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Has Anyone experienced being "fleeced" yet during Race Week

  • 27-07-2010 1:23pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭


    Any locals notice any hike in prices yet?

    I have just been to a local cafe - Lynches Cafe - I ordered the same thing as I ordered three weeks ago - three weeks ago it was 3 Euro - today it was 9 Euro.

    I questioned the price and was given 1.25 euro off, making it a total of 7.75 Euro. I refused to pay and walked out and won't be walking in there again. Cheek of them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Any locals notice any hike in prices yet?

    I have just been to a local cafe - Lynches Cafe - I ordered the same thing as I ordered three weeks ago - three weeks ago it was 3 Euro - today it was 9 Euro.

    I questioned the price and was given 1.25 euro off, making it a total of 7.75 Euro. I refused to pay and walked out and won't be walking in there again. Cheek of them.

    you should always check the price of something before you buy it. Your in the wrong for walking out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭dolphin city


    I assumed it would be the same price as three weeks ago - and why am I in the wrong for walking out - why shouldn't I walk out - you can be fleeced with your money if you want but sorry I work to hard for my money to have some greed monger triple the price of something and expect to get paid for it - I went off and got my lunch somewhere not so greed - he on the other hand probably had to dump the meal I refused unless he threw it back on the hot plate which would go against hygiene rules - he lost a local customer and that local customers family, friends and acquaintance - all so he could triple the price of something.

    YOu say Im wrong for walking out
    shouldn't it be them thats wrong for tripling the price?

    I'll be wrong then - I don't mind, as long as I didn't hand over my money to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭Columc


    you should always check the price of something before you buy it. Your in the wrong for walking out.



    How is he in the wrong? he never ate the meal, When he discovered the price, he determined that it was not worth it and declined and left. If he ate it then refused thats another problem. But you pay before you eat in Lynches


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭onemorechance


    What exactly was E3 but now is E9?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭dolphin city


    one piece of chicken fillet and one scoop of beans.

    when I challenged him on it he said that the one chicken fillet was considered a "full portion" (this was without the spuds, roast spud, two veg and gravy).

    funny how its a full portion this week, but last time it only cost 3 Euro.

    On another note, I was in there last week, had chicken scoop beans and scoop mushrooms for a total of 4.50

    they can stick their beans where the sun don't shine as far as I'm concerned.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Columc wrote: »
    How is he in the wrong? he never ate the meal, When he discovered the price, he determined that it was not worth it and declined and left. If he ate it then refused thats another problem. But you pay before you eat in Lynches


    he never mentioned he didnt eat it..apart from the second post.

    a business has the right to change their prices when and how they please.
    If they believe people are willing to pay the price they set then so be it.

    No everyone is going to like it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 SteveSilverhead


    one piece of chicken fillet and one scoop of beans.

    If they seriously asked for €9 for this, then OP was right to walk IMO..

    Though €3 seems cheap for any meal in a cafe these days, recession or no. Perhaps it was an offer at the time, or someone there was just being sensible in not charging full price for a meal if it didn't include potatoes, salad etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    he never mentioned he didnt eat it..apart from the second post.

    a business has the right to change their prices when and how they please.
    If they believe people are willing to pay the price they set then so be it.

    No everyone is going to like it

    Are you in this business because you appear to be on the side of the guy ripping him off, he was dead right to walk out that is whats wrong with this City of ours we are being ripped off left right and centre, he should be reported to who ever deals with this kind of robbery.

    You should name and shame these guys give Galway Bay FM and the papers a call ans see how quick the price will drop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭dolphin city


    sorry, but no, they actually don't have the right to do that. They need to follow ethics and rules the same as anyone else, otherwise it will be a free for all. If I had eaten the meal I would still have challenged it and I would not have what he wanted me to pay.

    you seem to think that we should all get fleeced and keep quiet about it - I beg to differ - I prefer to highlight it. Especially when they will be depending on their local custom in the dark days of winter, when all the tourists have departed - he'll have a long long wait before I darken the door again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    You were damn right to walk out. You had no legal obligation to pay as you hadn't touched/eaten the food.

