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Munster Final Deserters!

  • 12-07-2010 1:01pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭


    To all ye 'Supporters' who left the game early on Sunday

    hang ye're heads in shame:mad:

    Couldn't believe people getting up to go with four minutes

    still to be played!

    Stay at home for the replay!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Well SOME people really had to piss and get back to the car before the rush.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    To all ye 'Supporters' who left the game early on Sunday

    hang ye're heads in shame:mad:

    Couldn't believe people getting up to go with four minutes

    still to be played!

    Stay at home for the replay!

    You tell them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    To all ye 'Supporters' who left the game early on Sunday

    hang ye're heads in shame:mad:

    Couldn't believe people getting up to go with four minutes

    still to be played!

    Stay at home for the replay!

    I agree..... RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    yeah its a disgrace.. how dare they leave four mins early....
    who do they think they are....
    blaaa blaa blaaa....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭Dum_Dum


    This has happened before with Waterford.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    I think the more pressing question is where are all these "supporters" who stay back the 4 minutes during the league.

    Now, I don't go to any games so I'm not on a high horse or anything but the bandwagon jumping in Waterford hurling actually astonds me.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    For all those people that left during "INSERT GREAT MOVIE TITLE HERE" hang your heads in shame, call yourself movie fans etc etc etc

    Who cares, these people likely wanted to beat the rush for the car park, food, bus, Taxi etc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    Dum_Dum wrote: »
    This has happened before with Waterford.

    happens with a lot of teams, a lot of people older and people with kids dont like the rush of thousands of people squeezing out the gates...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Joey leBlanc


    Shure ain't deserting your team a hangin' offence these daze?
    Maybe David Fitz shoulda kept Bernard Dunne outta the dressing room & on the turnstiles @ full-time. That would be a royal rumble worth seeing.

    Talking of ppl leaving games early how did most of the Deise support just evaporate into thin air @ half time @ Croke Park in September 2008?? And that on their biggest day out in 50 years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    To all ye 'Supporters' who left the game early on Sunday

    hang ye're heads in shame:mad:

    Couldn't believe people getting up to go with four minutes

    still to be played!

    Stay at home for the replay!

    Crap like this from so-called "real" supporters doesn't endear the sport to others. It's none of your damn business what they do. You have no right to make demands. This attitude is not needed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Shure ain't deserting your team a hangin' offence these daze?
    Maybe David Fitz shoulda kept Bernard Dunne outta the dressing room & on the turnstiles @ full-time. That would be a royal rumble worth seeing.

    Talking of ppl leaving games early how did most of the Deise support just evaporate into thin air @ half time @ Croke Park in September 2008?? And that on their biggest day out in 50 years?

    Back in your box Joey. Your talking through your anus!

    Also FYP! days ffs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Hoffmans


    To all ye 'Supporters' who left the game early on Sunday

    hang ye're heads in shame:mad:

    Couldn't believe people getting up to go with four minutes

    still to be played!

    Stay at home for the replay!

    home is the best option cork will run riot and hammer the deise sat nite........:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    When is the replay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    7pm Saturday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    robtri wrote: »
    happens with a lot of teams, a lot of people older and people with kids dont like the rush of thousands of people squeezing out the gates...


    True!

    I think SillyMcCarthy is just trying to prove how much of a "true" supporter he is. Go away will ya, People can come and go as they please, Its none of your buisness! And people can go to whatever match they want any time of the year they want!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    michellie wrote: »
    True!

    I think SillyMcCarthy is just trying to prove how much of a "true" supporter he is. Go away will ya, People can come and go as they please, Its none of your buisness! And people can go to whatever match they want any time of the year they want!!

    But of course they can,

    However, is that fair on people who go to games and can't get tickets to finals or semis because "supporters" have a bit of pull and only come out for 1 or 2 games

    I know a guy, real old coot. Remembers the good old days but I would say goes to 80-90% of Waterford games and never misses a Gaa game that Kilmac are involved in. Back in''07 couldn't get a ticket for the final with paying through the nose he ironically spends all his money going to other games.

    I do see why people like that chap can't go to a final because of bandwagon supporters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    The one that always confuses me,especially in thurles, is passing the people getting into their cars that are about a 45 minute walk from the grounds when the game is only over 15 minutes :confused:
    Many years of match going have created the perfect game plan & parking spot for semple stadium.Always there to the end and on the road within 15 minutes :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Typhoon.


