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HUGE BOMB BLAST ROCKS DERRY @ 3.30AM

  • 03-08-2010 05:36AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭


    We"ll hear more later, but it was a big bomb, Im working 5 miles away,
    and it was a mighty noise.333


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭derra_121


    Hope no one was hurt.. but if it was heard 5 miles away im sure it was big...

    Nothing on RTE or BBC yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭PomBear


    From what i've heard, it was Strand Road Barracks that was bombed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭pablo_escobar


    let me get this straight..

    the people setting off these bombs want british soldiers back on streets of northern ireland? correct?

    i guess with all those builders out of work, they needed something to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    There you go.

    A taxi is destroyed a few businesses damaged and a bit of the PSNI's wall is broken.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-10848505

    A car bomb has exploded outside a police station in Londonderry.

    A taxi driver was forced to bring the device to Strand Road police station early on Tuesday by two hijackers, one of whom was carrying a gun.
    Dissident republicans

    It exploded at about 0320 BST. No-one was injured. The explosion damaged the police station's perimeter wall.

    SDLP Mayor of Derry Colm Eastwood said nearby buildings had been badly damaged and blamed dissident republicans for the attack.

    "There seems to be a lot of wreckage; the car is completely destroyed and it seems businesses across the street have been destroyed as well," he said.

    "Police didn't even have time to evacuate a nursing home or apartments right beside the police station.

    "We are very lucky today not to be talking about fatalities. It's an attack not just on the police but the entire community."

    In May, a mortar bomb was fired at the same police station. It struck a wall but failed to explode.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    let me get this straight..

    the people setting off these bombs want british soldiers back on streets of northern ireland? correct?

    Yes, thats the aim of the dissidents! :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Yes, thats the aim of the dissidents! :rolleyes:

    Its certainly what will happen though also it won't take much for the loyalist faction to start up again. I really despair at times


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Its certainly what will happen though also it won't take much for the loyalist faction to start up again. I really despair at times

    I agree, but I equally despair at people whose understanding of the conflict in the 6 counties is that the dissidents aim is to bring soldiers onto Irish streets. Its actually difficult to get it that wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    I agree, but I equally despair at people whose understanding of the conflict in the 6 counties is that the dissidents aim is to bring soldiers onto Irish streets. Its actually difficult to get it that wrong?

    I agree but I think he was being sarcastic I could be very very wrong though it won't be the first time :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    So what is the aim of the 'so called' dissidents? everyone despises them, they have zero support, and everydody is confused about their aims :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭dan_d


    Nobody has a fecking clue, but I'd lay money that a large number of them are stupid little boys, who weren't even alive during the Troubles, and are running around trying to be big men in the name of the "Republic".

    More worrying however is who's organising them.I'd imagine they can't gun-smuggle or run drugs much anymore, since the IRA is disbanded.Probably trying to get their revenue stream back on line again. And I say this with all seriousness.Can't they take a hint and get out? We don't want them, and the North certainly doesn't. Where do they think they're going with this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,952 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    I agree, but I equally despair at people whose understanding of the conflict in the 6 counties is that the dissidents aim is to bring soldiers onto Irish streets. Its actually difficult to get it that wrong?

    Wouldnt British soldiers on the streets give their campaign more 'legitimacy' in that they could claim to be fighting an occupying force?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    LordSutch wrote: »
    So what is the aim of the 'so called' dissidents? everyone despises them, they have zero support, and everydody is confused about their aims :confused:

    Come on out of that. Regardless of their popular support, where some clearly exists, its very obvious what their aims are.

    Unless the concept of physical force Republicanism is a new one on you as you have lived in a cave since 1798?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Wouldnt British soldiers on the streets give their campaign more 'legitimacy' in that they could claim to be fighting an occupying force?

    British soldiers never left the streets though. Isn't that half the problem? The political peace hasn't necessarily translated onto the ground, and for right or wrong, there are still people who are willing to take the war to the Brits.

    At one level, there will always be an IRA of some description active while the occupation continues, but what is worrying is the age of some of these activists. 17 year olds are not oppressed any more, so this is ideological in nature which means the provisional movement are losing the strategic argument on the ground.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    dan_d wrote: »
    Nobody has a fecking clue, but I'd lay money that a large number of them are stupid little boys, who weren't even alive during the Troubles, and are running around trying to be big men in the name of the "Republic".

    More worrying however is who's organising them.I'd imagine they can't gun-smuggle or run drugs much anymore, since the IRA is disbanded.Probably trying to get their revenue stream back on line again. And I say this with all seriousness.Can't they take a hint and get out? We don't want them, and the North certainly doesn't. Where do they think they're going with this?

    Christ on a honda, is that seriously your anaylsis?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    At one level, there will always be an IRA of some description active while the occupation continues .

    The occupation being the unionist people, or what?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    LordSutch wrote: »
    The occupation being the unionist majority, or what?

    I'm not here to defend them, the opposite in fact. But there seems to be an air of surprise that there will be an ideological rump who will always fight a British military presence in Ireland.

