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    karlog wrote: »
    99% of the internet is porn how do you block that?

    According to QI only 1% of the internet is porn!
    Personaly I think they got distracted while counting though:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    Sorry folks, heard the story from a friend, so obviously got a bit Chinese whispered along the line. It was Icann who are setting this up.

    <Dame u sean, making me look bad :)>


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    cant believe this is 2 pages in and i'm the first requesting of the OP...

    PICS OR GTFO!

    Maybe you should take the hint that that hasn't been funny in a long, long time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    Meh..
    What the hell difference is it going to make?

    There is no way that every site will move to .XXX
    In fact I doubt that even 5% will.

    It's a new domain, go for it.
    But don't actually expect it to change a single thing about the interwebs.

    It Just sounds like clever marketing and advertising for the domain to me..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Biggins wrote: »
    Who is this guy that owns the "xxx" domain? :confused:
    ShooterSF wrote: »
    1. There is no "Mr. xxx"

    Vin diesel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    This thread has made me want to watch some porn.
    Back in 3 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Terry wrote: »
    This thread has made me want to watch some porn.
    Back in 3 minutes.


    That's a long 3 minutes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Crow92


    According to QI less than 1% of the net is made from pron.

    Most is SPAM Spam SpAm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    Crow92 wrote: »
    According to QI less than 1% of the net is made from pron.

    Most is SPAM Spam SpAm

    A lot of spam* involves Porn,
    I normally trust QI about stuff like that.. but no way.
    There is LOAAAADS of porn on the interwebs.. It has to be more than 1%

    *In Before the monty python video gets posted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    I would block Asian porn. All those pixilated genitals & strange female Asian moaning makes it fairly pointless.

    do they not know how to shave?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    I would block Asian porn. All those pixilated genitals & strange female Asian moaning makes it fairly pointless.

    Screeching more like.
    Absolutely ruins it.
    Yoko Ono has nothing on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Wazdakka wrote: »
    A lot of spam* involves Porn,
    I normally trust QI about stuff like that.. but no way.
    There is LOAAAADS of porn on the interwebs.. It has to be more than 1%

    *In Before the monty python video gets posted.

    Mightn't be that far of in site content, but I'd say time spent may be far higher.

    Take America, 25% spend their time on social networking sites, Facebook has 84%, Twitter only 1%, so there is probably some anomaly going on there.

    Games after that, 10%. E-mail, instant messaging are popular too.

    Other is 34%, so it is probably all that! ;)

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Steodonn


    And if someone dosent want to move to it they just go host the porn in some other country that dident pass the law

    Kids will get around it by proxies

    It would be unenforceable and pointless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    The owner is a Nigerian prince. I just bought www.boards.xxx from him for $5000. A great price as I think it's worth 5 times that amount. Just think....a pornographic version of boards.ie !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    The owner is a Nigerian prince. I just bought www.boards.xxx from him for $5000. A great price as I think it's worth 5 times that amount. Just think....a pornographic version of boards.ie !!

    You could only get that if you owned boards.com

    <Quote>
    Pre-owned

    You may apply on behalf of your clients that are members of the Sponsored Community
    for domains in .xxx that they already own in .com, .net or another ICANN recognized
    TLD, such as a country code TLD. You must currently manage these domains on behalf
    of your client. This process is called Name Reservation.


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