Pimp my Rifle thread

Tackleberrywho

Not a question, Just a thread for all you guys out there who have pimped or are pimping your rifle at the moment, either DIY or work you had done.

A knowledge sharing thread. What works, what does not work. What you found best value for your buck etc.

I'm pimping my stock on my stalking rifle at the minute. Any body on here got any pimped stalking rifles, or ideas that could be used; then post them here

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-vtr.aspx

Before Pimping

Tackleberrywho

First I removed Muzzle break and threaded and added a Moderator.
Then when I was re-stocking I decided the stock needed some pimping.

The fore end could flex and touch the barrel.
So I am getting a new stock in my favourite colour "green"

Tackleberrywho

The VTR comes with a 2" Muzzle break. Which was removed and re-crowned, as the Factory crowns are poor.

Next is a PSE stock, work ongoing.

So guys, show me your pimp jobs/work done etc.

Leave it in a way that others may learn from our mistakes/improvements.;)

Vegeta

I have a .223 Tikka Varmint which was threaded for a mod

Had it duracoated by gunhappy_ie off here and it was a brilliant job.

Other than that I didn't do anything but if there was a decent tactical type stock for it I would go for that as the stock on the tikka is not nice.

Tackleberrywho

Vegeta wrote: »

I have a .223 Tikka Varmint which was threaded for a mod

Had it duracoated by gunhappy_ie off here and it was a brilliant job.

Other than that I didn't do anything but if there was a decent tactical type stock for it I would go for that as the stock on the tikka is not nice.

pics??

Vegeta

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

pics??

Don't actually have any Tack of the way it looks now

Might take some the next time I'm out though (whenever we get another fine spell to zero it again). Have a 12-42x56 Nightforce on it which is a little excessive but for long range stuff it is great fun.

Brother has a remington 700 300 win mag in AICS stock which is a bit of fun. Threaded for a mod. With the mod, recoil pad and the weight of the stock it is not too bad recoil wise. Better than his former sako 75 hunter in .270 anyway. Lovely rifle but it made me flinch like nothing else.

He has his stalking scope on the 300 now though so it is not great for longer range work just yet. When he gets a target scope for it, it will be much more fun.

Tackleberrywho

Vegeta wrote: »

Don't actually have any Tack of the way it looks now

Might take some the next time I'm out though (whenever we get another fine spell to zero it again). Have a 12-42x56 Nightforce on it which is a little excessive but for long range stuff it is great fun.

Brother has a remington 700 300 win mag in AICS stock which is a bit of fun. Threaded for a mod. With the mod, recoil pad and the weight of the stock it is not too bad recoil wise. Better than his former sako 75 hunter in .270 anyway. Lovely rifle but it made me flinch like nothing else.

He has his stalking scope on the 300 now though so it is not great for longer range work just yet. When he gets a target scope for it, it will be much more fun.

I've the 5.5 -22 on the VTR. Edi is going to make me a stock.(left cheek rise, right bolt slot)

I am left eye dominant, but right handed. So Edi will provide me with a lovely stock all things going well.

I decided last night I'm going to get another Timney. If I have all my rifles same trigger pressure I will "hopefully" have less getting used to a different trigger pressure when stalking.

I do believe I am one of the first in the country with a VTR with a mod on, as they come Toblerone shaped its not simple to thread, but do able

So with a new stock, glass bedding and RWS ammo It should be a force to be reckoned with against deer, and the odd Fox or head shot bunny

Vegeta

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I do believe I am one of the first in the country with a VTR with a mod on, as they come Toblerone shaped its not simple to thread, but do able

Down the line if you want a different barrel can the "Toblerone" shaped one be taken off like a regular barrel?

LB6

My girl pimped for International in Milan in '07

Tackleberrywho

Vegeta wrote: »

Down the line if you want a different barrel can the "Toblerone" shaped one be taken off like a regular barrel?

Ah yeah, It is the same joining configuration.

Remmys are very simple. The actions stay the same, the barrels differ keeping down costs.

There is very little diff between my VTR and VSSF II action other than the material SS Vs reg coated remmy steel.

I'm trying to keep weight to a min, whilst accuracy to the max.

Hence Pimping

The VTR is VERY loud in the short barrel as the sound escapes closer to user IMHO.

With the mod on, there is VERY little recoil and she is balanced well due to the short barrel. Zeroing wed to take a few pics of groups pre Edi Stock-ing

Tackleberrywho

LB6 wrote: »

My girl pimped for International in Milan in '07

Very nice !

Tackleberrywho

this guy demonstrates the VTR and also shows that Lefties shoot right handed too

Edi are you watching this!!

clivej

NOT another "Mine Bigger Than Yours" thread PLEASE.

