Do you pay RTE licence fee?

pog it

Don't know how to start a poll, sorry!

Anyhoo, just wondering if anyone pays the TV licence fee?

If so, why?

Pot Noodle =

Ask them to send you an invoice and then send it back with no contract on the front

drBill

pog it wrote: »

Don't know how to start a poll, sorry!

Anyhoo, just wondering if anyone pays the TV licence fee?

If so, why?

I would imagine quite a few people do pay it.
I myself do, the reason being that I am required to do so by law in order to have a TV in my house.

mikemac

pog it wrote: »

If so, why?

I have to.
I mean could you live with the shame? :eek:

Digits

pog it wrote: »

If so, why?

Um its breaking the law?

ScumLord

Don't have a TV so don't pay a license. Internet all the way.

pog it

Well my position is clear. No way would I pay it. I don't answer the door if it's them.

I truly do not understand why people bend over and pay 160 euro for it. It's not like it's not advertisement free.

If you watch RTE, you are doing enough to help them, since you are sitting through insufferable ads, never mind paying 160 euro as well. Far better things to spend the money on.

Pot Noodle =

pog it wrote: »

Well my position is clear. No way would I pay it. I don't answer the door if it's them.

I truly do not understand why people bend over and pay 160 euro for it. It's not like it's not advertisement free.

If you watch RTE, you are doing enough to help them, since you are sitting through insufferable ads, never mind paying 160 euro as well. Far better things to spend the money on.

Now if enough of us thought that way we can change things in this dump

mikemac

It's not just to watch RTE! TG4 also

They fund two orchestras and and a classical quartet from it.
Which do free concerts every summer all over the country if you ever wish to come along.

Pot Noodle =

feelingstressed wrote: »

It's not just to watch RTE! TG4 also

They fund two orchestras and and a classical quartet from it.
Which do free concerts every summer all over the country if you ever wish to come along.

Still does not justify it

mathepac

"Do you pay RTE licence fee?"

If you want to run a poll, aside from learning how to setup a poll, it'd be a good idea to educate yourself about some basic facts.

1. The TV licence fee is not payable to RTE, it is payable to the Minister for Communications
2. Even if you have a TV (or TVs) in your home (or car) and don't watch RTE (or TV3 or TG4) legally you must pay for a TV licence.

As with all licence fees, levies and taxes paid to central government, it does not necessarily pay for the activity or service it is levied on, it's just another form of tax.

K-9

Pot wrote:

Now if enough of us thought that way we can change things in this dump

You realise if nobody paid the licence, we'd have more ads?

Pot Noodle =

K-9 wrote: »

You realise if nobody paid the licence, we'd have more ads?

I have UPC Digital stop the programme for 3/4 mins and then no more ads

longshanks

pog it wrote: »

I truly do not understand why people bend over and pay 160 euro for it.


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whats this about bending over? i just hand the girl in the post office the money and go about my business

mikom

Digits wrote: »

Um its breaking the law?

So are RTE by receiving licence funding as well as showing ads.
They have been fined for this in the past....... but sure ya know the licence fee is well able to cover that.

feelingstressed wrote: »

They fund two orchestras and and a classical quartet from it.

This shite is always trotted out.
Not my job to keep musicians in work.

K-9 wrote: »

You realise if nobody paid the licence, we'd have more ads?

There are laws against this.


For the record I don't pay this TAX.
RTE should be thankful I allow them broadcast their shite rays over my house.

pitkan

pog it wrote: »

Don't know how to start a poll, sorry!

Anyhoo, just wondering if anyone pays the TV licence fee?

If so, why?

Just to make it clear. You are obliged by law to hold a current TV licence if you have a TV receiver in your house/premises. This has nothing to do with RTE or TG4 .Yes, I pay mine and can usually be found watching satellites other than the one which relays the above channels.

K-9

mikom wrote: »

There are laws against this.

Not paying it or more ads?

mikom

K-9 wrote: »

Not paying it or more ads?

Both.

