Contentious KZ clip on youtube

Morlar

Contentious KZ clip on youtube


Really not too sure what to make of this one.

Whatever way you look at it this seems to be a refreshingly different response to the standard one.

Possibly a sign that attitudes are changing and could be shifting away from the perception of victimhood to a more positive outlook, or equally possibly the work of a one off family of kooky people.

I really don't know what to make of this but would be interested in hearing other peoples thoughts on it.

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/artist-condemned-over-i-will-survive-dance-routine-at-auschwitz-2256942.html

Artist condemned over I Will Survive dance routine at Auschwitz

An artist has provoked condemnation by filming her father, a holocaust survivor, singing and dancing to the Gloria Gaynor hit I Will Survive at Auschwitz.

Jane Korman, who is Jewish, filmed three generations of her family performing dance routines to the 70s disco track during a trip to the infamous concentration camp in Poland.

The Australian claims the video, which has received more than 200,000 hits on YouTube, is a “celebration of life and survival”.

However, holocaust survivors have lambasted the film, claiming it trivialises the death and suffering millions of Jews faced under the Nazis in the Second World War.

The video features Mrs Korman’s father Adolk, 89, and her three children dancing to the song at various holocaust landmarks including the concentration camps at Theresienstadt and Dachau.

Struggling to keep time, the group can also be seen cavorting beneath the entrance sign to Auschwitz bearing the slogan “Arbeit Macht Frei”.

At one point in the film, called I Will Survive: Dancing Auschwitz, Mr Korman wears a shirt emblazoned with the word "Survivor", and flashes a victory salute at the camera.

Kamil Cwiok, 86, who was a child when he and his family were rounded up by the Nazis, condemned the footage.

Mr Cwiok, most of whose family died in the gas chambers at Auschwitz, said: “I don't see how this video is a mark of respect for the millions who didn't survive, nor for those who did.

“It seems to trivialise the horrors that were committed there.”

Mrs Korman defended her work, saying: “I wanted to make artwork that creates a fresh interpretation of historical memory.

“It might be disrespectful, but he (Adolk) is saying ‘we're dancing, we should be dancing, we're celebrating our survival and the generations after me’ – the generation he created.

“We are affirming our existence.”

The video, which was recently displayed in an Australia art gallery, was also picked up by neo-Nazi websites.

One comment said: “Look, the Jews are still dancing in every corner. We aren't through with them; we will finish them in the next Holocaust.”

- Murray Wardrop

© Telegraph.co.uk

ollaetta

I have to say that when I watched it first I thought it was borderline objectionable but when I watched it again together with parts 2 and 3 I think I understood better what the artist is at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Np3aZh6sU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpfID7pLe7M&feature=related

It's definitely a bit off the wall but if making such a video helps them deal with what happened during the Holocaust so be it.

gungun

Watched the other two parts and I see what she's getting at, but I still think it's a bit far

BlaasForRafa

gungun wrote: »

Watched the other two parts and I see what she's getting at, but I still think it's a bit far

Wellll....it can't be as objectionable as this I'd say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viGpk0oXiUw

gungun

Ok, thats pretty bad too

marcsignal

gungun wrote: »

Ok, thats pretty bad too

you're kidding ? I nearly lapsed into a coma laughing at that ??

jeez it's like nobody ever saw Larry David

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O01kDSs-xzA

Morlar

ollaetta wrote: »

I have to say that when I watched it first I thought it was borderline objectionable but when I watched it again together with parts 2 and 3 I think I understood better what the artist is at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Np3aZh6sU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpfID7pLe7M&feature=related

It's definitely a bit off the wall but if making such a video helps them deal with what happened during the Holocaust so be it.

Just watched it there this morning and I think it's quite funny. The total lack of rhythm anywhere in that clip reminded me of a south park joke but overall it's good to see a different response like that. I think in fairness it was probably only a matter of time before someone else did the same video to that same song there so the fact that this family did it first (and also considering the apparent flak they recieved over it) just made me think well . . fair play to them.

BlaasForRafa

marcsignal wrote: »

you're kidding ? I nearly lapsed into a coma laughing at that ??

Yakety Sax does have that effect, everyone in work was pissing themselves laughing when they saw it

Artur.PL

Is it really funny for you guys?

Morlar

I thought the 'I will survive' one was humorous yes. What were your thoughts on it ?

Artur.PL

I mean Benny Hill parody but nothing funny in here too. it is only my opinion. maybe different sense of humour. also I think there are the places we shouldn't laugh about that or if we do that, maybe like that.

Morlar

I can respect & understand your opinion on that.

It is as the thread title reflects 'contentious'.

To begin with I didn't really know what to make of it but the way I look at it now is that the person dancing around in that clip was a survivor of that place and as such they are allowed to do whatever they want to commemorate that fact.

If a holocaust charity or educational trust etc or any other affliliated organisation take exception with that then perhaps they should re-examine their remit/ ownership of and overall approach to this issue.

I can see the point of the people making the clip, it's triumphalist and celebrating of generations of life so on.

As a side issue the total lack of rhytym is primarily what made it humorous for me, the and the fact that it's fairly impromptu and amateurish in appearance makes it endearing more so than a professional comedian trying the same. It has the feel of a families private 2 fingered joke. In any event I think we are able to respect each others opinions without necessarily agreeing all the time.

marcsignal

Artur.PL wrote: »

Is it really funny for you guys?

not really 'funny' as such, of course. It's just I know the movie that the benny hill thing was taken from 'Escape from Sobibor', i've seen it many times, not a bad movie. To see clips of it in that context with the music, is, well, you really shouldn't laugh, but you do....

i don't think there was anything funny about the holocaust as a whole, not at all, but sometimes when you are over-exposed to anything traumatic it becomes too much, 'overkill' if you will.

there was nothing funny about what happened in the Roman Colosseum either, but we still laugh at the Monty Pythons 'Life of Brian'

Fuinseog

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Wellll....it can't be as objectionable as this I'd say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viGpk0oXiUw

isnt that Escape from Sobior?