Samsung Galaxy s. V Htc Desire

t.henno66

Can you knowledgeable lot help me out. I need a phone asap, should i get the samsung or wait for the desire. Never had a touch screen phone before so it's a whole new world for me.
What does one have that the other doesn't

Thanks

cnocbui

The Galaxy is available now. GSM Arena have a nice compare phone specs function:

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3115&idPhone2=3077

They also have in-depth reviews of both phones.

The Galaxy is the second highest ranked phone, going by votes on that site. The Desire ranks third.

They are both very good phones in truth. It will probably boil down to how soon 'asap' is for you, as the Desire seems to be hard to get hold of at the moment.

Automan

There does not seem to be a lot between them, Im going to wait for the Desire to come back into stock and get one, I was in the CPW during the week and found the Galaxy S to be to big in my hand and would find it difficult to type with one hand, also preferred the look of the desire.

In this review the reviewer cannot pick a winner:

http://www.mobileshop.com/blog/mobile-phone-blogs/htc-desire-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-the-uber-powerful-showdown/

In this review the Desire beats both Iphone 4 and Galaxy S:

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/htc-desire-vs-iphone-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-702739?artc_pg=9

t.henno66

cnocbui wrote: »

The Galaxy is available now. GSM Arena have a nice compare phone specs function:

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3115&idPhone2=3077

They also have in-depth reviews of both phones.

The Galaxy is the second highest ranked phone, going by votes on that site. The Desire ranks third.

They are both very good phones in truth. It will probably boil down to how soon 'asap' is for you, as the Desire seems to be hard to get hold of at the moment.

Brilliant comparison site, thanks

Automan wrote: »

There does not seem to be a lot between them, Im going to wait for the Desire to come back into stock and get one, I was in the CPW during the week and found the Galaxy S to be to big in my hand and would find it difficult to type with one hand, also preferred the look of the desire.

In this review the reviewer cannot pick a winner:

http://www.mobileshop.com/blog/mobile-phone-blogs/htc-desire-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-the-uber-powerful-showdown/

In this review the Desire beats both Iphone 4 and Galaxy S:

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/htc-desire-vs-iphone-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-702739?artc_pg=9

Going by cnocbui's post i decided on the samsung but now i'm confused again :-)

5500

Can anyone with a galaxy S confirm if it has a T9 keyboard for texting or just qwerty?

cnocbui

t.henno66 wrote: »

Brilliant comparison site, thanks



Going by cnocbui's post i decided on the samsung but now i'm confused again :-)

Use the 'force', Luke.

eireal wrote: »

Can anyone with a galaxy S confirm if it has a T9 keyboard for texting or just qwerty?

If you follow that link I gave above to the specs, you will see the galaxy is said to have T9.

t.henno66

I got the samsung, does anyone know if it should come with a memory card as there's not one with it and the seal on the box was broken

tibor

Galaxy S doesn't come sd card, but has either 8 or 16 GB internal memory depending on the model.

t.henno66

tibor wrote: »

Galaxy S doesn't come sd card, but has either 8 or 16 GB internal memory depending on the model.

Ok, it's just saying "warning not enough memory" when i put the camera on. I haven't loaded anything onto it yet

partyatmygaff

t.henno66 wrote: »

Ok, it's just saying "warning not enough memory" when i put the camera on. I haven't loaded anything onto it yet

To be honest, you should have got the Desire. The hardware differences are worthless compared to the quality and support of the Desire.

Oafley Jones

t.henno66 wrote: »

Brilliant comparison site, thanks

Beware of GSMarena when comparing specs as they're frequently wrong.

cnocbui

partyatmygaff wrote: »

To be honest, you should have got the Desire. The hardware differences are worthless compared to the quality and support of the Desire.

To be honest, he made the right choice and purchased the superior phone.

partyatmygaff

cnocbui wrote: »

To be honest, he made the right choice and purchased the superior phone.

I could say a drag car with 1000HP is "superior" relative to a Ferrari. When my 1000HP dragster has issues, i'm on my own. When my Ferrari has issues, I'll have the full support of Ferrari (And to a certain extent other Ferrari owners).