K-9

mikom wrote: »

Both.

That isn't what I meant. If nobody paid it or it was abolished, the revenue would have to come from some where else obviously.

mikom

K-9 wrote: »

If nobody paid it or it was abolished, the revenue would have to come from some where else obviously.

That's if RTE continued as it is.
A bloated relic dragging orchestras and and classical quartets along with it.

Minstrel27

I renewed it only last week. I get good value from it.

mikemac

mikom wrote: »

RTE should be thankful I allow them broadcast their shite rays over my house.

So I take it you didn't watch the World Cup with RTE and have never watched a GAA game in your life?
Not the Olympics on RTE or even the news?

Richard Dower

I have to pay it, people get more jail time for an unpaid licences then they do assault.

amacachi

pog it wrote: »

Well my position is clear. No way would I pay it. I don't answer the door if it's them.

I truly do not understand why people bend over and pay 160 euro for it. It's not like it's not advertisement free.

If you watch RTE, you are doing enough to help them, since you are sitting through insufferable ads, never mind paying 160 euro as well. Far better things to spend the money on.

Unless you've got a box used for counting ratings then you're not helping their ad revenues, and if you had the box I'd be fairly sure you'd have to have a TV licence.

mikom

feelingstressed wrote: »

So I take it you didn't watch the World Cup with RTE and have never watched a GAA game in your life?
Not the Olympics on RTE or even the news?

Here's a tenner........... should about cover it.

K-9

mikom wrote: »

That's if RTE continued as it is.
A bloated relic dragging orchestras and and classical quartets along with it.

True, costs a few Million I think. Think it's because the BBC have one!

In fairness, I can see some merit in that. The over paid "celebs" and the news department going on 2 months holidays in the Summer. irritate me more. Are they teachers or something?

ScrubsfanChris

ScumLord wrote: »

Don't have a TV so don't pay a license. Internet all the way.

Don't you have to pay if you have a Computer monitor or laptop?

Both can easily access RTE Player, or even have DVB-S/DVB-T cards.

120_Minutes

feelingstressed wrote: »

So I take it you didn't watch the World Cup with RTE and have never watched a GAA game in your life?
Not the Olympics on RTE or even the news?

Nope, can I get a refund though? I only pay it cos herself is **** scared of the hefty fine if we're caught, so I only get it when they come looking for it. Mines just up but I've moved since I got it so I'll be putting it off as long as possible

Shea O'Meara

ScumLord wrote: »

Don't have a TV so don't pay a license. Internet all the way.

I've been 'the end is nigh'-ing this for over a decade.
They'll turn on to this at some point as you are technically receiving broadcasts into an aparatus as the law states....hope they don't read these....:(

Shea O'Meara

feelingstressed wrote: »

It's not just to watch RTE! TG4 also

They fund two orchestras and and a classical quartet from it.
Which do free concerts every summer all over the country if you ever wish to come along.

That's a misappropriation of funds! They should stop that right now unless they make a reality show out of it!:)

CokaColumbo

The TV license fee is immoral in my opinion. Why on earth should you have to pay the government such a large amount of money to receive a basic signal into your television set? It doesn't make any sense to me...especially when gangly dry-sh*tes like Ryan Tubrdiy are getting hundreds of thousands of euro a year from, in part, the license fund.

feelingstressed wrote: »

...Which do free concerts every summer all over the country if you ever wish to come along.

Something isn't free if you have to pay for it.

ScumLord

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Don't you have to pay if you have a Computer monitor or laptop?

Both can easily access RTE Player, or even have DVB-S/DVB-T cards.

Shea O'Meara wrote: »

I've been 'the end is nigh'-ing this for over a decade.
They'll turn on to this at some point as you are technically receiving broadcasts into an aparatus as the law states....hope they don't read these....:(

You don't need a license to own a computer, watching shows on a website isn't broadcasting either your downloading files. I believe there is a distinction between the two that mean the license fee doesn't apply to downloading shows off a website.