    Surely thats the GAA's fault for their ticket distribution, if that man is a member of a club I wouldnt've thought he'd have a problem , unless he was in a draw for tickets and missed out

    as for people leaving early, what can you do, people have things to do/places to be/different circumstances.... or just want to get home...any way its up to them , they paid their money, I'm sure you have bigger things in your life to worry about (like next weeks game ;))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭south


    i didn't notice that many leaving before the finish where i was. i suppose people wanted to get back for the world cup final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Typhoon. wrote: »
    Surely thats the GAA's fault for their ticket distribution, if that man is a member of a club I wouldnt've thought he'd have a problem , unless he was in a draw for tickets and missed out

    as for people leaving early, what can you do, people have things to do/places to be/different circumstances.... or just want to get home...any way its up to them , they paid their money, I'm sure you have bigger things in your life to worry about (like next weeks game ;))
    Its a lot of peoples fault.Ticketmaster at the moment, the GAAs distribution and a lot of people with pull in clubs and in the county board who like to hold onto tickets incase their "acquaintances" want them on saturday mornings.
    What I found pretty sh!tty too was the block for season tickets yesterday.This was down half way between the 21 & 45(Block 204) but saturday morning you could get tickets in block 206 & 207 off ticketmaster which would put you on the 65.
    Not surprised though since the GAA arsed up the season ticket this year after it running pretty well last year


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 483 ✭✭tom thum


    To all ye 'Supporters' who left the game early on Sunday

    hang ye're heads in shame:mad:

    Couldn't believe people getting up to go with four minutes

    still to be played!

    Stay at home for the replay!
    they were probably fed up of watching the " nearly men " of hurling. worrying times for waterford when an ould fella has to save ye in the dying seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    tom thum wrote: »
    they were probably fed up of watching the " nearly men " of hurling. worrying times for waterford when an ould fella has to save ye in the dying seconds.
    Woooo!
    Was waiting for someone to talk through their hole in here.
    That "ould fella" is still one of the best hurlers in the country and can compete with the new generation after almost 20 years at the highest level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 pitz


    I always stay in my seat and smile at the dumb asses pushing and shoving to try and be the first to get out.

    After all that I get up and have a nice walk out!

    Life's Wonderful, Enjoy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭dayshah


    The one that always confuses me,especially in thurles, is passing the people getting into their cars that are about a 45 minute walk from the grounds when the game is only over 15 minutes :confused:
    Many years of match going have created the perfect game plan & parking spot for semple stadium.Always there to the end and on the road within 15 minutes :pac:

    Public transport is handier I think. That said I went up by car once and was not caught getting out. Just face the car in the right direction and its fairly easy to pull out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    I have often edged my way towards the exit just before the final whistle and then sprinted for the car. 5 mins later on the road back home and back in the pub before the lads in there have even finished the pre match chat. I love Thurles! :D Looking forward to Saturday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 951 ✭✭✭sorrywhat


    what I found pretty sh!tty too was the block for season tickets yesterday.This was down half way between the 21 & 45(Block 204) but saturday morning you could get tickets in block 206 & 207 off ticketmaster which would put you on the 65.
    Not surprised though since the GAA arsed up the season ticket this year after it running pretty well last year

    I was in that block too cos I have a season ticket and I thought that the season tickets where meant to be center line seats.

    I wasnt too disappointed with them, the only thing was, when we were playing up the cork end terrace you couldnt see a fcuking thing cos everyone kept standing up.

    When the play moved down to the Waterford Terrace after half time it wasnt too bad then.

    But back on topic, people leave early for a multitude of reasons. Some people have little kids, dont want them being squashed. Older people may not like the big shuffle etc. Some people like to beat the traffic. Each to their own.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 483 ✭✭tom thum


    Woooo!
    Was waiting for someone to talk through their hole in here.
    That "ould fella" is still one of the best hurlers in the country and can compete with the new generation after almost 20 years at the highest level.
    is everything i said not true?? so ur tellin me the " ould fella " will hurl for the county well into his forties?? cos like you said "he can compete with the new generation" . and , also,theres no need to be derogatory. evryone is entitled to their opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    tom thum wrote: »
    is everything i said not true?? so ur tellin me the " ould fella " will hurl for the county well into his forties?? cos like you said "he can compete with the new generation" . and , also,theres no need to be derogatory. evryone is entitled to their opinion.