All it really has over the Desire is it's PowerVR GPU which to be quite honest is a waste since even the most GPU intensive games are optimised to run well on the Nexus One (And such the Desire). The Desire however benefits from...

-Sense UI
-FAR Better software support from HTC
-FAR bigger developer community
-Camera Flash
-USB On-The-Go (With a Kernel mod)
-Better build quality (Subjective but nevertheless anyone who has held the two knows what i'm on about)

Even look here on boards. This entire subforum consists almost entirely out of HTC devices with the Desire, Hero and Nexus One forming the majority of the posters.

ixtlan

partyatmygaff wrote: »

All it really has over the Desire is it's PowerVR GPU which to be quite honest is a waste ...

To be fair it also has a SuperAMOLED 4" screen, which every single review I've read has raved about...

Ix

evolutionqy7

so what for the amoled screen? new desire has super lcd screen better colours and better battery life...really the poor quality of samsung doesnt compare to the build quality of HTC phones!!

Oafley Jones

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

so what for the amoled screen? new desire has super lcd screen better colours and better battery life...really the poor quality of samsung doesnt compare to the build quality of HTC phones!!

The Galaxy has S-AMOLED screens, they're a marked improvement over the standard AMOLED fair, but then again I'm sure that the tiresome "Android is only worthy on the HTC Desire brigade" will find some way to mark it down as a disadvantage.

partyatmygaff

Oafley Jones wrote: »

The Galaxy has S-AMOLED screens, they're a marked improvement over the standard AMOLED fair, but then again I'm sure that the tiresome "Android is only worthy on the HTC Desire brigade" will find some way to mark it down as a disadvantage.

The Super AMOLED IS better than regular AMOLED but the primary advantage is it's visibility under direct sunlight. With the amount of sunlight we get over here that and the GPU are not enough to make me think the Galaxy S is better.--

meathgal2010

t.henno66 wrote: »

Ok, it's just saying "warning not enough memory" when i put the camera on. I haven't loaded anything onto it yet

You need to go to settings , sd card and storage and mount sd card, then you will have 8GB internal memory. ...... Excellent phone I love mine!

meathgal2010

partyatmygaff wrote: »

The Super AMOLED IS better than regular AMOLED but the primary advantage is it's visibility under direct sunlight. With the amount of sunlight we get over here that and the GPU are not enough to make me think the Galaxy S is better.--

Well for less money you might as well get the Galaxy S then with the better screen .... just in case it sunny

Oafley Jones

partyatmygaff wrote: »

The Super AMOLED IS better than regular AMOLED but the primary advantage is it's visibility under direct sunlight. With the amount of sunlight we get over here that and the GPU are not enough to make me think the Galaxy S is better.--

Seriously PAMG you're as bad as any iPhone fanboy I've met.

partyatmygaff

meathgal2010 wrote: »

Well for less money you might as well get the Galaxy S then with the better screen .... just in case it sunny

Sorry but sunlight readability ranks quite a bit lower on my list than features like Flash or developer support.

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Seriously PAMG you're as bad as any iPhone fanboy I've met.

iPhone Fanboys don't give factual reasons. I do


Getting a powerful phone that lacks so many necessities like Flash and proper developer support just doesn't appeal to me. If you don't use your camera much and don't plan on doing much if any modding on your phone than the Galaxy S would be the better choice. As for me, I mod my phone to bits and HTC phones are far better documented than Samsung when it comes to Android.

Mad_Mike

Over 20 firmwares available for the Galaxy S so far, including the most recent Froyo ROMs...... I wouldn't exactly call that lacking in proper developer support.

As somebody who owns both phones in question, I love the 2 of them and each has advantages and disadvantages, but ultimately I think if I had to decide, I would keep the Desire.

As for modding my phones, I have flashed the Galaxy about 7 times at this stage and the most recent I9000XXJP3 (Froyo) file is one of the best out there. Totally did away with menu and screen lags, market lags etc etc.