Well here's mine

Tackleberrywho

clivej wrote: »

NOT another "Mine Bigger Than Yours" thread PLEASE.

No clive.

You are missing the point entirely.

This thread is for folk who have modifed there rifle to show what they have done, but most important is to show what they have learned along the way.

You have a lot to contribute here having bedded your rifle recently.

The mod's asked for a seperate thread and here it is.
It's good to share knowledge.

That is what boards.ie is about.

So back on thread, can you show what you have doen to your rifle, what you found worthwhile and what you found was a poor Return on investment.

For example if you used a certain type epoxy once and it turned out to be useless, or if you found one type to work better over another.

My hope is that Newbies can learn a lot from the combined experience of the collective.

clivej

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

clivej wrote: »

NOT another "Mine Bigger Than Yours" thread PLEASE.

No clive.

You are missing the point entirely.

This thread is for folk who have modifed there rifle to show what they have done, but most important is to show what they have learned along the way.

You have a lot to contribute here having bedded your rifle recently.

The mod's asked for a seperate thread and here it is.
It's good to share knowledge.

That is what boards.ie is about.

So back on thread, can you show what you have doen to your rifle, what you found worthwhile and what you found was a poor Return on investment.

For example if you used a certain type epoxy once and it turned out to be useless, or if you found one type to work better over another.

My hope is that Newbies can learn a lot from the combined experience of the collective.

Mines still bigger and still up before me in the morning:D


This is what I badgered for and the Mods put up for us
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055444087

Tackleberrywho

clivej wrote: »

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This is what I badgered for and the Mods put up for us
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055444087

Ah Clive, that thread is too spread out and not current regarding Pimping.
This is a specific thread on pimping rifles only.

Edit

I see your new job is up on it, however if someone wishes to solely PIMP a rifle and does a google search they will land on the Pimping thread

Tackleberrywho

Has anybody done any DIY Pimping on their rifles?

Spraying etc

jap gt

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Has anybody done any DIY Pimping on their rifles?

Spraying etc

jesus your very fond of the word 'pimping'

Tackleberrywho

jap gt wrote: »

jesus your very fond of the word 'pimping'

Well, myself and another poster were talking about a new stock on another thread and a mod said we should start a new thread about our pimping.

So I did!

I have "tuned" everything I have ever owned, motorbikes, cars , jeeps, RIFLES.

Some TWEAKS worked out well, some did not.
However it would have been handy if I could have learned from others experiences.

This is my belief of what this thread is about.

quote
Today, 10:15 #16
Vegeta
Moderator


Mod: Elder Scrolls, Hunting, Shooting
Lads I am not trying to be rude and I don't want to discourage conversation on rifle pimping as I love that stuff but has the thread gone a long way from John's original question.

The topic you are discussing is very interesting and maybe a new thread to continue it is a good idea

Vegeta

Don't worry Tack, this thread is in no fear of being closed unless someone goes silly buggers in here.

Clive I think this thread is more for discussion as opposed to tips. I want to keep the Signal to Noise Ratio high in the tips section and some of your excellent contributions do just that.

This thread I think is for more general discussion and chat about rifle modifications and it doesn't matter if it meanders

FISMA

Pimp'n ain't easy...

Sorry about the size. Is there a tag attribute that I can use to force it to a size?

Sparks

FISMA wrote: »

Sorry about the size. Is there a tag attribute that I can use to force it to a size?

'fraid not

And that's definitely a candidate for worlds most over-complicated air rifle

ormondprop

Sparks wrote: »

that's definitely a candidate for worlds most over-complicated air rifle

is that not the new super soaker 3000:D

Tackleberrywho

Sparks wrote: »

'fraid not

And that's definitely a candidate for worlds most over-complicated air rifle

FISMA

save pic, open in paint.
view(resize skew) save as
the we posting pic post resized pic

I know of a guy that has an old German AFAIK .243 rifle bolt action bullpup.
Not very pimped though.

Any body done anything unusual to their rifles construction?

Shortened/lengthened barrel, Fancy paint job etc?

Especially folk who took a few pics along the way:D

ejg

Now, how is this done?

Light tactical rifle, Barrel thicker than a varmint not carbon...
but the complete rifles only weighs 2.9kg.
edi

It wasn't me!

ejg wrote: »

Now, how is this done?

Light tactical rifle, Barrel thicker than a varmint not carbon...
but the complete rifles only weighs 2.9kg.
edi

The stock is an optical illusion?

Tackleberrywho

It wasn't me! wrote: »

The stock is an optical illusion?

