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How did you get over your ex

  • 13-07-2010 9:14am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    Hey sorry if this has been done.

    I recently broke up with my bf and i'm devastated I was hoping some of you ladies could share you're knowledge on how you got over breaking up and what you did that helped.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭akamossy


    Well it is hard. I admittedly moped around for so long over it and it did hurt. Slowly but surely I did start pulling myself together, for me it was starting college that really helped me. I had been doing nothing for the year we were together and was quite dependent on him as he was on me and i didn't really have my own life.

    So i felt like i was taking back control. I started back at college and never looked back. I now have my degree so I'm pretty proud of it. I think for me I needed to be kept super super busy in order to take my mind off it and after a while it just went away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    akamossy wrote: »
    Well it is hard. I admittedly moped around for so long over it and it did hurt. Slowly but surely I did start pulling myself together, for me it was starting college that really helped me. I had been doing nothing for the year we were together and was quite dependent on him as he was on me and i didn't really have my own life.

    So i felt like i was taking back control. I started back at college and never looked back. I now have my degree so I'm pretty proud of it. I think for me I needed to be kept super super busy in order to take my mind off it and after a while it just went away.


    Thanks for that. It's just there all the time, I wish I had some sort of an off switch on my brain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭akamossy


    Danniboo wrote: »
    Thanks for that. It's just there all the time, I wish I had some sort of an off switch on my brain.

    That's normal really. Try and keep yourself busy and spend some times with your mates maybe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    They're all abroad :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,419 ✭✭✭✭jokettle


    But we're here :)

    It sounds petty, immature and possibly not very helpful in the longterm, but I gave one of my ex's a "colourful" nickname :pac: Oddly enough, it helped me separate my feelings for him as well as making me giggle! We still refer to him by that name (I won't post it because it's very nsfw) so maybe being a little vindictive in a passive-aggressive way could help.

    You can't always be mature and rise above your emotions; sometimes it's good to give into those hurt feelings once in a while.

    Give yourself time; it'll get better soon xx


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭akamossy


    I've quite a few choice words and names for my ex too :P haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    Throwing yourself into an activity is a good idea. If you've ever thought of volunteering or learning a new hobby then now is the time to do it.

    Also have you heard of the saying 'The best way to get over someone is to get under someone else'? This doesnt mean jumping in the sack with the first guy you see, but I find going on a few dates helps me see that theres other fish in the sea when Im feeling depressed post-breakup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    Thanks guys I am gonna join the gym or something I think I have been out walking and that, part of me is just saying Oh I couldn't be bothered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Jenneke87


    By cutting all contact with him. Any man that breaks up with me can be assured that texts and telephone number are deleted, left over stuff sent back and if you are a facebook friend, well, now he is no more. Staying in touch only prolongs the agony so don´t do it. Make sure you go out and indulge in any kind of activity to keep you busy. Surround yourself with loving friends who can listen to you and make you feel better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,419 ✭✭✭✭jokettle


    Jenneke87 wrote: »
    By cutting all contact with him. Any man that breaks up with me can be assured that texts and telephone number are deleted, left over stuff sent back and if you are a facebook friend, well, now he is no more.

    Definitely agree with this part too. Delete all texts and emails immediately!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭JEmily


    Same as what the others have said, keep yourself busy and i found that i threw myself into "getting fit" mode. So exercise was a great incentive and fitting into my favourite skinny jeans again.

    Also, just remember we've all been there. We've all had our hearts broken and cried for Ireland. But it does get easier. Just be good to yourself and soon you'll have forgotten all about him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    The sooner the better:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Nuggles


    Jenneke87 wrote: »
    By cutting all contact with him. Any man that breaks up with me can be assured that texts and telephone number are deleted, left over stuff sent back and if you are a facebook friend, well, now he is no more. Staying in touch only prolongs the agony so don´t do it. Make sure you go out and indulge in any kind of activity to keep you busy. Surround yourself with loving friends who can listen to you and make you feel better.

    Maybe, if the guy was a prick to you.

    But if the break up wasn't malicious on either part, I think it's a bit much. Ye can at least be civil to one another without being that dramatic.

    But if he was a prick, hell yeah, turn him into the invisible man.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Oh you poor thing :(. Honestly, I'm not sure there's much worse than a break up. All I did was cry for a long time, and when I wasn't crying, I tried to spend as much time with friends as possible. I talked about it as much as I needed, and I posted here a lot. Once I was ready for it, I threw myself into work - studying in my case.

    I don't know that anything can really lessen the pain of a break up, besides time, but the best thing to try is to just keep busy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    I know it sounds stupid I went to get back out there and join the gym and study etc but part of me feels like i'm admitting it's over if I do this which I know I need to do :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Danniboo wrote: »
    The sooner the better:(

    Its all just a bit raw in your mind at the moment, and you do need distractions even if you don't feel all that up to it.

