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Libyan Aid ship false-flag?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭flutered


    has the iranian vessel left for gazza yet, or was it a pr stunt.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    flutered wrote: »
    has the iranian vessel left for gazza yet, or was it a pr stunt.

    Postponed.
    http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE65R1CZ20100628

    I wish the likes of Gaddafi and Ahmenidijad would **** off with their games and leave it to civilians.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    I'm fairly sure the President of Libya prefers Quathaffi as the anglicisation of his surname, not a big point You might think, but having read some stuff about him and his relationship with Regan etc inthe Eighties they purposley had people spell and prononounce it Gadafi just to Piss him off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit




    So to the CT. I suspect that this Libyan ship will be carrying arms in its cargo, will have convicted terrorists as passengers. They may even open fire on unarmed Israeli interceptors all to deligitimise the real aid workers.


    Well, if something like that happens and could be perhaps linked to Iran, then 'tell your god to ready for blood', WW3 won't be long coming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭tallus


    Just heard on SkyNews that the Israelis have diverted the ship to Egypt.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    tallus wrote: »
    Just heard on SkyNews that the Israelis have diverted the ship to Egypt.

    I don't know if these reports are before or after the sky report, as it's an ongoing operation that may take a few turns before the ship ports, wherever it ports.
    I suspect we'll know soon enough whether its a false flag described by Bomber, but these masonic planners never do things that straight forward, it could be just another move on the chessboard.

    IDF confirms making contact with Gaza-bound Libya ship.
    By JPOST.COM STAFF AND ASSOCIATED PRESS
    07/13/2010 16:00 (2pm Irish time)

    Organizers report Navy ship shadowing vessel, pledge to steam on for Gaza; aid ship had previously agreed to dock at el-Arish in Egypt, but appears to have changed intentions.
    The confirmation came after the ship's organizers said that an Israeli military vessel had confronted the ship and ordered it to change course for the Egyptian port of el-Arish.
    http://www.jpost.com/SpecialSection/Article.aspx?id=181301

    Israeli navy challenges Gaza-bound Libyan ship

    The captain of a Gaza-bound Libyan aid ship Tuesday rejected an Israeli demand that it dock instead in Egypt, the mission organizers said, setting course for a new confrontation over Israel's naval blockade.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66B4MQ20100713

    Israel navy makes contact with Libya-sponsored Gaza aid ship
    The Al-Amal, carrying 15 pro-Palestinian activists, 12 crew members and 2,000 tons of food and medicine, reportedly ignores Israeli request to divert to Egyptian port of El-Arish.
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-navy-makes-contact-with-libya-sponsored-gaza-aid-ship-1.301713


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭tallus


    Time will tell.

    I hope they did in fact direct it to Egypt without and of the past shennanigans.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    An Israeli gunboat is currently intercepting Al-Amal aid ship bound for Gaza. The Ship’s Captain was asked by the gunboat crew to go to El Arish port instead, stressing that the vessel will not be allowed to go into Gaza at all.
    For his part, the Ship's Captain and the head of the Foundation’s team on board of Al-Amal aid ship affirmed that the Ship’s sole destination is Gaza, asserting that it is carrying humanitarian aid and has no other purpose whatsoever.

    The gunboat is still present near the Ship sailing to Gaza.


    From GICDF
    http://www.gicdf.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=397:israeli-gunboat-intercepts-al-amal-aid-ship&catid=3:thenews&Itemid=55


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I tried searching for Al-Amal on http://marinetraffic.com/ , there was no result.

    But, and this is probably completely irrelevant, there's a ship called Amalthea currently not far from El Arish port

    Amalthea is a mythological foster mother of Zeus, and is mentioned extensively within the Freemasonry movement
    A curious derivation of a Masonic symbol from the heavens is that universally associated with the Stewards, the cornucopia.

