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Parking in Greystones

  • 16-07-2010 3:48pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭


    Is there any free parking in greystones? I used to use the car park between the arches on the beach but that seems to be P&D now. Is the car park behind there still free?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭darter


    Yes, the DART Park-and-Ride car park is free, just on the left past the beach on the S side of town on the road to Charlesland Golf Club.

    Of course, you are parking there because you are taking the DART... ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Welsh Wizard


    I think its a disgrace that they should charge to park the car whilst taking your children to the park or walk along the beach..

    I agree with the main street but having to pay for going for a stroll in the evening is a bit much for me..:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    I think its a disgrace that they should charge to park the car whilst taking your children to the park or walk along the beach..

    I agree with the main street but having to pay for going for a stroll in the evening is a bit much for me..:mad:

    Parking is free in the evening. After 6 pm that is. Free parking halfway up the Whitshed road and its a nice easy stroll to the kids playground from there.
    The park and ride carpark is free all day and just beside the playground and beach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭Huntthe


    I agree , P&D as a way of controlling traffic on the main st and side roads is fair enough but at the beach or sea front is not on and not very welcoming for visitors.

    The sea front is a natural ammenity and should not be taxed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭danjo


    I go further and totally disagree with charging for parking on the main street or the adjoining side streets. if the objective is to keep the streets clear then ban parking in these areas AFTER providing an alternative convenient free area.

    This is just another tax on an overburdened motorist. We already pay a road tax to the County Council and get precious nothing in return.

    I would also say that pay parking is a deterrent to shopping/banking in the town.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭The Guide


    Does'nt anyone remember the chaos in the main street before paid parking came into being! Maybe it would never have happened if there was'nt so many thoughtless people parking almost in through the doors of shops and causing awful hassle. I worked in the main street then and every weekend was mad. Really!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭Huntthe


    The Guide wrote: »
    Does'nt anyone remember the chaos in the main street before paid parking came into being! Maybe it would never have happened if there was'nt so many thoughtless people parking almost in through the doors of shops and causing awful hassle. I worked in the main street then and every weekend was mad. Really!

    yes , most people on here are objecting to having to pay for parking in areas of puclic amenity , not the main st.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭The Guide


    Thats where the park n ride comes in - free all day everyday and near everything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭Huntthe


    The Guide wrote: »
    Thats where the park n ride comes in - free all day everyday and near everything

    It might be near everything for young people but it is not near everything for the very young and old, far from it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭The Guide


    Well maybe the very old, I'll give you that although my own mother has walked it many times and she's 90 and didnt find it too long but I think Kiddies would well be able to walk it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    The Guide wrote: »
    Does'nt anyone remember the chaos in the main street before paid parking came into being! Maybe it would never have happened if there was'nt so many thoughtless people parking almost in through the doors of shops and causing awful hassle. I worked in the main street then and every weekend was mad. Really!

    +1 on this.

    I also think Danjo's comment about it being a "deterrent" against shopping/banking in the town is hilarious. Its just not. All the business owners I know are doing well.

    Having P&D on the main street only but not on the side roads would choke the side roads preventing ease of access to the main street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭Huntthe


    They may be doing well but it is definitely a deterrent. It just doesn't affect the shop keepers if what your saying is true (not so sure it is true across the board)
    Well maybe the very old, I'll give you that although my own mother has walked it many times and she's 90 and didnt find it too long but I think Kiddies would well be able to walk it

    You've none yourself obviously, try popping in for what would be a 3 minute message if you where on your own with three kids and your trying to find change somewhere.
    Try having to bring them back to the park n'ride from the cove after an afternoon out !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Huntthe wrote: »
    They may be doing well but it is definitely a deterrent.

    That black thing may be black but its white.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭The Guide


    Huntthe wrote: »
    You've none yourself obviously, try popping in for what would be a 3 minute message if you where on your own with three kids and your trying to find change somewhere.
    Try having to bring them back to the park n'ride from the cove after an afternoon out !

    Have a few myself alright 5 exactly, so Ive plenty of experience of getting around and about with children but having said that, this could go on all day toing and froing - the fact is when you take everything into consideration Greystones is a great place to bring a family up and if a few things are not to your fancy 100% of the time, well in the overall picture its not a bad price to pay for all the amenities and surroundings and still with easy access to Dublin, Dundrum (for drivers), Dun Laoire, need I go on.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭Huntthe


    No you needn't I've lived here all my life. While I am prepared to accept the restrictions on parking on the main street due to the increased population. (beats me how anyone can say it doesn't affect business on the main street) I will not accept the tax we have to pay to park conveniently by the sea front, the playground or the Burnaby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,326 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    the problem is that once you introduce pay parking, you also have to enforce it, and you then have to set the price at a level that will pay for the enforcement (the wardens).

    its €1 an hour to park in Greystones - its €2 for 3 hours in Dundrum shopping centre - where would you rather shop. The price is too high, but the council will argue that they can't afford to lower it.