    What the hell would you expect when you go on to a thread about waterford fans on the waterford section and start slagging off Waterford hurlers? On yer bike and take yer shít stirring stick with ya!


    I didn't hear anyone complaining when Brian Corcoran was pulled out of his coffin and dragged back on to the field of play, another hurling legend who was well capable of keeping up with the best of them into his later days of his career. Tony Browne will be there for another 10 years. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    michellie wrote: »
    True!

    I think SillyMcCarthy is just trying to prove how much of a "true" supporter he is. Go away will ya, People can come and go as they please, Its none of your buisness! And people can go to whatever match they want any time of the year they want!!

    spot on..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    Woooo!
    Was waiting for someone to talk through their hole in here.
    That "ould fella" is still one of the best hurlers in the country and can compete with the new generation after almost 20 years at the highest level.

    whether he is or not is irrelevant...

    one person does not make a team......


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    robtri wrote: »
    whether he is or not is irrelevant...

    one person does not make a team......

    Thats what United said about Ronaldo and now look at them!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 483 ✭✭tom thum


    deisedevil wrote: »
    Tony Browne will be there for another 10 years. :D
    ha hah aha aha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. thats a good one. i have to admire your sense of humour. waterford will always be the " nearly men " . even looking at mullane the other day, he scores a point , the fist goes up. wow.

    sad really. cos its worse ye are getting. ye had a right chance to win the all ireland a couple of years ago and blew it. so roll on a cork victory on saturday evening. it will make for a better championship if they win. we dont want another kilkenny / waterford all ireland final bcos we will be turning off the tv sets after 20 minutes.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    tom thum wrote: »
    ha hah aha aha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. thats a good one. i have to admire your sense of humour. waterford will always be the " nearly men " . even looking at mullane the other day, he scores a point , the fist goes up. wow.

    sad really. cos its worse ye are getting. ye had a right chance to win the all ireland a couple of years ago and blew it. so roll on a cork victory on saturday evening. it will make for a better championship if they win. we dont want another kilkenny / waterford all ireland final bcos we will be turning off the tv sets after 20 minutes.

    Stop trolling. If I recall correctly, Waterford were the leading team for most of that match including at half time. And they thought the rebels would walk away with it, but the deise men were the underdogs and the "nearly men" are punching the air (similar to soccer players doing random dives into the crowd when they get a goal) with delight at being so strong, not letting go even in the dying minute when they are so far behind.

    Other teams (Tipp being a good example ;)) could learn a thing or two about the deise. Age is only a number ;)

    Tipp were unable to beat Kilkenny either, IIRC. I guess they threw it away also :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    tom thum wrote: »
    ha hah aha aha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. thats a good one. i have to admire your sense of humour. waterford will always be the " nearly men " . even looking at mullane the other day, he scores a point , the fist goes up. wow.

    sad really. cos its worse ye are getting. ye had a right chance to win the all ireland a couple of years ago and blew it. so roll on a cork victory on saturday evening. it will make for a better championship if they win. we dont want another kilkenny / waterford all ireland final bcos we will be turning off the tv sets after 20 minutes.

    Of course I was joking. Looks like you found it too difficult to realise it, even though I put a :D after it and everything. Sucks to be you tbh.

    And yes, we are worse off than we have been in the past, doesn't say much for Cork either, should have beaten us handy if they are going to have any prayer of an AI this year.

    Have you finished now are are you going to continue with the silly insults or is there any bit of decency in you like so many other Cork fans and genuinely decent supporters of the game all over the country who can discuss GAA matters without resorting to childish insults and wind ups. (My guess is you will come back with another post full of hahas's and laughing down your nose at the less fortunates of the hurling world, it's ok though, we're used to the better hurling counties having some fans who don't have the cop on to enjoy their success without leaving the head swell too much.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    Sully wrote: »

    Tipp were unable to beat Kilkenny either, IIRC. I guess they threw it away also :/

    If you're not Sorry , But if you are talking about All Ireland Finals.