    I can accept a little price hike during the week thats in it (Come on, business is business and people will charge what people will pay) but from €3 to €9 is just insane.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭dolphin city


    in saying that, he didn't have a problem when I said I wanted to return the meal - he just said, that's fine, no problem and didn't kick up a stink.

    I was in shock when I walked away - I couldn't believe it as the reason I always went in there is because I thought their prices were pretty reasonable compared to the other places in town, and it is more of a "local's" haunt, although there were a few european tourists in ahead of me today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    Broken arrows. its because of people with opinions like yours that we are all being shafted pricewise in this country. op was dead right to make sure his opinion was heard!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭dantbyhid


    Any locals notice any hike in prices yet?

    I have just been to a local cafe - Lynches Cafe - I ordered the same thing as I ordered three weeks ago - three weeks ago it was 3 Euro - today it was 9 Euro.

    Maybe a staff member made a mistake and undercharged you 3 weeks ago. Talk to the manager about it. I'm sure he/she will listen to you and apologize for any inconvenience etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Col200sx


    Just noticed on my lunch there that the price of a carvery in the Skeff has gone up since last week.

    €9.95 for turkey and all the trimmings today, wasn't that price last week:rolleyes:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It seems a lot of places are totally overcharging. Looked at the menu for the new restaurant in Eyre Square; Maxwells (I think), and walked away when I saw they were charging 4.50 for soup and 6+ for a sandwich.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭dolphin city


    no, because it was the manager quoted the original price. You know how they heat up the meal under the heater for a few minutes - it was him that took it down and laid it on my tray and quote the 3 Euro price. This is why when the girl charged me 9 Euro today (or tried to) I questioned it and she went to the manager who looked at the plate and said 7.75 - this is why I questioned him also and said I wasn't paying for it. How could it be 3 Euro a couple weeks ago and have a price hike of 6 euro first and then when questioned, a price hike of 4.75.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    dantbyhid wrote: »
    Maybe a staff member made a mistake and undercharged you 3 weeks ago. Talk to the manager about it. I'm sure he/she will listen to you and apologize for any inconvenience etc

    Yeah, it would be a good idea to talk to a manager, give them a second chance, although 9 euro is daft for that in any climate.

    The fact that he gave you 1.25 off is kind of random, unless that is the 'discretion amount' that they give non management.

    I think it's perfectly valid that you walked out, giving that you didn't touch the grub AND ordered the same thing quite recently. A euro or two hike, fair enough, but SIX? No way, even if you were undercharged the first time.


    Just saw your last post - yeah, apart from writing to 'Corporate', that's all ya can do!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭fifib


    i know alot of cafes and restaurants have set dinner and lunch prices on their menus and some places will let you order "half portions" and that. cant say Ive come across too many letting you pay by the portion especially for hot food, I guess this is up to the restaurant and their goodwill...unless its actually stated/priced on their menus?! i dont know
    either way anyways if Lynchs allow people to just get some chicken and beans, he should have told you as you ordered that this was going to be the same as getting a full dinner if that was the case for the week that was in it. I would not have paid either!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    I think if ya hold it against businesses for overcharging this week you might have no where left to go. As long as they don't put a tax on puffy directors pants I'll be happy. There should be a leaving town tax at the end of the week. Nothing says come back any time like overcharging for good and services.

    I'd also say if it was to the manager you kicked up a fuss good for you, if it was to someone just working there, that's pointless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭dolphin city


    it was to the manager, and I didn't really kick up a fuss - I just said "are you serious, 7.75 for whats on the plate, some beans and a piece of chicken - I'd like to return it" he said that's fine, no bother - he didn't seem a bit put out that I refused it - probably because he probably knew that he wouldn't pay that price himself, and he chanced his arm with the wrong person. Re. the statement that I should not hold it against businesses that overcharge this week - my answer is why should my hard earned money go into their pocket this week because there are a few horses running out in Bally brit - that means nothing to me this week, next week or any other week of the year. If you want to fleece the locals one week out of the year, then go ahead and try, but don't expect to be thanked for it. If thats all the regard they have for the locals that sit their bums in their chairs all year round, then its not much gratitude and they can keep their prices and their food.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭cats.life


    you should always check the price of something before you buy it. Your in the wrong for walking out.
    why should he price it , he knew the price going in. he/she was right to walk out. there are plenty more cafe,s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    cats.life wrote: »
    why should he price it , he knew the price going in. he/she was right to walk out. there are plenty more cafe,s.