    I was in France recently parking in a fairly big town that is also a major tourist destination. I put €2 into the machine thinking I'd be covered for a couple of hours. I got a ticket back that covered me until noon the following day...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    Huntthe wrote: »
    While I am prepared to accept the restrictions on parking on the main street due to the increased population. (beats me how anyone can say it doesn't affect business on the main street)

    I find the opposite. I will now often pop down to Greystones if I need something because I KNOW I will get a parking space easily.
    Before pay parking it was almost impossible to find a space so I tended to put off any shopping I needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭danjo


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    +1 on this.

    I also think Danjo's comment about it being a "deterrent" against shopping/banking in the town is hilarious. Its just not. All the business owners I know are doing well.
    Perhaps they would do better without P&D. I for one would go there more frequently.
    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Having P&D on the main street only but not on the side roads would choke the side roads preventing ease of access to the main street.
    So you do admit then that P&D is a deterrent then ....exactly my point, thank you. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    Without P&D what happens is the first 50-60 Dart commuters in the morning will park their cars on Main St. and then leave them there for the day.
    Thus there are no spaces available for people who might just want to do a bit of shopping and return home.
    With P&D a parking space will get used by many people during the day, without it the space will probably be only used by one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭The Guide


    While I think the paid parking is a good thing, maybe a change could be made on the coast road for visitors or families going to the beach, and then a time limit could be introduced maybe a 2 or 4 hour limit and then that would stop people parking for full days other than this I dont think there is any way round having free parking anywhere because if charges are dropped in any area, people going to work will certainly get there first and the places will be gone for the rest of the day. Dont know whether that is viable or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭danjo


    loobylou wrote: »
    Without P&D what happens is the first 50-60 Dart commuters in the morning will park their cars on Main St. and then leave them there for the day.
    Thus there are no spaces available for people who might just want to do a bit of shopping and return home.
    With P&D a parking space will get used by many people during the day, without it the space will probably be only used by one.

    It is not necessary to have P&D to prevent all day parking on the main street. All that is required is to set a limit e.g. one hour limit on parking there. This could be controlled by the parking attendants and facilitate shoppers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,326 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    danjo wrote: »
    It is not necessary to have P&D to prevent all day parking on the main street. All that is required is to set a limit e.g. one hour limit on parking there. This could be controlled by the parking attendants and facilitate shoppers.

    they had that before - it wasn't controlled by the parking attendants because at the time there were no parking attendants. Its the parking fees that pay for the attendants...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    danjo wrote: »

    So you do admit then that P&D is a deterrent then ....exactly my point, thank you. :D

    No.
    Not at all.

    Being that your point was that people were being deterred from using the shops and banks and my point was that there is less traffic congestion as a result of poor parking on the roads.

    Have you not heard of public transport? Walking? Bikes?
    Being capable of applying logic to an argument?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭danjo


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    No.
    Not at all.

    Being that your point was that people were being deterred from using the shops and banks and my point was that there is less traffic congestion as a result of poor parking on the roads.

    Have you not heard of public transport? Walking? Bikes?
    Being capable of applying logic to an argument?

    Clogging up the side streets to avoid paid parking on the main street means people are deterred by paid parking. That is a logical conclusion.

    You other question is facile and unworthy of a response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    danjo wrote: »
    Clogging up the side streets to avoid paid parking on the main street means people are deterred by paid parking. That is a logical conclusion.

    No its not.
    danjo wrote: »

    I would also say that pay parking is a deterrent to shopping/banking in the town.

    That was your point.
    If people had close uncontrolled parking they would park there, but they are still shopping/banking.
    Now people have pay parking everywhere....and the are still banking/shopping.
    Ergo: No deterrant to shopping/banking

    If your point had been that it deterred parking then I might be proving the (rather facile) point you made above. I suggest you check up the definition of the word.

    I suppose you were applying at type of logic, reductive logic.
    This is unhelpful though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 egorski




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭cuddlycavies


    pixbyjohn wrote: »
    Doing his job

    Yep, agreed. If this motorist had a disabled pass, wouldn't have got a ticket. Otherwise book the lazy proverbial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,708 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    egorski wrote: »

    He's clearly doing crytic crossword, not writing a ticket, ergo not doing his job! :p

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 egorski


    Actually - that parking attendent was beamed down from above to sort out illegal parking infront of the church.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Aquamarina


    I think overall paid parking has been a good thing for greystones. It's easier to find parking when you need it, and I'm walking and biking more than I used to.

    I don't think a euro an hour is unreasonable, particularly since the minimum payment is 20 cents, for the proverbial 3 minute message.


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