    According to the mythology of the Greeks which goes back to the very dawn of civilization, the god Zeus was nourished in infancy from the milk of the goat, Amalthea. In gratitude the god placed Amalthea forever in the heavens as a constellation, but first he gave one of Amalthea's horns to his nurses with the assurance that it would forever pour for them whatever they desired,

    The horn of plenty, or the cornucopia, is thus a symbol of abundance. The goat from which it came may be found by the curious among the constellations under the name of Capricorn. The Tropic of Capricorn of our school days is the southern limit of the swing of the sun on the path which marks the ecliptic, on which the earth dips first its north, then its south pole toward our luminary. Hence there is a connection, not the less direct for being tenuous, between our Stewards, their symbol, the lights in the lodge, the place of darkness, and Solomon's Temple.

    I wonder if it's the same ship and hasn't had its info updated on the site. It'd be very interesting if it was

    edit: Seems the ship is called Amalthea =o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    So to the CT. I suspect that this Libyan ship will be carrying arms in its cargo, will have convicted terrorists as passengers. They may even open fire on unarmed Israeli interceptors all to deligitimise the real aid workers.

    Maybe, Hamas made clear it saw value to the ship beyond the cargo.
    “This story is not related only to delivering humanitarian goods, but also to breaking the siege on Gaza and opening a sea lane,” Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters, noting that Egypt, which also borders Gaza, was maintaining its own closure.


    Qaddafi invites Hamas and the Iraqi resistance to the Arab Summit.
    http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2010/03/22/qaddafi-invites-hamas-and-the-iraqi-resistance-to-the-arab-summit/

    So if Quadafi is a Freemason by asscoation as the OP states, then Hamas must be freemasons too!


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  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    I tried searching for Al-Amal on http://marinetraffic.com/ , there was no result.

    But, and this is probably completely irrelevant, there's a ship called Amalthea currently not far from El Arish port

    Amalthea is a mythological foster mother of Zeus, and is mentioned extensively within the Freemasonry movement



    I wonder if it's the same ship and hasn't had its info updated on the site. It'd be very interesting if it was

    edit: Seems the ship is called Amalthea =o

    Fascinating stuff. Thanks for sharing.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber



    Latest:

    Israeli Gunboat Intercepts Al-Amal Aid Ship


    An Israeli gunboat is currently intercepting Al-Amal aid ship bound for Gaza. The Ship’s Captain was asked by the gunboat crew to go to El Arish port instead, stressing that the vessel will not be allowed to go into Gaza at all.

    Read more..

    Israeli Gunboat Intercepts Al-Amal Aid Ship


    Al-Amal aid ship is currently undergoing a cordon by the Israeli Navy as four naval vessels are showing up on each side of the ship. The Ship is moving at a slower pace as the Israeli naval vessels are trying to force it to change course.

    Read more...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07



    Gadaffi pushed for a "new order" in Africa - "The United States of Africa".

    how would that be a bad thing compared to what Africa is now?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66B4MQ20100714

    Ship has docked safely in Egyptian port.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    I came across a report from Maan News Agency which said:
    The Israeli daily Haaretz reported Thursday that the ship docked, noting that “It is not clear what persuaded the ships' passengers … to agree not to sail to Gaza,” but quoted an Israel Radio report as saying the decision was reached after mediation by Austrian millionaire Martin Schlaff.
    http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=299652

    So who is Martin Schlaff? An Israeli-Austrian corrupt businessman who is friends with the Israeli far-right including Sharon and has contacts with Oleg Deripraska, Saif Gaddafi and Yasser Arafat.
    And, it turns out, one of the figures involved in with the BAWAG/Refco dealings in the PIPE Market, is the Austrian billionaire Martin Schlaff that will come up quite a bit in Ariel Sharon's scandals
    (...)
    One of Schlaff's companies used in the PIPE market was Balmore, a British Virgin-Islands-based hedge fund. But Balmore has some other interesting history, as an investor in Xybernaut, a tech company that had George Allen on its board from form August 1998-Dec 2000. Like just about every corporation we're looking at here, Xybernaut's managers, "improperly used substantial company funds for personal expenses" and faces multiple class-action lawsuits. For more Balmore's role in Xybernaut, let's take at look at this Sept 2006 article from the American Prospect:

