France to expel Roma illegals - should we follow?

darkman2

Sarkozy targets Roma for explusion

LEIGH PHILLIPS
29.07.2010 @ 09:33 CET

French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Wednesday (28 July) announced his government is to order police to round up allegedly illegal migrants of Roma ethnicity for expulsion from French territory and destroy their encampments.

The announcement was the result of a cabinet meeting dedicated to the subject called after officers shot and killed a gypsy youth in the Loire Valley, provoking a riot by others of his community.

The new initiative will make it easier for authorities to expel migrants for "public order" offenses.

Mr Sarkozy said that Roma encampments established illegally "will be systematically evacuated."

After the meeting, interior minister Brice Hortefeux announced the schedule of round-ups: "Within the next three months, half of the illegal camps will be dismantled — camps and squats — that is to say some 300."

Europe minister Pierre Lelouche accused "Roma crime" of climbing "140% each year in Paris since 2007."

The president's office put out a statement accusing the camps of being "sources of illegal trafficking, of profoundly shocking living standards, of exploitation of children for begging, of prostitution and crime".

He said that the rioters would be "severely punished". …

The French Human Rights League accused the president of racism, saying in a statement: "The president of the republic has stigmatised Roma and ‘travelling people' in a racist way, by creating an unacceptable amalgamation of a few individuals with entire communities, and announcing plans for ethnically targeted evictions of illegal settlements."…

Euobserver

I think we will inevitably have to do the same as the Germans are doing it aswell which will put pressure on other countries to take them.

AnonoBoy

Roma don't play in France.

Soccer forum >>>>

Dravokivich

Short anwser... yes...

Long answer... erm... not a racist... no buts...

Banned Account

Why the fook would we want to follow the French at anything?


*remembers Meath v Louth*



Eh, ok - I dunno.

snubbleste

Have we not already done that?
Traffic roundabout abodes in dublin a few years back

Elevator

why not

ibtl

orourkeda

They took our jobs.


Oh no wait..............

Morlar

Elevator wrote: »

why not

ibtl

Absolutely.

Racist my arse! Saying Roma people like thieving is like saying Irish people like drinking.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

****ing americans, they're so right wing and evil

tolosenc

When I was living in France, they were camped up by the river. Couldn't get off the island I lived on without being hassled for money. They were in the Metro stations asking for money for a ticket. Romas there are worse than Romas here, by quite a way.

IBTL

Cheap Thrills!

Yes we should, I'm moving to France. Loving their work lately.

KerranJast

Serious answer - anyone here illegally should be deported. If you want to move to any country obey their laws.
AH answer - even before I knew it was bears I knew it was immigants.

Brendog

Yeah get them out the make me sick!




"please, change, baby, sir, please"

"No I'm not changing your ****ing baby. Learn english you smelly, shower curtain covered mess!!"

Chuchoter

As much as I'm not a big fan of the Roma gypsys, I don't think singling out one ethnicity is the best way to bring forth togetherness and stuff like that. Making people feel excluded doesn't get anything done. It would make a lot more sense for all countries to say no job,no fixed abode, go home and for that to go for all immigrants.

admiralofthefleet

of course they should, they dont make any contribution to the country, only drain its scarce resources

easyeason3

YES!!!!!

All they're good for is stealing & begging, neither of which are appealing.

Biggins

I believe that he should be deporting ALL illegals within the confines of the law but if he is JUST picking on the Roma's - although maybe with justification - I am a bit unsure of how right he is.

Terry

I admire Sarkozy for his take no crap attitude.
First the burkha, and now this.

The Roma contribute nothing to society. Their society is based around crime. They are, in my opinion, nothing but pests.

Kudos to the French for once again doing the right thing.

Cheap Thrills!

Brendog wrote: »

"please, change, baby, sir, please"

While she pinches the baby to make it cry.

'fuuuuthhe fur baby please lady..'

Fcuk up you scamming cow, baby has plenty of food and stop pinching the poor thing.

Cookie_Monster

The French are really getting it together these days and they're right to be doing it. Fair play for them for dispensing with the silly PC nonsense and bringing in sometimes controversial measures to protect their country, culture and people from anything they don't like.

prinz

Yes. Not a systematic round up, but I would agree that any body suspected of any sort of criminal or anti-social behaviour, no matter how minor, and found to be illegal here should be deported (along with family in case of minors). Roma or anyone else.

Biggins

One thing!

...If they are moving out, where are they heading to next?

mike65

Jebus Darkman if you had your way the only people left here would be short gingers with freckles who sleep with a copy of Bunreacht Na Heireann under thier pillow

darkman2

My problem is that if, as usual, Ireland lags behind then the Roma expelled from Germany and France will want to stay in the EU and may see Ireland as the softest touch. Which it is in many ways even in recession.

orourkeda

KerranJast wrote: »

Serious answer - anyone here illegally should be deported. If you want to move to any country obey their laws.
AH answer - even before I knew it was bears I knew it was immigants.

Romania is in the E.U

Kasabian

Biggins wrote: »

I believe that he should be deporting ALL illegals within the confines of the law but if he is JUST picking on the Roma's - although maybe with justification - I am a bit unsure of how right he is.