The HTC Desire on the other hand, even though there are more home cooked ROM's available, has not been touched since I got it. That in itself I think is testament to the fact, that as far as an "out of the box" experience goes, the Desire is ultimately a better phone.

cnocbui

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Sorry but sunlight readability ranks quite a bit lower on my list than features like Flash or developer support.


iPhone Fanboys don't give factual reasons. I do


Getting a powerful phone that lacks so many necessities like Flash and proper developer support just doesn't appeal to me. If you don't use your camera much and don't plan on doing much if any modding on your phone than the Galaxy S would be the better choice. As for me, I mod my phone to bits and HTC phones are far better documented than Samsung when it comes to Android.

Have you seen the video comparing Quake 2 being played on a Galaxy vs a Desire? The Galaxy plays it fine while the Desire is unplayable.

http://gizmodo.com/5580123/quake-2-test-htc-desire-vs-samsung-galaxy-s

Have you seen the video comparing the view-ability of the screens of the Desire and Galaxy in direct sunlight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58gZzqvqhRk

If you were outside on a sunny day trying to play quake 2 on a Desire, and someone rocked up and started palying it on his Galaxy, your willie would shrivel.

Flash? 2.2 running Flash 10.1 on a Galaxy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY2AsoVRywk

Want any more 'facts'?

They are both good phones. Telling someone who opts for a Galaxy that they have made a bad decision and bought an inferior device is plain stupid, which is the only reason I can be bothered with this.

I don't own either a Galaxy or a Desire, or even a Android phone, so I have no personal stake in this.

partyatmygaff

Mad_Mike wrote: »

Over 20 firmwares available for the Galaxy S so far, including the most recent Froyo ROMs...... I wouldn't exactly call that lacking in proper developer support.

That's not what I meant. There are plenty of active low level kernel development projects on the Desire like the USB Host mod as a prominent example. There's even a guide that shows the correct way to compile a Desire kernel directly from source. That's good documentation and good support. The Galaxy S may catch up but as of yet that's unseen.

Have you seen the video comparing Quake 2 being played on a Galaxy vs a Desire? The Galaxy plays it fine while the Desire is unplayable.

http://gizmodo.com/5580123/quake-2-t...msung-galaxy-s

Oh. My. God.
Seriously, is that stupid benchmark still being quoted? How many times do I have to tell people why it's a flawed benchmark? Nevertheless I'll repeat myself. The developer of Quake2Android developed the game on a Moto Droid and had that phone in mind throughout port development. One problem with developing games on the Moto Droid is that it often breaks compatibility with Adreno GPU based phones like the Nexus One/Desire. Up until very recently Quake2Android did not even reach ingame. In fact it showed garbled graphics rather than a menu.

Strange how they used Quake 2 as a benchmark between both phones and then for some "unexplained" reason they show Quake 3 on the Galaxy S by itself :rolleyes:

Have you seen the video comparing the view-ability of the screens of the Desire and Galaxy in direct sunlight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58gZzqvqhRk

If you were outside on a sunny day trying to play quake 2 on a Desire, and someone rocked up and started palying it on his Galaxy, your willie would shrivel.

Sorry, I don't base phone purchases on sunlight readability. Probably because we don't get enough to make it a problem.

Flash? 2.2 running Flash 10.1 on a Galaxy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY2AsoVRywk

I never said that the Galaxy S lacked flash support. I said it lacked a CAMERA flash. What circa €500 supposedly premium phone comes without a flash of any sort?

Want any more 'facts'?

FYP

They are both good phones. Telling someone who opts for a Galaxy that they have made a bad decision and bought an inferior device is plain stupid, which is the only reason I can be bothered with this.

No, it's simply good sense. The Galaxy S wins on GPU and on internal storage, not much else. The cons outweigh the pros.

cnocbui

partyatmygaff wrote: »

No, it's simply good sense. The Galaxy S wins on GPU and on internal storage, not much else. The cons outweigh the pros.

Thinner, Lighter, Vastly better screen, Higher capacity battery, , Wifi-n, DNLA, Bluetooth 3.

The cons only outweigh the pros if you are a raving fanatic. How many years did you study in the Apple school of iPhone fanboism, before you switched to the Desire? Were you an instructor perhaps?