    I don't know how long you were with him, or if you lived with him or any of that stuff.. but something to take into account is that a relationship isn't just an emotional and physical break up. As a relationship progresses you spend more and more time together and routines develop. Even if a break up is a mutal agreement, it's a hell of a lot of change when it ends.

    It's something I had to get to grips with in order to make positive changes when I ended things with my ex. Because there is financial involvement I still have to have ties with my ex, which is never pleasant because he never wanted things to end in the first place. I sort of did things arse-about-face tbh, and stayed longer than I should have, but I eventually got around to it and I'm a lot happier now. Left the ex and the house, went to college, moved back home to my parents (not psyched about the last bit, but working on it :D).

    Relationships end for a reason, and while it not be clear to start out with for one or the other sometimes, there will be a time when you say to yourself "actually, in hindsight it was the right thing". You will feel like a new, and happier person for it - trust me.

    As others have said here, get yourself out with friends, pick up new interests and hobbies etc., make sure you're keeping yourself busy.


    best of luck :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I agree with Abi.

    A break up can be really hard, not just because you've lost someone you've loved (or really liked, whatever), but because you find yourself in this comfort zone and routine and then that's gone. It's like there is suddenly a gap in your life, and time you used to spend with your boyf is now empty and you've no idea what to do.

    Jeez, I am really not making things seem any better here, am I?! :pac:

    You will get over this. Rant on here as much as you like. There is always someone to listen. Did I read that your friends are abroad? Come to some of the tLL meet-up's. They are a great way to make new friends, and they'll give you something to do as well.

    PM me if you ever need someone to talk to. Giving advice may not be one of my better qualities but I'm always around to listen! :) Keep your chin up, 'cause you honestly will feel better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    Get all the emotions out as early as possible, talk to your friends about it. I found the less I talked about it the more it got to me and for longer. Focusing your attention on other people or guys/girls is a good way to distract yourself but ya gotta learn to work at it alone.

    It takes time, you'll notice it slip away bit by bit until you get to the point where you have to actively think about it and you'll say "Oh yeah, that thing !" but for now sadly, ya gotta push through it !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    Sorry you're so sad Danniboo, but it will get better, and you don't have to be sad all the time.

    I cried when I was alone but I just put it aside and went out with friends and had some really fantastic nights out during that first few weeks, which I thought I would never be in teh mood for!

    You need to grieve for the lost relationship, but talking really helps.

    I was away from home when we broke up, so I was all over the place really, but I found that being removed from the situation did help a bit. Could you look for a cheap flight and go visit a friend abroad?

    Other than that, I agree with the other posters - try to change your routine, join the gym, etc. I know you feel like you're putting an end to it, but I honestly felt better when I did draw a line under it and think "ok, I need to take care of me now!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    I've said it before and I'll say it again. The best way to get over a break-up is to make your life better. Everyone has some things that they say they'd love to do or love to learn or whatever. Last time I broke up with someone and was feeling crap, I thought "I'd love to be able to _______" and then I realised that I was holding myself back and changed my mind to "I'm going to learn how to ________"

    Because of my horrible break-up with my last ex, I can now:

    Swing dance
    Play drums
    Drive
    Play ukulele

    As well as other things like having joined a gym and buffed up, getting contact lenses and freeing myself from wearing glasses all the time, getting back to making music and performing onstage and a whole list of other things. Not only has my confidence and self-awareness improved greatly but so too has my willingness to grab life by the throat and live it to pieces. There's always a positive to be reached through the negative. Triumph over adversity gives you more strength than you ever realised you had.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    Nervous Wreck, are you god? I think you should be with advice like that. either that or a self help guru :)


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭Scarinae


    I agree with a lot of what the other posters on here have said. Deleting him from facebook etc might be a bit extreme if you had an 'amicable' breakup, but you definitely need space. I was in the same college course as my ex and when we broke up I found it really hard to get over him when we had the same group of friends and he was around all the fecking time! It was much easier when we had a month off for Christmas and we didn't see each other at all, and then the following term I started drifting into another circle of friends. Unless you have that space, you'll be constantly reminded of them, constantly getting upset, and will not be able to move on.

    I wish I could thank Nervous Wreck's post more than once, absolutely spot on! Think of something you've wanted to do for ages, and go and do it! I'd never been out of Europe before, so (on a bit of a whim) decided to go by myself volunteering in central America the following summer. I did jungle training, learned to scuba dive, worked with howler monkeys, improved my Spanish, met some amazing people, and had a fantastic summer! I spent my 21st birthday on an uninhabited island in the Caribbean, taking scuba diving lessons, and when the sun set I was sitting on the end of a pier with my new friends drinking rum and watching the eagle rays in the water. I would never have done anything like that when I was with my ex, seriously. So make a list of things you've always wanted to do, and be daring! You can do anything you want


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I always think the first step is to accept that it is over which can take a couple of weeks. I normally cease all contact and will delete his number, facebook, email etc as I just find it makes it easier to get over things. If you have shared friends than take a bit of time to yourself and maybe spend time with family or friends that don't have any contact with him.