    he knew the price 3 weeks ago. things change. not everyone likes change :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Eman Resu


    he knew the price 3 weeks ago. things change. not everyone likes change :D
    Especially when you get less than you expect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭dolphin city


    he knew the price 3 weeks ago. things change. not everyone likes change :D

    says who......I certainly like the 9 Euro change left in my pocket after not eating a spoonful of beans and a chicken fillet. I love my change - I love the fact I didn't hand it over like an eejit to boost someones profit for race week. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Locals should get a special card to show.
    "Psst, I'm local. Don't fleece me!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭telepylus


    I think ya were spot on for walking out, well within your rights. duno how places can get away with this to be honest. this thread just reminded me of a nightclub back home that raised the price on all drinks by 50 cents after 12! duno how places can do this, but there must be legal loopholes that allow them to do it. most would be too drunk to notice I suppose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    telepylus wrote: »
    I think ya were spot on for walking out, well within your rights. duno how places can get away with this to be honest. this thread just reminded me of a nightclub back home that raised the price on all drinks by 50 cents after 12! duno how places can do this, but there must be legal loopholes that allow them to do it. most would be too drunk to notice I suppose

    This was mentioned recently on a pub thread - someone said it had something to do with the extra overhead for staff after 12 - maybe a wages thing? Dunno?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    inisboffin wrote: »
    This was mentioned recently on a pub thread - someone said it had something to do with the extra overhead for staff after 12 - maybe a wages thing? Dunno?

    bingo. All pubs/bars are legally allowed to charge you for this. (But most don't cause they're not pricks. :P)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭ErnieBert


    biko wrote: »
    Locals should get a special card to show.
    "Psst, I'm local. Don't fleece me!"

    People who work in shops near Lynch's are given a 15% discount card. It has been in operation for years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭KittyeeTrix


    he knew the price 3 weeks ago. things change. not everyone likes change :D

    I'm all for change but that was out and out extortion;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 563 ✭✭✭BESman


    BrokenArrows....shutup please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    BESman wrote: »
    BrokenArrows....shutup please.
    Don't do that again please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Caribs


    Agree that its a totally daft price and a legacy from a couple of years ago when the choppers were in the skies and people had more money than sense. Mind you, prices are hiked anywhere you go if there's an excuse.

    Boils down to basic economics though, we live in a free (ish) capitalist market and the forces of supply and demand apply. The simple way to fight this is not give your business to those places where you don't believe you get value. Whilst I'd never wish financial ruin on a business if someone wants to rip you off you take your business elsewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 563 ✭✭✭BESman


    biko wrote: »
    Don't do that again please.

    I won't. But he has no rationale for defending extortionate prices. Unless of course he works in the industry. Surely not. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭barochoc


    Totally right for walking out. I'd have made a scene & made sure everyone heard what I was saying.

    I've been going to Galway during race week for about 10 years now & it can make Dublin look cheap.

    It's the same every year. Most of the businesses make about 80-90% of their profit during the summer festivals, Arts etc. It's a disgrace.

    My father supplies hotels with goods & used to supply many in Galway along with shops. He doesn't bother anymore as they won't pay for the goods. I can assure you my father supplies his goods cheaper than anyone around including Flahertys markets.

    There's a stuck up attitude with most Galway business owners & they're shooting themselves in the foot. Last year was the quietest race week I've ever seen & this year will make that look like a bonanza.

    Prices of apartments for the week went up about 30-40% because they knew half of them were empty. Another thing they do is only renting from Saturday to Saturday. Most people doing the full race week will go down on the Monday until Sunday. Apartment empty for 2 days & then they hit you for an extra couple of hundred if you want to stay till Sunday.