The things you are mostly harping on about as being Desire superiorities are things that are not intrinsic to the handset itself.

You obviously have your priorities but they are not shared by everyone. The like minded community of fanatics that you get with the Desire may not be everyone's cuppa.

Some people might prefer a screen that is superior under all conditions. For people with such a criteria, the Galaxy would be a better choice.

Just because you never leave Ireland for sunnier climes, doesn't mean others don't. When you are in bright sun on the ski slopes trying to film your mates snowboarding in 720p, and then showing off the resulting videos that evening in the bar, the Galaxy is the superior choice. If you want to sit in the gloom, compiling kernels, while it drizzles ceaselessly outside, well the Desire is obviously a better choice.

I know which one I would rather be doing.

LED flashes are better than nothing, but only just, The Galaxy would be better off with one, than without, but the utility is marginal in my experience, as at the light levels where you need a flash, phone camera modules deliver poor and grainy images as they have to switch to a very noise prone high ISO.

I'll say it again, they are both very good phones.

t.henno66

Look what i've gone and started :-)

I've had a couple of days now to mess about with it and so far i'm delighted with it

evolutionqy7

Soon in your area

partyatmygaff

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Soon in your area

Bleh, i'm gonna wait for a proper update. Although not being in contract with Meteor does make it *that* bit more tempting

evolutionqy7

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Bleh, i'm gonna wait for a proper update. Although not being in contract with Meteor does make it *that* bit more tempting

hmm tempted for it too...though the thoughts of having to sell my hd2 dont bring joy ;( i like having win mo and android

BopNiblets

Guys guys guys, quit your bickering, the winner shall be declared after answering this question:
Which plays Super Mario World better on emulator?!?! :pac:

(Seriously I'd like to know anyway)

evolutionqy7

btw did a bench test with my hd2 android and ill upload the screen shot once i get the build rooted...but anyway galaxy was right behind the hd2...even with half working drivers on hd2 it still beats the galaxy with the all-mighty humming bird?

cnocbui

The HD2 and Desire both have the same Snapdragon processor, right?

As shown by the charts above, the Galaxy S beat the two HTC-made devices by a bit for CPU and 2D graphics performance. But when it came to 3D graphics performance, the I9000 trumped the Qualcomm-equipped smartphones, achieving more than twice the frame rates of both the Nexus One and Desire (see video below).

These tests were performed on devices running Android 2.1. As some other reports have shown, the Nexus One is even faster with Android 2.2 (Froyo), improving upon its Eclair benchmarks, especially in terms of CPU performance. Given what the Galaxy S is capable of now, it's mouthwatering to imagine what it can do with a Froyo update. Samsung has said this will come eventually but hasn't committed to a release date.

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39050603,62200389,00.htm

You were testing the Galaxy with a beta version of 2.2 on it I presume? You don't suppose it only being a beta could have something to do with it?

Abelloid

How do the cameras compare? This is a deal-breaker for me now, I really miss having a decent camera on my phone.

evolutionqy7

yeah but desire and hd2 are 2 diff phones having a snapdragon doesnt end there...

2nd i didn't test galaxy s it just showed me online benchmark results of the galaxy s

Camera is meant to be decent...but if u take pics in the dark its not good cause no flash on it

Abelloid

I don't want to take pictures in the dark.

evolutionqy7

JustinOval wrote: »

I don't want to take pictures in the dark.

bring a flashlight

Inquitus

Anyone who'd buy a Samsung Android phone needs their head examined imo, their track record for supporting models past 6 mths is woeful.

Abelloid

Inquitus wrote: »

Anyone who'd buy a Samsung Android phone needs their head examined imo, their track record for supporting models past 6 mths is woeful.

I'd root it and go with stock Android, I know what they're like for support.

evolutionqy7

JustinOval wrote: »

I'd root it and go with stock Android, I know what they're like for support.

well rooting isnt for any one...some people want their phone out of the box and they dont feel like surfing the web to find all these bits and bobs how to upgrade their phone

cnocbui

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

yeah but desire and hd2 are 2 diff phones having a snapdragon doesnt end there...