    Then after that do whatever you want to do, enjoy the freedom and in a few months time you may be ready to move on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,613 ✭✭✭✭Clare Bear


    I was just thinking when I read your post that I'm a bit text book. I've been the same after every break up no matter how hard I try not to be. The 5 phases in my break ups have been:

    1 Denial - I can change, please take me back, I'll do anything. Basically I turn in to a pathetic loser.
    2 Go mad - Go out every night of the week, won't give myself a minute to think.
    3 The Whale call phase - When I finally admit that I'm not okay and I bawl and sob and howl self pity noises that I imagine only a Whale could understand.
    4 Feeling sorry for myself. This has lasted anything from a few weeks to a year. Kind of like embracing the misery. That's the bit you need to work on most, when to stop feeling sorry for yourself and get out there and enjoy life again. The longer you're in that dark place the harder it is to get out of it.
    5 Meet someone else. No matter how much I think I'm over someone and doing well, it always takes that one last push and meeting someone else to really move on.

    That's me. We're all different. You'll get there. It sucks. You feel sick right now and it hurts like hell but you will get there. Talk on here if it helps, if your friends are away at least try and talk to them by phone or online. Get out there and meet some of these lovely LL ladies, that's what I did after my last break up and it did me the world of good. Rant and moan all you want, everyone is different and everyone has the right to take whatever time they want to deal with it.

    Most importantly, it didn't work for a reason. In time and maybe not until when you're with the right person you'll realise that. Feck all good that does now and all the words in the world won't help but it's true.

    Big hugs. I know it's horrible but you'll get there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,378 ✭✭✭mojesius


    Spending time with family and friends helps and it puts things into perspective. A previous poster suggested going away for a holiday to visit one of your friends who is living abroad - I did this and it realy helped, I got to chill out, read, listen to music (and met a very hot holiday romance:D who was a mate of my friend).

    The main thing is cutting off contact altogether, at least in the short term. When me and my ex broke up it wasn't so bad becuase he moved abroad but the phone calls just dragged out somthing that didn't need to be dragged out any longer, even though we ended amicabily. We still email, but very very rarely and after a very long time of spending time of zero contact.

    Also, get dolled up and start going out again. It's amazing how many gorgeous men are out there that you forgot existed for years, even to look at for while ;)

    Personally, I went on a bit of a maneating rampage about a month after my r'ship ended for a good while, in fairness it was long overdue although I know a lot of my friends took a very long time to get back on the bandwagon. I supoose it's different strokes for different folks.

    Be good to yourself and look after yourself. Embrace the me time again. Oh and make a good 'girl power' cd for yourself and blare it when you're feeling weepy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Jenneke87


    Nuggles wrote: »
    Maybe, if the guy was a prick to you.

    But if the break up wasn't malicious on either part, I think it's a bit much. Ye can at least be civil to one another without being that dramatic.

    But if he was a prick, hell yeah, turn him into the invisible man.

    I don´t think it´s dramatic. If I saw him on the streets I´d be polite to him but otherwise, why stay in touch, what´s the use of it? Everytime I´d talk to him I´d feel like crap afterwards and getting over a breakup is difficult enoug without that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Broke up with my girlfriend last night, it was a mutual thing so that softened the blow, but it still hurt saying goodbye to her, she got quite upset and so did I. What makes it worse is that we didnt do anything bad to each other, it just wasnt working and we both want different things, we get on brilliantly, and Ive told her and meant it shes the only girl i've ever been with where I still got butterflys when we were due to meet up even after 2 years, I've never had that with anyone before and probably wont again. If we were constantly arguing or pissing each other off or something it makes it easier to dismiss the person and be glad you're rid of them, but it feels like she's been taken away from me :(

    I have decided to go on a holiday alone though, I need to get out there and do things for myself and due to me putting things off for the sake of being in a relationship, which is acceptable to point but I'm starting to resent not doing things for myself, so its time to be selfish (in the best possible way) and get out and see the world, I have a pile of holidays left to take from work until christmas so off to the states I go as soon as I can get the money together, time to make some life changes that I'm looking forward to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Nuggles


    Jenneke87 wrote: »
    I don´t think it´s dramatic. If I saw him on the streets I´d be polite to him but otherwise, why stay in touch, what´s the use of it? Everytime I´d talk to him I´d feel like crap afterwards and getting over a breakup is difficult enoug without that.

    I think cutting out someone you supposedly loved is a bit much. Why date someone at all if you can't bring yourself to be there friend after.