    Get real Waterford where spanked like an unwashed kid in their Final , Where as Tipp turned up and frightened the Sh1t of them only to run out of steam in the closing minutes.
    Big... BIG differences in the 2 efforts. One can hold their heads high , the other..... head down and sneak away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    Sully wrote: »
    Thats what United said about Ronaldo and now look at them!

    hate football, so have no idea what happened :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭gscully


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    If you're not Sorry , But if you are talking about All Ireland Finals.

    Get real Waterford where spanked like an unwashed kid in their Final , Where as Tipp turned up and frightened the Sh1t of them only to run out of steam in the closing minutes.
    Big... BIG differences in the 2 efforts. One can hold their heads high , the other..... head down and sneak away.

    I'm no hurling fan really, but any team that makes it to an All-Ireland final deserves to hold their heads up high. Anything else is just nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    gscully wrote: »
    I'm no hurling fan really, but any team that makes it to an All-Ireland final deserves to hold their heads up high. Anything else is just nonsense.
    Sorry to disagree with you ok Teams reaching a major final deserve some credit but than Waterford team performance against Kilkenny was a farce and they should have been embarrassed by their effort ,Hanging their heads in shame for letting down some of best and loyalist supporters . Oh to keep the record straight the Final score has nothing to do with my views ,they could have been beat by double the score and it wouldn't matter if they only had put up some sort of effort , show some spirit ,when down fighting but on that day there was none. And for that they should hang their heads IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    Sorry to disagree with you ok Teams reaching a major final deserve some credit but than Waterford team performance against Kilkenny was a farce and they should have been embarrassed by their effort ,Hanging their heads in shame for letting down some of best and loyalist supporters . Oh to keep the record straight the Final score has nothing to do with my views ,they could have been beat by double the score and it wouldn't matter if they only had put up some sort of effort , show some spirit ,when down fighting but on that day there was none. And for that they should hang their heads IMO.


    What are you shíting on about? They were embarrased and they were as dissapointed and gutted as anyone else, more than anyone else actually because they were the ones who trained all year for it and let themselves down in the end. They came down to the quay in Waterford the next day and it was very sad to see how upset they were. First AI final in so long and they never got out of the blocks, of course they were disgusted and they did hang their heads. But who in the hell do you think you are up there on your high horse preaching? Pontification of the highest degree. (I love the Frontline guy):D

    Do you really think that they went out and didn't give a crap and never bothered to put in an effort? What a pile of crap! The same team of players that bust themselves putting in an effort every year and go through some serious effort in training for very little return. Have a bit of cop on will ya!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    deisedevil wrote: »
    What are you shíting on about? They were embarrased and they were as dissapointed and gutted as anyone else, more than anyone else actually because they were the ones who trained all year for it and let themselves down in the end. They came down to the quay in Waterford the next day and it was very sad to see how upset they were. First AI final in so long and they never got out of the blocks, of course they were disgusted and they did hang their heads. But who in the hell do you think you are up there on your high horse preaching? Pontification of the highest degree. (I love the Frontline guy):D

    Do you really think that they went out and didn't give a crap and never bothered to put in an effort? What a pile of crap! The same team of players that bust themselves putting in an effort every year and go through some serious effort in training for very little return. Have a bit of cop on will ya!


    Someone with a view , Which I'm entitled to ,Sorry if I Have the cheek to disagree with you. I Never said they didn't give a crap ,I SAID THEY'RE EFFORT WAS CRAP .ON THAT DAY THEY SHOW NO FIGHTING SPIRIT .which I stand by, And if you'd like to watch that game again and judge it on effort ,performance and fighting spirit you may see things different ,But then again rose tinted memories are alot easier.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    Someone with a view , Which I'm entitled to ,Sorry if I Have the cheek to disagree with you. I Never said they didn't give a crap ,I SAID THEY'RE EFFORT WAS CRAP .ON THAT DAY THEY SHOW NO FIGHTING SPIRIT .which I stand by, And if you'd like to watch that game again and judge it on effort ,performance and fighting spirit you may see things different ,But then again rose tinted memories are alot easier.

    How about this then

    GO F*CK YOURSELF


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 744 ✭✭✭angry_fox


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    Someone with a view , Which I'm entitled to ,Sorry if I Have the cheek to disagree with you. I Never said they didn't give a crap ,I SAID THEY'RE EFFORT WAS CRAP .ON THAT DAY THEY SHOW NO FIGHTING SPIRIT .which I stand by, And if you'd like to watch that game again and judge it on effort ,performance and fighting spirit you may see things different ,But then again rose tinted memories are alot easier.