Oh I get it, it's supposed to be a big secret that the HD2 has 16 magic crystals, carefully and lovingly extracted from rocking horse poo by sacred virgins, which are then installed and aligned with the orgone energy of the earth by a levitating Tibetan monk. Gosh, I nearly gave away HTC's big secret! Close call, that.

2nd i didn't test galaxy s it just showed me online benchmark results of the galaxy s

Well that's a relief, I'd hate for you to use the exact same OS and benchmarking software suite on each device. It'd be a shame for science and rigor to spoil a good story.

Camera is meant to be decent...but if u take pics in the dark its not good cause no flash on it

Despite the grammar and text speak, I get the feeling we have been over this piece of ground before.

evolutionqy7

cnocbui wrote: »

Despite the grammar and text speak, I get the feeling we have been over this piece of ground before.

if ill ever want grammar lessons on how to text/write to please other people ill pm YOU :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

lewis

t.henno66 wrote: »

Ok, it's just saying "warning not enough memory" when i put the camera on. I haven't loaded anything onto it yet

Sounds like you have it set to save to the internal card, set it to the external.
I had it set to the internal and I got the same message, hope this helps!

lewis

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Sorry but sunlight readability ranks quite a bit lower on my list than features like Flash or developer support.


iPhone Fanboys don't give factual reasons. I do


If you don't use your camera much and don't plan on doing much if any modding on your phone than the Galaxy S would be the better choice. As for me, I mod my phone to bits and HTC phones are far better documented than Samsung when it comes to Android.

What! You can "mod" the Samsung til the cows come home and then some, practically make it look like any other phone, I dont know why you`d want that and with a bit of tweaking it can overtake anything, Ive never had such a customisable phone, takes a while to get the hang of it, but thumbs up!!

Hulk Hands

I have a choice between these 2 phones at the moment. So, which to choose? I couldnt care less about all the hi tech stuff. The phone will be used for callling, texting, music, radio and facebook. I cant think of much else. Im honestly vain enough that i'm more concerned about which phone will look more impressive when I whip it out in the pub!??

BopNiblets wrote: »

Guys guys guys, quit your bickering, the winner shall be declared after answering this question:
Which plays Super Mario World better on emulator?!?! :pac:

Actually this too. I completed this game on the snes when I was 5 and is one of my greatest achievements to date

Abelloid

The Desire is a better phone.

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Gooch2k4

JustinOval wrote: »

The Desire is a better phone.

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The one thing id have that would sway me in favour of the Desire is Sense, but that screen on the Galaxy S... so pretty

Venom

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I cant think of much else. Im honestly vain enough that i'm more concerned about which phone will look more impressive when I whip it out in the pub!?

Won't matter which you pick as when you "whip it out" most folks will think its an iPhone


But all in all the desire is a much much better phone.

lewis

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

yeah but desire and hd2 are 2 diff phones having a snapdragon doesnt end there...

2nd i didn't test galaxy s it just showed me online benchmark results of the galaxy s

Camera is meant to be decent...but if u take pics in the dark its not good cause no flash on it

Have to disagree with ya on that one man, I got one and the fact that its HD and the night mode it good, its a good picture, almost same if not better than a flash....but thats my opinion...

lewis

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I have a choice between these 2 phones at the moment. So, which to choose? I couldnt care less about all the hi tech stuff. The phone will be used for callling, texting, music, radio and facebook. I cant think of much else. Im honestly vain enough that i'm more concerned about which phone will look more impressive when I whip it out in the pub!??


If you could`nt care less about all the Hi tech stuff then why are ya even bothering to get an Android, why not get an older phone?
That`s like someone buying a Lambo and only driving it to the shops @43mph and back, lol. Dont be worried about what people think what ya have...

lewis

JustinOval wrote: »

The Desire is a better phone.

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How?

partyatmygaff

lewis wrote: »

How?

It simply does. I have both phones (Although I plan on upgrading later this month to a Desire HD but that may change if Sony plans on releasing the PSP phone soon).

Anyway, the Desire simply outclasses the Galaxy S as a phone. It's been discussed a good few times already throughout this thread in the past page, have a read of them and you'll see why.