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Cheapest way to get a ppl anyone??!?!

  • 29-07-2010 11:41AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭


    Hi

    I've been quoted €10k "with a discount for upfront payment" by a school at Weston for ppl course. Since it would IMO by nuts to pay that amount of cash up front at a time like this, I politely declined. My local flying club was quoting around €13k but said it would take 2.5 - 3 years. Too long for me.

    Anyone have any advice? I don't wanna go outside Ireland though. Anyone do it up the North? Is there any licence recognition issues if I did that?

    Cheers everyone


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    what about florida:D you can get it done weather depending in about 3/4 weeks, although most schools require payment up front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    whats the story with that though, is the licence completely transferrable to Ireland? Just seems incredible to me that people can learn to fly to a satisfactory standard in 3/4 weeks froms scratch. I mean how many hours a day do you fly, how many hours a day for ground school? I don't think most people could learn to drive in that time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    manatoo wrote: »
    whats the story with that though, is the licence completely transferrable to Ireland? Just seems incredible to me that people can learn to fly to a satisfactory standard in 3/4 weeks froms scratch. I mean how many hours a day do you fly, how many hours a day for ground school? I don't think most people could learn to drive in that time!

    you would be flying 2/3 times a day weather permitting there is ground school involved with a bit of self study.
    it can be fairly intence but can be done and your licence would be a CAA/JAA PPL and by the way it's not a holiday camp your there to learn how to fly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,499 ✭✭✭run_Forrest_run


    what about florida:D you can get it done weather depending in about 3/4 weeks, although most schools require payment up front.

    isn't that where the 9/11 lads learned to 'fly'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    so is a CAA/JAA PPL what you would get in Westin?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    isn't that where the 9/11 lads learned to 'fly'?

    i know a lad who trained in the same school that one of the hi jackers trained in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    manatoo wrote: »
    so is a CAA/JAA PPL what you would get in Westin?
    l

    no if you train in EIWT you would get a IAA/JAA PPL the CAA is the english authority for licences etc,but since most european countries are members of JAA/EASA you can use your licence in any member state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    if CAA is the english authority, how do you get the english qualification by training in Florida?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    manatoo wrote: »
    if CAA is the english authority, how do you get the english qualification by training in Florida?


    there are schools based in the US that are CAA/JAA approved schools were you can train for PPL/CPL and ME


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    ah i see....

    so is that what u did?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    manatoo wrote: »
    ah i see....

    so is that what u did?

    yep like so many others:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    how much? when did u do it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    manatoo wrote: »
    how much? when did u do it?

    first off if you just want to fly for leasure get an class2 med done as for prices including flights/visa etc it worked out about 8000e as you pay in dollars the currency exchange fluctuates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    wow, how is it so much cheaper?

    are you a member of a club in ireland now? did they recongnise ur licence straight away and let u go solo in their plane?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    manatoo wrote: »
    wow, how is it so much cheaper?

    are you a member of a club in ireland now? did they recongnise ur licence straight away and let u go solo in their plane?

    the licence you get is a JAA licence which is regonised by other JAA member states, as for flying with other clubs/schools you would have to do a few flights with them before they let you out on your own.
    im not a member of any club as the only one thats near me has a waiting list:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    but ireland is a JAA member state right? When did u get your licence? Do you have to do a certain number of hours every year to keep that current?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    manatoo wrote: »
    but ireland is a JAA member state right? When did u get your licence? Do you have to do a certain number of hours every year to keep that current?

    i got mine last year yeah you have to have done 12 take off/landings in a number of months to keep current,my mate who now works for FR hadnt flown in over a year before he started his hour building/CPL and he was grand.
    and yes Ireland is a JAA member state the reason why i dont do much these days is due to a drop in salary and not working 5 days a week every week, i have other things that take priorty at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    Whats FR? You've gotta cool it with the abreevs! See my problem is that every hour = 130quid. Im working full time and I've a good job but in terms of the other things you have to spend money on in a lifetime - buying a house etc, it just seems an incredible drain on finances unless u make it to CPL and earn a living at it and even then u'll probably have so much debt from getting there and the money is so sh1t at the beginning that you'll still be 20 years paying it off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭pilot1087


    Hi Manatoo,

    Just wondering have you done an introductory flight yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    sorry about the abreevs:D im just so used to it through work ,
    FR= Ryanair
    as for the training your looking at about 65k(depending on ability) to get a CPL +MEIR(multi engine instrument rating) after that about another 7k for your MCC then another 30k for a TR(type rating course) with the likes of Ryanair.
    see i all ready have the negative equity house :mad: and bills to pay on less salary per week,if you could manage to get 3/4 weeks off work go to florida if you want to get it done quick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    pilot1087 wrote: »
    Hi Manatoo,

    Just wondering have you done an introductory flight yet?


    Hi, yes Ive done quite a few over the years. I had started on a course years ago at an insanely good rate in the local club (like £35 an hr) but the instructor left the club and no one else was prepared to give hours for anything like that rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    sorry about the abreevs:D im just so used to it through work ,

    Wait, are you a cpl?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    manatoo wrote: »
    Wait, are you a cpl?
    nope but i know alot about the industry having worked in it for around ten years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    sorry about the abreevs:D im just so used to it through work ,
    FR= Ryanair
    as for the training your looking at about 65k(depending on ability) to get a CPL +MEIR(multi engine instrument rating) after that about another 7k for your MCC then another 30k for a TR(type rating course) with the likes of Ryanair.
    see i all ready have the negative equity house :mad: and bills to pay on less salary per week,if you could manage to get 3/4 weeks off work go to florida if you want to get it done quick.
    nope but i know alot about the industry having worked in it for around ten years.

    Hmm, can we swap jobs? Ill take ur reduced hours n all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    Lads the amount of txt spk in this thread is unreal and mind boggling. Here on boards.ie it is a sitewide rule that it is not to be used.
    so nxt prsn usin it w!ll get de banz dude!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Cessna_Pilot


    Very first post quoted someone telling you it would take 2-3 years to do a PPL in Ireland? Utter bull if ever I heard it.

    A PPL can be done in Ireland in a few months, I've seen it done. If you are prepared to sit everyday out waiting for weather etc. I did this with my CPL in the UK, I went into School at 8am everyday and didn't leave till 6 every evening. If the weather was crap in the morning I watched other students give up and write the day off, while I persevered and witnessed the weather improve quite often and got flying.
    However I was lucky, I had no work commitments at the time so I could afford to put in the time everyday.

    One rule in flight training never pay huge amounts of money up front, 2k is the most I would ever throw in ahead of flying and I would chance that in order to get a discount provided you are prepared to put a similar effort I did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭pilot1087


    Very first post quoted someone telling you it would take 2-3 years to do a PPL in Ireland? Utter bull if ever I heard it.

    A PPL can be done in Ireland in a few months, I've seen it done. If you are prepared to sit everyday out waiting for weather etc. I did this with my CPL in the UK, I went into School at 8am everyday and didn't leave till 6 every evening. If the weather was crap in the morning I watched other students give up and write the day off, while I persevered and witnessed the weather improve quite often and got flying.
    However I was lucky, I had no work commitments at the time so I could afford to put in the time everyday.

    One rule in flight training never pay huge amounts of money up front, 2k is the most I would ever throw in ahead of flying and I would chance that in order to get a discount provided you are prepared to put a similar effort I did.

    I'd agree with this, be very careful when parting with large sums of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    so what do you recommend pilot1087? Are you qualilfied?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭manatoo


    hi cessna

    yeah, that was from a club though and they would only do training when an instructor was available and if the 1 suitable club plane wasnt hired by a qualified member. Also I work 5 days a week and wouldnt be able to be at the club until around 7:30 each evening so it would really only be at weekends and the odd summer evening. Hence the 2-3 years. Must remember its a club, not a school they kept telling me....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    andy_g wrote: »
    Lads the amount of txt spk in this thread is unreal and mind boggling. Here on boards.ie it is a sitewide rule that it is not to be used.
    so nxt prsn usin it w!ll get de banz dude!

    andy i cant see any txt spk bud:D or are you refering to the likes of cpl/meir/mcc etc.


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