    People you love are hard to come by. Good people are hard to come by, throwing them away, after a friendly break up, is a bit foolish if you ask me. You can get over a break up without freezing someone out of your life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    I remember saying to him when we were together I know I love him because I can't imagine my life without him in it and even if we were to break up i'd be devastated if we didn't speak. And I was right! He's helped me through an awful lot of crap over the last few years where a lot of guys would have fled, having said that he's no angel. But honestly I don't know if I would have got through it without him, and not matter what terms where on now I can't forget that. I was thinking in time of sending him a card just to say sorry and thanks, but I am afraid he might think i'm a bunny boiler.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Danniboo wrote: »
    I remember saying to him when we were together I know I love him because I can't imagine my life without him in it and even if we were to break up i'd be devastated if we didn't speak. And I was right! He's helped me through an awful lot of crap over the last few years where a lot of guys would have fled, having said that he's no angel. But honestly I don't know if I would have got through it without him, and not matter what terms where on now I can't forget that. I was thinking in time of sending him a card just to say sorry and thanks, but I am afraid he might think i'm a bunny boiler.

    As time goes on, I'm more and more struck by just how alike we all are after a break up. We all think the same things, want to do the same things. It's mad, but it's helpful to know someone has been there before you.

    If you want to send a card, then do. But ask yourself first - are you hoping it'll trigger him to reply, or maybe make him want to try again? If there's any ulterior motive for sending it, then be careful because you'll more than likely end up getting more hurt.

    But that said, we all need to make our own mistakes to learn from them. You'll never learn from anyone elses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    Faith wrote: »
    As time goes on, I'm more and more struck by just how alike we all are after a break up. We all think the same things, want to do the same things. It's mad, but it's helpful to know someone has been there before you.

    If you want to send a card, then do. But ask yourself first - are you hoping it'll trigger him to reply, or maybe make him want to try again? If there's any ulterior motive for sending it, then be careful because you'll more than likely end up getting more hurt.

    But that said, we all need to make our own mistakes to learn from them. You'll never learn from anyone elses.

    It's so true no it just makes me so sad that we stuck things out for so long all the crap in my life he put up with and now things are looking up and we're finished I went through a phase of where I was really moody bordering on unbearable due to hormonal meds when I look back now maybe I did go a bit hard on him in some instances not saying the things I got annoyed over where not justified but maybe I overreacted. I haven't been myself for a while and am starting to feel like "me" again and he's not here to share it with me, it's like some sort of sick irony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭neveah


    Breaking up sucks, definitely the worst experience I have ever been through. My ex broke up with me 10 months ago and to be honest I'm still not completely over it! I'm so frustrated with myself because I feel like I am the one holding myself back, I am in regular contact with my ex and this is not helping me at all but I just can't break the contact. I hear about other girls he's with and it just breaks my heart.

    I have been asked out a few times in the last few months, I went on one date and it was so awkward and felt so wierd I am just allergic to the thought of going on a date again! I haven't found anyone that I'm really into since my last relationship broke up.

    I agree with a lot of the advice already given, go on holiday, do new things, keep busy, surround yourself with friends. I've done all of these things. Everyone says time will heal all but it's been 10 months and I feel like I'm on a merry-go-round!!!

    Ah well Danniboo, I know how you feel. You will start to feel better though, I was a wreck at first, crying all the time etc. You do work your way out of these stages. There is definitely a grieving process but how long it will take to work through it, I have no idea!! I suppose it's different for everyone. Anyway take heart in the fact that you are not alone. Stay strong and just keep a smile on your face :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Micahelxcx


    Send him the card. If it makes you feel better. But let him go. Don't be checking the mail every morning for a reply, because he may not respond.

    My advice is to take things slowly. If you are feeling down, that's no problem. No harm in wallowing every now and again.

    But do try to put some structure to your social life. It doesn't have to be going out every weekend night with the girls. It could be enjoying a long afternoon walk on the beach, or visiting an art gallery or meeting an old friend for coffee or doing some retail therapy.

    When you say you have been asked out on dates but haven't felt anything for the guys remember to give yourself a chance. You don't have to jump into another relationship but do treat yourself and enjoy their company.

    In time, the hurt heals and the self confidence returns.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Danniboo wrote: »
    I went through a phase of where I was really moody bordering on unbearable due to hormonal meds when I look back now maybe I did go a bit hard on him in some instances not saying the things I got annoyed over where not justified but maybe I overreacted.

    This is completely normal after a break up. In desperation, you start thinking "If I hadn't done this" or "If I'd been nicer about that". For a while I blamed myself entirely for my relationship breaking up. Then I blamed him entirely. Now I accept we were both at fault, but if we'd been meant to be, we'd still be together. We'd have worked through the issues together. Sometimes I like to think that we'll bump into each other in 5 years and fall in love all over again, and it'll work out that time.

    At this stage, all you can do is give your ex time. As the saying goes, if you love something, set it free. If it comes back to you, it's yours to keep. If it doesn't, it was never yours to begin with. Unfortunately that's how break ups go too. He might come back to you in time, but sadly for the majority of us that doesn't happen :(.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭neveah


    As the saying goes, if you love something, set it free. If it comes back to you, it's yours to keep. If it doesn't, it was never yours to begin with

    That's very true. Good advice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    neveah wrote: »

    Everyone says time will heal all but it's been 10 months and I feel like I'm on a merry-go-round!!!

    At the risk of being considered insensitive, may I offer some male advice?