    Starting in 2000, however, Xybernaut increasingly turned to a newly popular financial instrument to keep growing -- and going: so-called PIPE deals, short for "private investments in public equity." In such deals, private investors are granted warrants or convertible debentures for stock at below-market rates in exchange for financing. All the investor has to do to make money is sell the stock. But some sleazy PIPE financiers go a step further by shorting the stock of the companies they finance, driving down share prices, diluting the shares of other investors, and even -- in a particularly egregious form of illegal short selling known as the "death spiral finance scheme" -- driving the company into bankruptcy through aggressive rounds of financing and short selling. Between March and November 2000, Xybernaut went from 1 percent to more than 15 percent owned by institutional investors who acquired their stock in the company through private deals, according to media reports.

    (...)
    Sharon's close adviser and chief of staff Dov Weisglass. Weisglass was also involved in setting up some shell companies used to funnel campaign money to Sharon back in 1999. When Sharon was forced to pay back that money, he received a $1.5 million loan from a South African, Cyril Kern, that was believed to be acting as a front man for Martin Schlaff. The loan, with flowed through BAWAG accounts, is believed that the loan represented a bribe to encourage Sharon to allow the reopening of the Oasis Casino, which had been closed down due to the the second Intifada.
    http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/2007/03/interesting-history-on-rise-of-israeli.html
    Sunday, May 9, 2004
    Weisglass pushed Sharon to reopen Jericho casino

    During negotiations with the Labor Party in October 2000 over the
    possibility of the Likud joining a national unity government, Ariel Sharon
    was asked by attorney Dov Weisglass, today his bureau chief, to speak with
    then premier Ehud Barak over the possibility of reopening the casino in
    Palestinian-controlled Jericho, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

    The casino is jointly owned by the Palestinian Authority, Casinos Austria,
    the Austrian bank BAWAG, and Austrian-Jewish businessman Martin Schlaff, a
    key figure in the ongoing police investigation of the prime minister and his
    son, Gilad.
    "At the time I did not think anything was too strange with Weisglass's
    request, since at the time we knew that he was an attorney for the casino,"
    said one of the participants at a meeting in October 2000 at the Sharon
    ranch. "But now, with the allegations that Sharon may have received bribes
    from Schlaff, the meeting and the request seem suspicious."
    www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=108381
    3023857&p=1078027574121

    Montenegro
    -
    Visit-Montenegro.com: Milo with billionaires at Saif Gadaffi’s birthday party

    Son of the leader of Libya celebrated his 37th birthday with wealthy friends from all around the world: An impressive guest list included Albert Rainier, Prince of Monaco, billionaires Oleg Derispaska and Peter Munk, Polish billionaire Kovalchuk, uncrowned King of Steel – Mittal, Austrian investor Martin Schlaff, representatives of Libyan government and good many others. Allegedly, Montenegrin Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic was one of his invitees
    http://www.visit-montenegro.com/article-mne-22184.htm

    Milo Djukanovic was investigated for connections to the Italian Mafia.



    Deripraska also has connections to organised crime.
    Peter Mandelson oligarch Oleg Deripaska linked to mafia boss

    The Russian oligarch who gave hospitality to Peter Mandelson is this weekend revealed to have been linked to the former boss of one of Russia’s most powerful criminal gangs.

    A High Court judgment details the alleged social and business links between Oleg Deripaska and Anton Malevsky, a Russian mobster. Malevsky was then reputedly the head of an organised crime gang and his brother Andrei had a 10% stake in Deripaska’s company.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5014782.ece
    Was this why Osborne was knifed? Now Mandelson faces questions over his own links to Russian tycoon and plans for a £5bn super-rich haven in Montenegro

    Lord Mandelson is facing scrutiny of his championing of the tiny Adriatic nation of Montenegro as a world trading partner. Aluminium tycoon Mr Deripaska has invested heavily in the country.

    Financier Nat Rothschild, who caused a furore this week by accusing Shadow Chancellor George Osborne of trying to solicit a £50,000 donation from the Russian in Corfu this summer, also has interests there.