The stocks weigh 700grams in 100% carbon fiber
or 850 grams normal glass/carbon fiber.

i'm acquiring a glass carbon fibre one myself. The weight of 3 packets of taytos won't off put me

Surely IWM you must be a PIMP merchant.

If you have not pimped already have you any pimping ideas?

ejg

The RH40, in this case the howa action is lightened, and an experimental
Lothar Walther stainless/aluminum Barrel fitted. The stock is around 800 grams. Looks 7kg,.... weighs under 3kg.


If one can solve the moderator fitting on such a barrel, I would like one myself for a lightweight hunter, the barrel wouldn't need to be quite as fat.

edi

It wasn't me!

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Surely IWM you must be a PIMP merchant.

If you have not pimped already have you any pimping ideas?

Jaysus you really love that word... To be honest, I'm more or less a traditionalist where hunting rifles are concerned. I like good walnut in mine, and I like them to be extremely well built from the off, feel strong and solid, and shoot very well. That's why I like Sako and similar outfits. My second-hand rifle consistently shoots under an inch with everything I feed it, which is plenty for a stalking rifle, fits well, points well, balances well, has a great trigger and a good barrel, right out of the box. That's why I wouldn't go Remington. Sure, you could make it very accurate, and some of the aftermarket triggers are nice enough, but I don't want to have to replace a barrel, or at the very least have it re-crowned. I don't want to have to ask whether the rifle's free-floated or take a sander to the stock. I don't want to have to deal with aftermarket triggers in a hunting rifle or choose a new stock because the Remington ones are squishy muck. All I've really got planned for my gun is a calibre change down the line, so a re-barrelling and possibly an operation on the bolt face. That's all though. For target rifles, again, while the nature of the game is tweaking, I like to take a solid known quantity and work away with it. I like my Sako for hunting, because it's right straight out of the box, and I like my Anschutz for the same reason, though obviously far more ammo testing and tweaking goes into the target rifle. If someone shows me real benefits, practical benefits, to changing how I do things, I'll be delighted to hear them though, and maybe I'll change, but I figure spending time shooting from a variety of positions with the hunting rifle is far, far more important than changing a 1" shooter to a 1/2" shooter by re-barrelling, re-crowning, glass and pillar bedding and changing out the stock. It's all of shag all use if you can't hold the damn thing steady on your target of choice out to the ranges you want to be able to hit them.

Sparks

I do find there's an aesthetic appeal to a well-made firearm, but (a) this is what I think of when you say pimped:



and (b) I find far more aesthetic appeal in a 10.9, and if I have to have a horribly mismatched and hacked-up frankenrifle to shoot a 10.9, I'll mismatch and hack with a vengeance. More important to look good by shooting a 10.9 than to look good by having the shiniest kit, at least to me

johngalway

If you look real close I think there may be a gun under there somewhere.

Sparks

dwighet

Sparks wrote: »

I do find there's an aesthetic appeal to a well-made firearm, but (a) this is what I think of when you say pimped:



and (b) I find far more aesthetic appeal in a 10.9, and if I have to have a horribly mismatched and hacked-up frankenrifle to shoot a 10.9, I'll mismatch and hack with a vengeance. More important to look good by shooting a 10.9 than to look good by having the shiniest kit, at least to me

Thats something CliveJ would have........

Slug chucker

Here's what I did to mine!
Factory as it came to me:

Fired away stock, trigger and mounts. Put on Ken Farrell picatinny rings and scope rail, changed stock for choate varmint stock and replaced the accu trigger with a Rifle Basics unit. Fitted a millett TRS1 scope on top 4-16X:

Then I changed scope for a Burris laser scope and incorporated the remote into the stock for ease of use, it's a tiny little button now in front of the trigger guard so you just have to tip it with your trigger finger to get a reading. then I got bored and went to work again on it. I machined out the factory stock to take bottom metal for a savage .308, adjusted accuracy international .308 magazines feed lips and fitted side plates so that the mags would feed .223 reliably and inproved the pillar bedding to suit, ta-da!:

Then I found out that the mag capacity was too high and could get me in trouble so I scrapped the project and went back to version 2 with the Choate stock. Which I'm still using!
Cheers,
Slug Chucker

Tackleberrywho

Slug chucker wrote: »

Here's what I did to mine!
Factory as it came to me:

Fired away stock, trigger and mounts. Put on Ken Farrell picatinny rings and scope rail, changed stock for choate varmint stock and replaced the accu trigger with a Rifle Basics unit. Fitted a millett TRS1 scope on top 4-16X:

Then I changed scope for a Burris laser scope and incorporated the remote into the stock for ease of use, it's a tiny little button now in front of the trigger guard so you just have to tip it with your trigger finger to get a reading. then I got bored and went to work again on it. I machined out the factory stock to take bottom metal for a savage .308, adjusted accuracy international .308 magazines feed lips and fitted side plates so that the mags would feed .223 reliably and inproved the pillar bedding to suit, ta-da!:

Then I found out that the mag capacity was too high and could get me in trouble so I scrapped the project and went back to version 2 with the Choate stock. Which I'm still using!
Cheers,
Slug Chucker

That's pimped!