    Time heals nothing. Time is an agent that allows you to heal yourself, but if you dwell on the break-up it is like trying to get over a bereavement by remembering the funeral, or the moment a loved one died. It does not get easier, and there is even the risk of desensitizing yourself to the point where you will find it hard to experience joy again.

    You believe this relationship brought you joy. You're right of course. Remember that joy, because in all our lives there will be good and bad times, and the good times make the bad times easier to bear. The good times this relationship brought you can stay with you for as long as you wish.

    You say this man helped you during bad times? Then you have learned that with some help and support you can overcome tough times, including this break-up. Focus on that which you have learned; on how the older, wiser you can now overcome this loss with a little help and support from your friends but mainly from yourself.

    Take up a new hobby. Best of all if it is something you would have liked to do with him but you knew he was not interested. I'm thinking that a hobby which takes a lot of physical effort (dance, yoga, martial arts, tag rugby, etc) will help you to get in touch with yourself and purge those feelings of regret or loss you have over the end of this relationship. This is not a tragedy, this is a preparation you have undergone to be ready for the next, better phase of your life. Out there in the world (outside your old relationship) there is joy, laughter, and love to be experienced. Just as a wine-tester improves his skill by tasting a wider variety of wines, you are improving your ability to experience real love.

    Life really is wonderful. The time through which you have lived is "in the bank". The next relationship may be better or worse than the relationship from which you have just graduated, but as you gain experience from more relationships you can see them in a different light.... not in a cynical way, but understanding that each relationship has the potential to bring some joy. Find the way that brings you greatest happiness.

    Finally, here's some food for thought from the great sage that is Tim Minchin. It's a quirky little song which expresses the idea that "love" is not as special or unique as we may have been conditioned to believe it is. There are more variations of happiness out there than you might at first believe.

    Enjoy each of life's experiences. In the course of your life, the most important skill you can acquire is the ability to wish that all things should come to pass exactly as they did.

    Be at peace,


    Z


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    Clare Bear wrote: »
    I was just thinking when I read your post that I'm a bit text book. I've been the same after every break up no matter how hard I try not to be. The 5 phases in my break ups have been:

    1 Denial - I can change, please take me back, I'll do anything. Basically I turn in to a pathetic loser.
    2 Go mad - Go out every night of the week, won't give myself a minute to think.
    3 The Whale call phase - When I finally admit that I'm not okay and I bawl and sob and howl self pity noises that I imagine only a Whale could understand.
    4 Feeling sorry for myself. This has lasted anything from a few weeks to a year. Kind of like embracing the misery. That's the bit you need to work on most, when to stop feeling sorry for yourself and get out there and enjoy life again. The longer you're in that dark place the harder it is to get out of it.
    5 Meet someone else. No matter how much I think I'm over someone and doing well, it always takes that one last push and meeting someone else to really move on.

    That's me. We're all different. You'll get there. It sucks. You feel sick right now and it hurts like hell but you will get there. Talk on here if it helps, if your friends are away at least try and talk to them by phone or online. Get out there and meet some of these lovely LL ladies, that's what I did after my last break up and it did me the world of good. Rant and moan all you want, everyone is different and everyone has the right to take whatever time they want to deal with it.

    Most importantly, it didn't work for a reason. In time and maybe not until when you're with the right person you'll realise that. Feck all good that does now and all the words in the world won't help but it's true.

    Big hugs. I know it's horrible but you'll get there.
    :eek:

    This describes me almost perfectly! But I was a tad more crazy. Over the last couple of months this is pretty much how I have felt.
    * Me and you are made for each other - PM me*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    Zen65 wrote: »
    At the risk of being considered insensitive, may I offer some male advice?

    Time heals nothing. Time is an agent that allows you to heal yourself, but if you dwell on the break-up it is like trying to get over a bereavement by remembering the funeral, or the moment a loved one died. It does not get easier, and there is even the risk of desensitizing yourself to the point where you will find it hard to experience joy again.

    You believe this relationship brought you joy. You're right of course. Remember that joy, because in all our lives there will be good and bad times, and the good times make the bad times easier to bear. The good times this relationship brought you can stay with you for as long as you wish.

    You say this man helped you during bad times? Then you have learned that with some help and support you can overcome tough times, including this break-up. Focus on that which you have learned; on how the older, wiser you can now overcome this loss with a little help and support from your friends but mainly from yourself.

    Take up a new hobby. Best of all if it is something you would have liked to do with him but you knew he was not interested. I'm thinking that a hobby which takes a lot of physical effort (dance, yoga, martial arts, tag rugby, etc) will help you to get in touch with yourself and purge those feelings of regret or loss you have over the end of this relationship. This is not a tragedy, this is a preparation you have undergone to be ready for the next, better phase of your life. Out there in the world (outside your old relationship) there is joy, laughter, and love to be experienced. Just as a wine-tester improves his skill by tasting a wider variety of wines, you are improving your ability to experience real love.