    The only interesting thing about it to me is the age profile.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    I'm not here to defend them, the opposite in fact. But there seems to be an air of surprise that there will be an ideological rump who will always fight a British military presence in Ireland.

    What military presence? do you mean the 'peace time' garrison ???

    Don't forget that Northern Ireland is an integral part of the United Kingdom, and as such, it is quite right that a military presence is retained in that region of the UK. Those who wish to attack the military (& Police) are fighting against the will of the people North & South, who agreed on the the Good Friday Agreement (1998).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    LordSutch wrote: »
    What military presence? do you mean the 'peace time' garrison ???

    Don't forget that Northern Ireland is an integral part of the United Kingdom, and as such, it is quite right that a military presence is retained in that region of the UK. Those who wish to attack the military (& Police) are fighting against the will of the people North & South, who agreed on the the Good Friday Agreement (1998).

    I think you will find that is disputed.... :rolleyes:

    Come on, get real. The idea that there are people who are willing to take up arms against the British army to remove them from Ireland cannot be a new one on you.

    Rights or wrongs of the stance are irrelevant. You appear to be in shock at the concept.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    LordSutch wrote: »
    What military presence? do you mean the 'peace time' garrison ???

    Don't forget that Northern Ireland is an integral part of the United Kingdom, and as such, it is quite right that a military presence is retained in that region of the UK. Those who wish to attack the military (& Police) are fighting against the will of the people North & South, who agreed on the the Good Friday Agreement (1998).

    'the north' is Irish land, until we get it back there wont be peace unfortunately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Well of course if you two disagree with the very foundation of the 1998 agreement, then everything is still up for grabs!

    So let the Bombs continue . . .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    LordSutch wrote: »
    So what is the aim of the 'so called' dissidents? everyone despises them, they have zero support, and everydody is confused about their aims :confused:
    well that is obviously not true, they would not be able to get away with what they are doing if they had zero support.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Taxi drivers really don't deserve to be turned into human bombs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Well of course if you two disagree with the very foundation of the 1998 agreement, then everything is still up for grabs!

    So let the Bombs continue . . .

    I agree - there was major opposition from within Republicanism to the GFA and its copper fastening of partition. They believe PSF have sold their souls and are taking the mantle on. Is this news?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    I agree - there was major opposition from within Republicanism to the GFA and its copper fastening of partition. They believe PSF have sold their souls and are taking the mantle on. Is this news?

    Its not news, but its a real sh1tty outlook for the future :mad:

    Cant these wannabe 'Rambo's' catch themselves on, get some jobs, & become part of civilised society?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭pablo_escobar


    I agree, but I equally despair at people whose understanding of the conflict in the 6 counties is that the dissidents aim is to bring soldiers onto Irish streets. Its actually difficult to get it that wrong?

    Well, excuse me, but what exactly is the aim? and where does this dissident group expect to get support on the level of 40 years ago?

    Why didn't they just throw a fire cracker at the barracks last night? would probably have bigger impact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Well, excuse me, but what exactly is the aim? and where does this dissident group expect to get support on the level of 40 years ago?

    The aim is to force a British withdrawl.

    I have no idea what their strategy for support is, I don't back them
    Why didn't they just throw a fire cracker at the barracks last night? would probably have bigger impact.

    Would it really? Would we be talking about them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,356 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The thing about this to me is these bombs are being set off without the aim to kill as such. If they wanted to kill people with these bombs, they could probably manage that. It seems like they want to reintensify the situation without causing any loss of human life that they know would turn opinion quite violently against them, it's already against them but it would backlash in a way that the decent people of N.I. nationalist, unionist with find these people and string them up. They want the soldiers back on the street to polarise the communities once again in an overt way and then maybe they'll be back to the "Good 'ol days"......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    briany wrote: »
    The thing about this to me is these bombs are being set off without the aim to kill as such. If they wanted to kill people with these bombs, they could probably manage that. It seems like they want to reintensify the situation without causing any loss of human life that they know would turn opinion quite violently against them, it's already against them but it would backlash in a way that the decent people of N.I. nationalist, unionist with find these people and string them up. They want the soldiers back on the street to polarise the communities once again in an overt way and then maybe they'll be back to the "Good 'ol days"......

    Yeah was thinking that myself. No real point in bombing a bomb proof police station.

    Also they've been targeting Catholic police officers. Reckon that's to avoid a loyalist response at this point. Figure they think they'll get the blame for that.

    Maybe if they keep this kinda thing up nationalists will start getting harassed by security forces. Then end up supporting millitant republicans.

    Though I really don't think it is possible to mount a guerrilla war in a western country these days. Too much technology and general apathy from the public. They should really just admit defeat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69



    Though I really don't think it is possible to mount a guerrilla war in a western country these days. Too much technology and general apathy from the public. They should really just admit defeat

    Armed struggle as a tactic is not viable in this country. Simple as. Organisations like this would be better off trying to construct a political alternative for working-class Irish people rather than jumping out of the shadows every few months to pull off yet another ineffectual operation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




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