You are allowed more than 5 rounds in a centrefire mag, once it is bolt action

Slug chucker

Hi Tackleberrywho,
The mag capacity was 9 rounds of .223 with the 5 shot .308 mag and 16 with the 10 shot .308 mag. Just felt it a bit much for field use. It can hold 5 X .223's with the standard blind box mag (6 if you top it up) and I've never had to reload it while in the field in any one sitting. One or two rounds always does the trick for what I'm shooting at. I did on the other hand find it much easier to unload compared to the blind box that requires the rounds to be stripped out. It could also handle 75+ grain VLD bullets due to the extra lenght in the mag, these fed no problem where they wouldn't fit in a standard .223 detachable box mag due to the max OAL.
I might revisit it again with a better stock from McMillan in a few years as they have the CNC programme on file to inlet for that botton metal so it would arrive to me ready for use as a drop in ready stock.
Thanks for the positive comment, I love doing mods on firearms (I feel like their mine when it's done if you know what I mean)
Cheers,
Slug Chucker

Hibrion

Nice rifle Slugchucker! Fair flay to you for doing all that stuff yourself. I especially like your detachable mag system; the savage blind mags are a bit of a pain.

I am curious as to why you switched out the factory accutrigger? Seems to get rave reviews from everyone.

Tackleberrywho

Slug chucker wrote: »

Hi Tackleberrywho,
The mag capacity was 9 rounds of .223 with the 5 shot .308 mag and 16 with the 10 shot .308 mag. Just felt it a bit much for field use. It can hold 5 X .223's with the standard blind box mag (6 if you top it up) and I've never had to reload it while in the field in any one sitting. One or two rounds always does the trick for what I'm shooting at. I did on the other hand find it much easier to unload compared to the blind box that requires the rounds to be stripped out. It could also handle 75+ grain VLD bullets due to the extra lenght in the mag, these fed no problem where they wouldn't fit in a standard .223 detachable box mag due to the max OAL.
I might revisit it again with a better stock from McMillan in a few years as they have the CNC programme on file to inlet for that botton metal so it would arrive to me ready for use as a drop in ready stock.
Thanks for the positive comment, I love doing mods on firearms (I feel like their mine when it's done if you know what I mean)
Cheers,
Slug Chucker

I remember back in the day I had 3 35 round 10/22 mags and a speed loader:D
I generally use 5-10 rounds on an average day on bunnies

and 1-2 on deer with the .308.

The range is where large capacity is really required IMHO.
10 round is more than enough for centrefire IMvHO

Slug chucker

Hibrion wrote: »

Nice rifle Slugchucker! Fair flay to you for doing all that stuff yourself. I especially like your detachable mag system; the savage blind mags are a bit of a pain.

I am curious as to why you switched out the factory accutrigger? Seems to get rave reviews from everyone.

Well if you've ever tried a glock trigger it won't pull if you don't engage the trigger safety correctly. Well an accutrigger while in appearance looks like a glock trigger but it act's differently. If you pull the trigger but don't engage the trigger safety blade correctly it uncocks the action. I tried it a number of times on the range using gloves etc and got a number of these safety related off cocks. I only put my finger on the trigger when I intend to fire, I don't need something that might cause me to need to recock my action and miss the shot. Anyway the Rifle Basix trigger IMO is lighter and sweeter than the factory trigger. Horses for courses as they say!
Cheers,
Slug Chucker

ejg

A few Roedale go faster bits that I stuck on my new T3.

The stainless steel scope rail is something realy good. This means I have only one kind of scope mounts for all my rifles as they all have a rail. Interchanging scopes is easy and quick.
The bolt shroud made of stainless is mainly for looks but is certainly a quality upgrade from the plastic bit that sometimes cracks or falls off.

When I saw that huge bolt handle first I laughed, on the rifle it makes sense and handling is actually great. Cycling the bolt with the rifle on the shoulder is a doddle.

So even if these shiny bits look pimp they actually seem well thought through and usefull.
edi

dwighet

ejg wrote: »

A few Roedale go faster bits that I stuck on my new T3.