    Life really is wonderful. The time through which you have lived is "in the bank". The next relationship may be better or worse than the relationship from which you have just graduated, but as you gain experience from more relationships you can see them in a different light.... not in a cynical way, but understanding that each relationship has the potential to bring some joy. Find the way that brings you greatest happiness.

    Finally, here's some food for thought from the great sage that is Tim Minchin. It's a quirky little song which expresses the idea that "love" is not as special or unique as we may have been conditioned to believe it is. There are more variations of happiness out there than you might at first believe.

    Enjoy each of life's experiences. In the course of your life, the most important skill you can acquire is the ability to wish that all things should come to pass exactly as they did.

    Be at peace,


    Z

    Not at all, it's always good to get another perspective. As for the highlighted well the fact he completely used me like I was someone he'd just met in a bar kind of knocked that one right out the window. I'm finding it hard to believe if our relationship meant anything to him at all. No offence not saying all men are the same but how can you go in 3/4 weeks from "I love you, you're the only one I want to be with", to i'm an absolute prize "obscenity" whos gonna use you and let you think I want to sort things out, he told me I was really beautiful FFS and that he missed me then that he wanted to move on and to let him go. Sorry for the rant, I guess all my crazy is coming out on boards.:P:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    Faith wrote: »
    This is completely normal after a break up. In desperation, you start thinking "If I hadn't done this" or "If I'd been nicer about that". For a while I blamed myself entirely for my relationship breaking up. Then I blamed him entirely. Now I accept we were both at fault, but if we'd been meant to be, we'd still be together. We'd have worked through the issues together. Sometimes I like to think that we'll bump into each other in 5 years and fall in love all over again, and it'll work out that time.

    At this stage, all you can do is give your ex time. As the saying goes, if you love something, set it free. If it comes back to you, it's yours to keep. If it doesn't, it was never yours to begin with. Unfortunately that's how break ups go too. He might come back to you in time, but sadly for the majority of us that doesn't happen :(.


    Thanks Faith I think it's a bit from column A a bit from column B while I probably am saying I should have done this etc etc, even outside this relationship with family members etc I would get upset or angry over something and it wouldn't be until the next day i'd think that was a bloody ridiculous way to act. I cried because I forgot to give someone a lift before :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    Micahelxcx wrote: »
    Send him the card. If it makes you feel better. But let him go. Don't be checking the mail every morning for a reply, because he may not respond.

    My advice is to take things slowly. If you are feeling down, that's no problem. No harm in wallowing every now and again.

    But do try to put some structure to your social life. It doesn't have to be going out every weekend night with the girls. It could be enjoying a long afternoon walk on the beach, or visiting an art gallery or meeting an old friend for coffee or doing some retail therapy.

    When you say you have been asked out on dates but haven't felt anything for the guys remember to give yourself a chance. You don't have to jump into another relationship but do treat yourself and enjoy their company.

    In time, the hurt heals and the self confidence returns.


    I'm gonna leave it a few weeks and if I still feel like sending it I will. I had a good cry last night and actually had the first half decent night sleep in ages.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Danniboo wrote: »
    No offence not saying all men are the same but how can you go in 3/4 weeks from "I love you, you're the only one I want to be with", to i'm an absolute prize "obscenity" whos gonna use you and let you think I want to sort things out, he told me I was really beautiful FFS and that he missed me then that he wanted to move on and to let him go.

    No offence taken at all, but trust me people full stop can be nuts. And if I may beg the indulgence of the readers... :) I've had a woman tell me in the morning when we woke up together that she was still crazy about me and couldnt imagine not being with me. Then we got jiggy to cement this feeling. 8 hours later(yep thats not a typo. Eight hours) she tells me she's not sure how she feels. Turned out that afternoon "she'd met someone else". Complete stranger too. Game over.

    Another after a few years together, we met up before she was going out to a work do. A do I was supposed to meet her later at when she knew where they'd end up(no partners at the main part kinda thing). As per usual she was telling me she loved me while she was getting ready for the evening. I even helped her pick out her outfit so she'd look nice as she was feeling a bit meh in herself. So I send her off looking great and with a "see you later" from her. I hear nothing later on and I get quite concerned about her as she would always reply no matter what. She was quite clingy that way in fact, so out of character for her. Next morning me still very concerned she finally calls me and then tells me she's snogged someone else/I dunno how I feel/we need a break to get my feelings back/blah blah(all BS of course). Oh yes. Someone else she had been lining up in the job the previous two weeks. A job I had actually gotten for her. In a career I had lined her up and trained in. Talk about a kick in the nuts and heart. Fine if you want to split up. It happens, but the method involved needed some serious polishing.

    A mate of mine was engaged and him and her and his and her family went away together for a long weekend. The first night after the dinner, he was tired from the long drive so headed to bed early. All grand. 3 in the morning rolls around and she's disappeared. He and the two families were concerned. Turns out she had fallen for the barman and the engagement was off.