    Mr Rothschild, Mr Deripaska and other investors want to turn a bay in Montenegro into a £5billion haven for the super-rich.

    Lord Mandelson also faced damaging new claims that he misled his Brussels officials over the history of his relationship with Mr Deripaska.

    They had insisted the two men had met at a 'few social gatherings in 2006 and 2007'.

    But it emerged that Lord Mandelson had been seen with Mr Deripaska at a Moscow restaurant in 2004, after being appointed EU trade commissioner - but before taking up the post.

    Lord Mandelson, as EU Trade Commissioner, also played a significant role in promoting Montenegro's entry into the World Trade Organisation, supporting its application for membership - which will help pave the way to EU membership and further investment.

    On Thursday it emerged that Corfu was not the first time that Lord Mandelson has accepted Rothschild hospitality. Earlier this year he stayed at Nat's Alpine chalet in Klosters, Switzerland

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1080165/Was-Osborne-knifed-Now-Mandelson-faces-questions-links-Russian-tycoon-plans-5bn-super-rich-haven-Montenegro.html#ixzz0tqVWbToS


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    This is the safe-haven -
    At the grand opening ceremony for the first phase of the new marina “Porto Montenegro” in Tivat yesterday,...

    ... The lavish reception on the jetty of the new marina was attended by many local and international guests, Munk’s business associates, Nathaniel Rothschild, Oleg Deripaska and Dusko Knezevic, the Minister of Internal Affairs and Public Administration - Ivan Brajovic and the Minister of Transportation, Maritime Affairs and Telecommunications- Andrija Lompar, representative of Aman Resorts Jean-Pierre Baratin, Professor Veselin Vukotic, businessman Zoran-Coco Becirovic, representatives of diplomatic corps, maritime economy and local administration in Tivat.
    http://www.montenegro-investment-news.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=323:porto-montenegro-phase-1-grand-opening&catid=45:porto-montenegro&Itemid=28

    Knezevic is the head of Atlas Group who are involved in banking, media, real estate etc. This is their masonic logo

    logo_eng.gif


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Milo Djukanovic was investigated for connections to the Italian Mafia.
    At the center of this case is a hidden bit of history, say prosecutors, of how tobacco smuggling became a state enterprise in Montenegro, a Balkan republic in southeastern Europe bordering Serbia and the Adriatic Sea. Home to just 600,000 people, the country is smaller than Israel and is known for its scenic coastline.

    But it is also known for its smuggling routes through the heart of the Balkans, which, during the breakup of the former Yugoslavia, allowed organized crime to thrive. Italian authorities noted as much in the DIA report. “Montenegro, for a decade, was the real Tortuga of the Adriatic sea,” they wrote, comparing the Balkan state to a Caribbean island notorious for its pirates. “A heaven for illicit trafficking; impunity granted to mobsters… a place where authorities guaranteed the passage of illicitly traded goods.” And investigators left no doubt who they thought was behind the billion-dollar racket: “Milo Đukanović ruled this Tortuga.”
    http://flarenetwork.org/blog/2009/06/03/montenegro-connection-love-tobacco-and-mafia/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    Top Clinton Official: Only A Terror Attack Can Save Obama

    Bilderberger Shapiro says President needs new OKC or 9/11 as a way of “demonstrating that he is a leader” before November elections and reversing plunging approval ratings ...


    (Edit:though false flag related, apologies if slightly off topic).


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Top Clinton Official: Only A Terror Attack Can Save Obama

    Bilderberger Shapiro says President needs new OKC or 9/11 as a way of “demonstrating that he is a leader” before November elections and reversing plunging approval ratings ...


    (Edit:though false flag related, apologies if slightly off topic).


    haha. I don't think there is a topic anymore. I've gone from a Libyan flotilla to Montenegrin tobacco smuggling :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    hahaha :pac: well it's all 'smoke and mirrors' mate, there might be a connection yet!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    just wondering is there any update on this since the Libyan what-ya-ma-call-it?


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