    Kilkenny were simply awesome that day, no team in Ireland would have stood a chance against them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭comeraghs


    I didn't see anybody heading away early on Sunday

    & as for Rockman everyteam can have a bad day as anybody who has ever played sport knows & unfortunatly for Waterford it was on such a big day & nobody could have lived with the fantastic KK performance that day. Lay off our hurlers they've done us proud down the years.

    & isn't their something pathetic about people from other counties coming onto another counties thread to talk ****e .... grow up a bit.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    How about this then

    GO F*CK YOURSELF

    1 week ban.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 deiseash


    I got a great laugh out of the two Cork supporters beside me who left with about 5 minutes to go. I presume they thought Cork had it won... Would have enjoyed seeing their faces when they heard the news later on!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭deise blue


    robtri wrote: »
    hate football, so have no idea what happened :o

    Ah that's sad.

    We in Waterford are far more eucemenical in our love of all sports.

    We are proud of our hurlers and equally proud of the fact that 2 footballers from our great city played in European Cup/Champions league finals and the fact that we provided so many players for the Irish team.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    Would cork have had the turnout for the hurlers on the quay that we had after the Final loss? Mr. Rebel man up there will say it was pathetic and in cork they would not accept such behaviour, but I don't think I have ever been as proud to have been a Waterford man in me hole life as that day, to see so many people come together at a very dark time, to rally behind our hurlers, who we appreciate no matter what, that's the spirit of hurling, and if that rebel up there doesn't understand that, then he simply, does not understand the wondrous sport that is Hurling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    Someone with a view , Which I'm entitled to ,Sorry if I Have the cheek to disagree with you. I Never said they didn't give a crap ,I SAID THEY'RE EFFORT WAS CRAP .ON THAT DAY THEY SHOW NO FIGHTING SPIRIT .which I stand by, And if you'd like to watch that game again and judge it on effort ,performance and fighting spirit you may see things different ,But then again rose tinted memories are alot easier.


    What rose tinted glasses? READ MY POST AGAIN! Everyone in Waterford knows how bad the hurlers that day felt about what happened in that final. The players were devastated after it and knew they had embarassed themselves, left themselves down, did not come anywhere near giving a good account of themselves or show what they can truly become on the field of play and they did hang their heads in shame and some could not even fight back the tears they were that disugusted.

    My point to you was that the dogs on the street know this, so what in the hell are you banging on about when you come on here preaching about how they should be embarassed of themselves and hang their heads in shame? They already did that in front of a large crowd of people on the quay the day after the final, what more do you want from them, a public stoning is it? They are amatuer sportsmen who give up a hell of a lot more than most for very little reward and when things don't work out for them when they genuinely go out to do their best then who are you to criticise them and make comments about the appropriate response from them (which they already had done)?

    I watched many of that same team win two Munster finals and the first one against Tipp I would still regard that as one of the best moments of my life, I'll never forget that moment when the final whistle blew and I'll never forget the celebrations afterwards in Dungarvan with the players. I wouldn't be the type to forget the good days as soon as a bad one comes along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    deisedevil wrote: »
    My point to you was that the dogs on the street know this, so what in the hell are you banging on about when you come on here preaching about how they should be embarassed of themselves and hang their heads in shame? They already did that in front of a large crowd of people on the quay the day after the final, what more do you want from them, a public stoning is it? They are amatuer sportsmen who give up a hell of a lot more than most for very little reward and when things don't work out for them when they genuinely go out to do their best then who are you to criticise them and make comments about the appropriate response from them (which they already had done)?
    AH Please don't bring up that old chestnut , good old GAA PR, Top County players get enough rewards ,when the last time you seen one down the local dole office [ok before the tiger died]Nice jobs in the public eye with this company or that company ,trainee.dish washer etc when a minor to front man in a bank or such when a senior player , Hmmm no rewards , Next you will be telling me the GAA is a non profit group
    Nice jobs and nice cars are part of the modern package


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 483 ✭✭tom thum


    Sully wrote: »
    1 week ban.
    here here!!


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