    You'd want to see how early they come around to turf people out on the Sat & Sun. It's disgusting.

    Only going down for 2 nights this year & got a good deal in Flannerys hotel so happy enough.

    Galway during race week should be an example to all on how to rip people off. I'll admit the craic is 2nd to none compared to wherever & whatever festival you are at in any part of the world. But instead of ripping people off & upsetting tourists, they should be putting Ireland on the map as a quality place to visit. That's not the case & the economy is going to suffer further because of it.

    Enough from me. It's almost off my chest now :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    I've stopped going last year, after being at the previous five, because it's such a rip-off. Hotels, beer, food, everything seems to have a tourist tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭martyboy48


    I've never eaten at this establishment and from reading this thread I will not in future.. A price rise from 3 euro to 3.50/4 euro I could deal with maybe, but 3 to 9 euro to me is saying 'f**k you, we don't care'....
    Shame on them....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 362 ✭✭Mr.Mister


    BESman wrote: »
    BrokenArrows....shutup please.
    biko wrote: »
    Don't do that again please.

    Dare i say it to Biko...

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Make sure to complain to the manager and not the staff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Head The Wall


    THis goes on in every city in the world where there is a major event on, it's not a Galway thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    these price hikes will give the place a bad name, we will lose our tourism, people will not want to come here to be fleeced


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Hasn't affected me but the hostel across from the Quays bar used to advertise rooms for a tenner and they were twenty two quid last week when I passed by.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    This is Cork Jazz Festival bollickry come to Galway. These 'special' festival prices are unacceptable.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    biko wrote: »
    Locals should get a special card to show.
    "Psst, I'm local. Don't fleece me!"

    O/T: Heh, we have one of those where I am at the moment, I'm not a local at all but I work in the region and the card is so that you don't get charged the tourist tax :pac:

    OP, dead right! what a chancer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    despite what people are saying i dont "work in the business" but i do believe in making a profit where there is profit to be made.

    if some people are willing to pay the price then let them pay it, if they are not then dont pay it; but as always you should check the price before actually ordering something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,924 ✭✭✭✭RolandIRL


    absolute cod. you were dead right to walk out, OP.

    i don't know what it is about the republic that makes businesses want to charge extortionate rates on everything. i know that in sligo, this weekend, hotel prices have sky-rocketed. and whenever the Sligo rally was on, the hotel the base of operations was in, was charging close to 10 times what it normally does per room.

    i could understand a little price hike, but trebling the price? that's just gonna make you lose the locals :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,191 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    Any locals notice any hike in prices yet?

    I have just been to a local cafe - Lynches Cafe - I ordered the same thing as I ordered three weeks ago - three weeks ago it was 3 Euro - today it was 9 Euro.

    I questioned the price and was given 1.25 euro off, making it a total of 7.75 Euro. I refused to pay and walked out and won't be walking in there again. Cheek of them.

    3 times the price? What were the items?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭dolphin city


    one chicken fillet (dry) and one spoon of beans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,191 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    What I find comical is that for the Volvo Ocean Week there was a lot of publicity for businesses not to raise prices. Just cos it's a new thing in town I'd imagine, whereas The Races is guaranteed big crowd etc so fleecing people is okay...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Tony Almeida


    It sounds to me like the person who served them the first time was being very generous charging €3 for a chicken breast and beans.. It sounds quite cheap, perhaps they were using their own empathy rather than follow the employers pricing structure..

    €9 is not a ridiculous price for a dinner, especially with the week that was in it, and the employer gave it for €1.50 less which was an attempt to appease you. Granted, it seems like a ridiculous price for 2 items, however i dont believe that was on the menu, it would of been a chicken breast dinner, if i went for a roast dinner and didnt like brussel sprouts and cauliflower i wouldnt expect €3 off the price.

    If you put yourself in the employers position, it does not seem unreasonable, rather i think you were a victim of circumstance, and this is an extreme example.


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