    Another mate was a week before her wedding and the potential groom, who she had been with for 6 years decides out of the blue that he's fallen "deeply in love" with some woman he met on a job and the weddings off. The day before he had been busy organising transport to the wedding for various family members.

    End rant :D so.....
    Sorry for the rant, I guess all my crazy is coming out on boards.:P:eek:
    Rant away DB. Sure if ya cant rant here whats the point of the place. You're surrounded by ranters of some sort or another. :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    Wibbs wrote: »
    No offence taken at all, but trust me people full stop can be nuts. And if I may beg the indulgence of the readers... :) I've had a woman tell me in the morning when we woke up together that she was still crazy about me and couldnt imagine not being with me. Then we got jiggy to cement this feeling. 8 hours later(yep thats not a typo. Eight hours) she tells me she's not sure how she feels. Turned out that afternoon "she'd met someone else". Complete stranger too. Game over.

    Another after a few years together, we met up before she was going out to a work do. A do I was supposed to meet her later at when she knew where they'd end up(no partners at the main part kinda thing). As per usual she was telling me she loved me while she was getting ready for the evening. I even helped her pick out her outfit so she'd look nice as she was feeling a bit meh in herself. So I send her off looking great and with a "see you later" from her. I hear nothing later on and I get quite concerned about her as she would always reply no matter what. She was quite clingy that way in fact, so out of character for her. Next morning me still very concerned she finally calls me and then tells me she's snogged someone else/I dunno how I feel/we need a break to get my feelings back/blah blah(all BS of course). Oh yes. Someone else she had been lining up in the job the previous two weeks. A job I had actually gotten for her. In a career I had lined her up and trained in. Talk about a kick in the nuts and heart. Fine if you want to split up. It happens, but the method involved needed some serious polishing.

    A mate of mine was engaged and him and her and his and her family went away together for a long weekend. The first night after the dinner, he was tired from the long drive so headed to bed early. All grand. 3 in the morning rolls around and she's disappeared. He and the two families were concerned. Turns out she had fallen for the barman and the engagement was off.

    Another mate was a week before her wedding and the potential groom, who she had been with for 6 years decides out of the blue that he's fallen "deeply in love" with some woman he met on a job and the weddings off. The day before he had been busy organising transport to the wedding for various family members.

    End rant :D so.....
    Rant away DB. Sure if ya cant rant here whats the point of the place. You're surrounded by ranters of some sort or another. :D

    God people can be so cruel, I was so close to texting him last night something along the lines of "I can't believe you used me. I may be acting out of character but at least I have a heart and there's no shame in that you on other hand are a heartless "insert obscenity of choice". I stopped myself though. It's just so hard when were on speaking terms a couple of weeks ago and he was texting me saying he was sorry for hurting me etc etc and would always be there for me, we were still on good terms and had been previously talking about getting back together, unless he's fallen for this other person :(


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Angel Colossal Sandalwood


    Faith wrote: »
    This is completely normal after a break up. In desperation, you start thinking "If I hadn't done this" or "If I'd been nicer about that". For a while I blamed myself entirely for my relationship breaking up. Then I blamed him entirely. Now I accept we were both at fault, but if we'd been meant to be, we'd still be together. We'd have worked through the issues together. Sometimes I like to think that we'll bump into each other in 5 years and fall in love all over again, and it'll work out that time.

    At this stage, all you can do is give your ex time. As the saying goes, if you love something, set it free. If it comes back to you, it's yours to keep. If it doesn't, it was never yours to begin with. Unfortunately that's how break ups go too. He might come back to you in time, but sadly for the majority of us that doesn't happen :(.


    I hope he does come back :(
    Keep wanting to mail and phone and sort it out but sure how can he miss me if I don't leave him alone !!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Danniboo wrote: »
    God people can be so cruel
    In my humble Ive come to the conclusion that in the vast majority of cases its not cruelty even though it feels like it to the one on the receiving end. Its selfishness, or rather self centeredness. Someone who does things like we've been describing is thinking only about one person. Themselves. They will claim they think of others, but if and when they do its because of how it makes them feel and how it makes them look socially. If they're also the emotionally impulsive types this kind of sudden turnaround is almost a given. They will tell someone they love them and they actually do. At the time. That could change in a week or even a few hours if they get emotionally stimulated enough by another. If the original relationship is going through a rough patch, rather than try to fix things with someone they claim to love, its far easier to jump ship. Usually rinse and repeat with the next person though. That impulsive self centered stuff always comes out.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    Wibbs wrote: »
    In my humble Ive come to the conclusion that in the vast majority of cases its not cruelty even though it feels like it to the one on the receiving end. Its selfishness, or rather self centeredness. Someone who does things like we've been describing is thinking only about one person. Themselves. They will claim they think of others, but if and when they do its because of how it makes them feel and how it makes them look socially. If they're also the emotionally impulsive types this kind of sudden turnaround is almost a given. They will tell someone they love them and they actually do. At the time. That could change in a week or even a few hours if they get emotionally stimulated enough by another. If the original relationship is going through a rough patch, rather than try to fix things with someone they claim to love, its far easier to jump ship. Usually rinse and repeat with the next person though. That impulsive self centered stuff always comes out.