The stainless steel scope rail is something realy good. This means I have only one kind of scope mounts for all my rifles as they all have a rail. Interchanging scopes is easy and quick.
The bolt shroud made of stainless is mainly for looks but is certainly a quality upgrade from the plastic bit that sometimes cracks or falls off.

When I saw that huge bolt handle first I laughed, on the rifle it makes sense and handling is actually great. Cycling the bolt with the rifle on the shoulder is a doddle.

So even if these shiny bits look pimp they actually seem well thought through and usefull.
edi

Looking flash mate;)
I like the tape holding the flip caps on.... thats a one off custom if i`ve ever seen one...I should of thought of that last season after losing 2 sets...

You all geared up for an assult on the kerry sika then? not long now..

ejg

While I'm at it....
this is a special one-off stock we just made.
The question was asked how light could one make a tactical stock that is of course sturdy enough for all the abuse.
We took on the project as we will do more developement work in this direction anyway.
In this case the swedish customer will inlet the action area himself and fit
his custom long action 308 Norma mag into the stock.
The stock is made of carbon fiber with layers of Kevlar in the critical areas. A big advantage compared to conventional fiberglass stocks is that on this stock the barrel channel and action area has a layer of carbon increasing the stiffness and torsion stiffness.

Total weight for this tactical stock. Including butt pad, 3 swivel studs, epoxy primer, adjustable cheek raiser and metal bits. Total 877 grams.
The inlet milling will get the weight down to around 800 grams.

dwighet

ejg wrote: »

While I'm at it....
this is a special one-off stock we just made.
The question was asked how light could one make a tactical stock that is of course sturdy enough for all the abuse.
We took on the project as we will do more developement work in this direction anyway.
In this case the swedish customer will inlet the action area himself and fit
his custom long action 308 Norma mag into the stock.
The stock is made of carbon fiber with layers of Kevlar in the critical areas. A big advantage compared to conventional fiberglass stocks is that on this stock the barrel channel and action area has a layer of carbon increasing the stiffness and torsion stiffness.

Total weight for this tactical stock. Including butt pad, 3 swivel studs, epoxy primer, adjustable cheek raiser and metal bits. Total 877 grams.
The inlet milling will get the weight down to around 800 grams.

Edi....If you need a crash test dummy for your proto type...My 300 would look so nice sitting in that stock...And I promise i will abuse the sh!t out of it to see how it handles..;)

landkeeper

lads lads when your replying to a post do you really have to quote the whole one its getting a bit tiresome having to scroll down half a page for half a line of a reply :rolleyes:

dwighet

landkeeper wrote: »

lads lads when your replying to a post do you really have to quote the whole one its getting a bit tiresome having to scroll down half a page for half a line of a reply :rolleyes:

Sorry boss... just think of the scolling down as a good workout for your trigger finger:rolleyes:

ormondprop

i'm liking the cheek riser, pretty much the same as a karsten, can you buy them off you and fit em ourselves

tiny-nioclas

I love this thread, It has explained so much to me! Im looking to pimp my Ruger all Weather Hawkeye ( http://ruger.com/products/m77HawkeyeAllWeather/specSheets/7117.html ) can anyone tell me if a hogue M77 long action stock will fit it exactly the same as the origionl does, i believe they are the same except the hawkeye stock is just narrower, Looking at a Hogue full bedded block stock in OD green online,if i can get it shipped here that is, if not can some of you point me in the right direction of changing stocks, im gonna hold onto the Ruger so i might aswell give her some Pimping

Edi, that tactical stock is a beauty, 877grams of perfection! Your gear has "pimp" written all over it!

dwighet

tiny-nioclas wrote: »

I love this thread, It has explained so much to me! Im looking to pimp my Ruger all Weather Hawkeye ( http://ruger.com/products/m77HawkeyeAllWeather/specSheets/7117.html ) can anyone tell me if a hogue M77 long action stock will fit it exactly the same as the origionl does, i believe they are the same except the hawkeye stock is just narrower, Looking at a Hogue full bedded block stock in OD green online,if i can get it shipped here that is, if not can some of you point me in the right direction of changing stocks, im gonna hold onto the Ruger so i might aswell give her some Pimping

Edi, that tactical stock is a beauty, 877grams of perfection! Your gear has "pimp" written all over it!

You will need a short action stock for the 243...

tiny-nioclas

Forgot to mention im a noob still! I'm learning!

dwighet

tiny-nioclas wrote: »

Forgot to mention im a noob still! I'm learning!

Aren`t we all

landkeeper

tiny give john greene a ring he can get almost any stock you want for your ruger i have the same rifle in 223 and have gone with one of these
http://www.midwayuk.com/apps/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?SaleItemID=334907 hope this helps