He is aware that any move against any other illegals will have the streets of Paris and Marsielle alight

ejmaztec

Is he full of bluster on this occasion, just to improve his election chances next time round? If the Roma are all EU citizens, he'll have his work cut out to get anywhere.

thebigbiffo

orourkeda wrote: »

Romania is in the E.U

you cant be serious?

General Zod

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

Yes we should, I'm moving to France. Loving their work lately.

Hurry up and do so, then. All talk, no action as usual from the armchair xenophobes.

Biggins

Kasabian wrote: »

He is aware that any move against any other illegals will have the streets of Paris and Marseilles alight

Maybe so and I agree with others that a lot of the Roma are basically a nightmare imported.
Thank heaves we are an island or the problem could be much worse here.

prinz

Either way the illegal camps should also be dismantled and destroyed.

orourkeda

orourkeda wrote: »

Romania is in the E.U

What has romania got to do with anything?

Anyway, if they're illegal, boot them out, end of

Banned Account

Eh you do know that Roma Gypsies are not all from Romania?

But sure why would the facts get in the way of a good ole round up?

old_aussie

Biggins wrote: »

One thing!

...If they are moving out, where are they heading to next?

Who cares

120_Minutes

Biggins wrote: »

One thing!

...If they are moving out, where are they heading to next?

Probably some country that will let them in without hassle, give them the dole and tolerate their shenanigans.

I wonder where....?

Terry

crayolastereo wrote: »

As much as I'm not a big fan of the Roma gypsys, I don't think singling out one ethnicity is the best way to bring forth togetherness and stuff like that. Making people feel excluded doesn't get anything done. It would make a lot more sense for all countries to say no job,no fixed abode, go home and for that to go for all immigrants.

Do you not remember the burkha ban from a few weeks back?
Sarkozy sees a problem in his society, he fixes the problem, then he ****s Carla Bruni.
The man is my hero.

Biggins wrote: »

One thing!

...If they are moving out, where are they heading to next?

I'd imagine the last country they were in before arriving in France.

orourkeda wrote: »

Romania is in the E.U

Roma =/= Romanian.
The names are just similar.

KerranJast

orourkeda wrote: »

Romania is in the E.U

Fitzcaraldo wrote: »

Eh you do know that Roma Gypsies are not all from Romania?

But sure why would the facts get in the way of a good ole round up?

+1. Also don't even as an EU migrant don't you have to get work at some stage? Surely you can't sponge off the system permanently?

Biggins

Originally Posted by Biggins
One thing!
...If they are moving out, where are they heading to next?

old_aussie wrote: »

Who cares

120_Minutes wrote: »

Probably some country that will let them in without hassle, give them the dole and tolerate their shenanigans.

I wonder where....?

My point exactly.

General Zod

Terry wrote: »

The man is a modern day Caesar.

Yes, the Roman Empire is a great example of tolerance.

Terry

General Zod wrote: »

Yes, the Roman Empire is a great example of tolerance.

Why are you misquoting me?

Banned Account

General Zod wrote: »

Yes, the Roman Empire is a great example of tolerance.

Ah now, being a bit harsh there me auld general - they tolerated paedophilia, rape, murder, tourture and orgies.

biko

I think we should immediately deport anyone illegally in the country be they Roma, Australians, Pamela Izevbekhai or whatever.

thebigbiffo

General Zod wrote: »

Hurry up and do so, then. All talk, no action as usual from the armchair xenophobes.

jesus here we go, and we only needed to page 2 before the xenophobe label was bandied about...racist anyone?

i just hate thieving begging b'astards...doesn't matter what race colour or creed they are

Terry

biko wrote: »

I think we should immediately deport anyone illegally in the country be they Roma, Australians, Pamela Izevbekhai or whatever.

Is she still here?

prinz

Terry wrote: »

Why are you misquoting me?

To prove how tolerant and un-xenophobic one is. Of course what xenophobia has to do with using legal means to counteract illegal immigrants is beyond me.

knird evol

Men on ze left, women on ze right.

Biggins

Terry wrote: »

Is she still here?

Yes. I think she's taking her case to the European court.
Its under consideration by her and her legal team I think.

Degsy

Idont think it shoud be romas exclusively but anybody who comes to sponge,engage in crime etc should be kicked out..we have enough of our own people on the make.

Dravokivich

knird evol wrote: »

Men on ze left, women on ze right.

It's not fúcking ethnic cleansing... just happens to be a fúck lot of deportations at the same time...

Terry

General Zod wrote: »

Hurry up and do so, then. All talk, no action as usual from the armchair xenophobes.

I'll use my vote to speak for me.
If any politician is wise enough to stand up and say that illegal immigrants should be deported, then they will get my vote.

knird evol wrote: »

Men on ze left, women on ze right.

Don't forget:

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Biggins wrote: »

Yes. I think she's taking her case to the European court.
Its under consideration by her and her legal team I think.

FFS.

Degsy wrote: »

Idont think it shoud be romas exclusively but anybody who comes to sponge,engage in crime etc should be kicked out..we have enough of our own people on the make.

Indeed, but the Roma have shown that they can be vicious as well as just being a plague on society, so I support this move by Sarkozy 100%.