    He swaggered out of the house like he was the bogs dollox, good luck is literally all he said and he left he kept saying to me you look so sad whats wrong with you? I don't understand him.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Danniboo wrote: »
    we were still on good terms and had been previously talking about getting back together, unless he's fallen for this other person :(
    IMH forget what they say in that regard. Observe what they do. If I actually love someone but am having problems with my surface feelings for them I will try to work it out. I may even go off and take a break from the relationship, but its to get breathing space to try and actually get those surface feelings back. Why? Because I actually love the person and want whats best for us and her. If I'm "confused" then I don't love them enough IMHO. I'm no soft touch and I have clear boundaries, but love for me is not a grey area. I either do or I dont.
    He swaggered out of the house like he was the bogs dollox, good luck is literally all he said and he left he kept saying to me you look so sad whats wrong with you? I don't understand him.
    Like I reckoned DB, self centredness. He is only aware of how he feels. So your feelings are largely beyond him. Now this can also be a self protection thing too. A front. Ive done that myself.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    Wibbs wrote: »
    IMH forget what they say in that regard. Observe what they do. If I actually love someone but am having problems with my surface feelings for them I will try to work it out. I may even go off and take a break from the relationship, but its to get breathing space to try and actually get those surface feelings back. Why? Because I actually love the person and want whats best for us and her. If I'm "confused" then I don't love them enough IMHO. I'm no soft touch and I have clear boundaries, but love for me is not a grey area. I either do or I dont.

    Like I reckoned DB, self centredness. He is only aware of how he feels. So your feelings are largely beyond him. Now this can also be a self protection thing too. A front. Ive done that myself.

    That sucks :(. Surely the fact i'd poured my heart out to him had told him that I loved him and missed him etc, etc he wouldn't feel the need to put up a front? You's are a totally different species. Even when he left I text him asking him what is going on and he was like oh it's time to move on we need to not meet anymore, etc etc and then putting kisses at the end of his messages, then he got abusive with me and called me a psycho, sorry for over analysing absolutely everything but its actually somewhat therapeutic to get all this out there.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Danniboo wrote: »
    That sucks :(. Surely the fact i'd poured my heart out to him had told him that I loved him and missed him etc, etc he wouldn't feel the need to put up a front?
    Precisely the time when a front would be required. Many men dont deal well with strong emotions in women. Not all, but quite a few. Like if someone starts bawling crying in front of 10 women, most likely 8 of them will respond with emotional engagement. 10 men? 8 of them will likely be thinking "oh crap, how do I get them to stop as quickly as possible". Not in a nasty way either.
    You's are a totally different species.
    I dunno about that.Maybe in execution of the response, but under that we're pretty much the same. IMHO anyway.
    Even when he left I text him asking him what is going on and he was like oh it's time to move on we need to not meet anymore, etc etc and then putting kisses at the end of his messages
    Yea a bit confusing to say the bloody least. He does make one good point even if harshly, that you need to stop the contact as soon as. For your sake.
    then he got abusive with me and called me a psycho,
    Usual translation: "Ive tried to stop the emotional stuff (in a clumsy way). It hasnt worked so I'm lost. I know... she's the psycho That makes it easier to deal with for me."
    sorry for over analysing absolutely everything but its actually somewhat therapeutic to get all this out there.
    We all do the over analysing to some degree when relationships go south and we're the ones left behind. Both genders too. What did he/she mean by X. Looking for explanations to reason out why this happened. Sooner or later you'll come to the conclusion that it happened, they left, they walked away and that's all that really matters. Then you start to come out the other side of it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭ciagr297


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Sooner or later you'll come to the conclusion that it happened, they left, they walked away and that's all that really matters. Then you start to come out the other side of it.
    unfortunately the sad truth of it is this - they walked away.

    you want him/her to have regrets, to feel as lousy as you do over it - but at the end of the day, knowing that the other party does feel the same way really won't make as much of a difference to you as you think it might.

    in this situation, i dunno, maybe its easier to just assume they do regret it, feel lousy etc etc and then just focus on how you are going to get through it

    they walked away, its not right, its not fair and thats just how it is...

    sorry if i sound unsympathetic, believe me i'm not! going through this myself has made me realise its better to be straight up about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Danniboo


    ciagr297 wrote: »
    unfortunately the sad truth of it is this - they walked away.

    you want him/her to have regrets, to feel as lousy as you do over it - but at the end of the day, knowing that the other party does feel the same way really won't make as much of a difference to you as you think it might.

    in this situation, i dunno, maybe its easier to just assume they do regret it, feel lousy etc etc and then just focus on how you are going to get through it

    they walked away, its not right, its not fair and thats just how it is...

    sorry if i sound unsympathetic, believe me i'm not! going through this myself has made me realise its better to be straight up about it

    Thanks for that :D


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