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The future of Irish politics

  • 22-07-2010 6:41pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭


    This is cross party:
    Can we depend on any concrete changes in ethics from whichever party/ies come to power next?
    We see opposition parties cast aspersions on politicians and political donations, the perceived links to contracts awarded, favours done etc. etc.
    We've heard these complaints before yet when others come to power nothing of note is changed legally.
    Will the next leading party bring in changes, close loopholes, make wrong doers responsible legally?

    Most, if not everybody is in agreement that the people have long since lost faith in our public representatives. We need sweeping changes to give people faith and ensure future government politicians can't simply get back to business as usual.
    Can we depend on FG/Lab/SF or even FFail to put up or give us the usual bluster, followed by little or no actual regulations on donations, dig outs etc.? Which party will step up and hold fraudsters and liars responsible for their actions with a court date?

    Here's, not a non-denial denial, more of a non-agreement agreement;

    'Minister for Rural Affairs Pat Carey has said there will no deliberate attempt by Fianna Fáil to frustrate the passing of legislation to tackle corporate donations.'
    http://news.eircom.net/breakingnews/18256565/?view=Standard

    Is this all we can expect cross party, lip service with no 100% commitment?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭Hazlittle


    Well we got Lucinda Creighton, Brian Hayes, Leo Varadkar and Richard Bruton who have so fra shown that politicians with values do exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard



    Is this all we can expect cross party, lip service with no 100% commitment?

    Well, the Greens are committed to introducing the legislation, and Pat carey just committed to supporting it. Not exactly lacking in commitment...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    'Minister for Rural Affairs Pat Carey has said there will no deliberate attempt by Fianna Fáil to frustrate the passing of legislation to tackle corporate donations.'

    One has to wonder why he included the word "deliberate". More political double-speak.

    If he'd said the above without that word, it might be newsworthy.

    Stand by for loads of "accidental" attempts, maybe ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    There will be no political renewal on this island if the people continue to elect the typical party machine morons all across this country. Our greatest plague is localism and our second great plague is our electorate. We get the politicians and the governments we deserve. We have no sense of national togetherness, we care about our own little corner of the Republic and will elect a TD to bring bypasses and hospitals to towns with populations of around 4,000 people.

    No progress can happen in our body politic so long as our citizenry display absolutely no civic virtue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭mrboswell


    This is cross party:
    Can we depend on any concrete changes in ethics from whichever party/ies come to power next?

    unfortunately no.

    As another poster has said too many people vote for a particular party regardless.

    On a positive note its looks like FF will be out next time round and that should create competition again - which is something that we have clearly missed as FF got settled in and basically did what they like without fear of being voted out - until now... :)


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