I'm sure it would be illegal in many different ways to make people pay a tax for such an essential piece of equipment they might as well start charging a license fee for pencils and hammers. It would cripple Ireland if every company had to pay a license to run computers, although it really wouldn't surprise me if this moronic government tried it. It would mean a mass exodus of businesses out of Ireland though.

Richard Dower

Remember folks...you need a licenece for EVERY tv in your house, so if you have four tv's you need four licences!

K-9

Richard Dower wrote: »

Remember folks...you need a licenece for EVERY tv in your house, so if you have four tv's you need four licences!

Don't think so. We need a link!

Pot

Pot wrote:

I have UPC Digital stop the programme for 3/4 mins and then no more ads

There are still ads, you're just going through them at a slightly faster pace. If you only stop the programme for 3/4 minutes then you're going to run into ads about half way into the second ad break.

Minstrel27

Richard Dower wrote: »

Remember folks...you need a licenece for EVERY tv in your house, so if you have four tv's you need four licences!

Absolute lies. Get your facts straight before spouting nonsense.

Mr E

I pay my TV License by Direct Debit. There is an option to pay €13.50 or so a month which is much less of a sting than the €160 once a year.

The facts:
(taken from here: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/consumer-affairs/media/tv_licences)

If your household, business or institution possesses a television or equipment capable of receiving a television signal, you are required by law to have a television licence. Even if the television or other equipment is broken and currently unable to receive a signal, it is regarded as capable of being repaired so it can receive a signal and you must hold a licence for it. Failure to produce evidence of a television licence to an inspector can result in a court appearance and on conviction, you can receive a substantial fine. People who have been fined and who have breached court orders directing them to pay their television licence can be imprisoned.

You do not require a television licence to watch television on your computer or mobile phone. However, you do require a licence if the computer is used together with any other apparatus to receive a signal.

A television licence is issued for one year after which it must be renewed again.

If I have two television sets in my home do I need licences for them both?

If the equipment capable of receiving a television signal (for example a television set or a personal computer) is held in a household (an apartment, flat or a house), then one television licence will cover multiple pieces of equipment. In other words, if you have a television set in your living room and kitchen, one television licence covers both sets.

Rented accommodation

If you are a tenant living in rented accommodation with a television you must have a television licence. This applies irrespective of who owns the television (whether the television belongs to you or the landlord). The law states that anyone resident on a premises in possession of a television set must have a television licence.

Moving to a new home

If you are moving house, it is possible and highly advisable to have your television licence transferred to your new address. Simply bring your existing licence to your nearest Post Office, together with evidence of your new address (that is a household utility bill or a bank statement). Staff in your Post Office will then amend the details on your record and your licence will be updated and re-issued to you. This service is free.

Television licences for holiday homes/second homes

If your holiday home/second home contains a television, or equipment capable of receiving a television signal (using an aerial, satellite dish, cable or other means), then this household must also have a television licence. This is the case even if this is not your main residence and you already hold a licence for your main address. Failure to have a television licence where this is required can result in penalties.

Moving to Ireland from another jurisdiction

It is not possible to transfer a television licence from another jurisdiction to Ireland. Television licences for Ireland can only be purchased here and are only valid here. This means that if you transfer residence from Northern Ireland or another country (either in the EU or outside the EU) you must still purchase a television licence here.

Even if you will be remaining in Ireland for a short time, you are required to have a television licence. Each licence is issued for a 1 year period; this means that if you will be staying in Ireland for less than 1 year, you must still obtain a full television licence. You cannot obtain a refund on the licence fee if you will be leaving Ireland before the licence expires.

Penalties

Conviction for non-payment of a television licence (first offence) is a fine of up to €1,000.

If you are convicted a second time or more for not paying your television licence, you will be fined up to €2,000.

shakin

we pay, for the news, current affairs and unrivalled sports coverage and analysis its well worth it, had sky and got rid of it, pure sh1te and always repeats.

Johnmb

shakin wrote: »

we pay, for the news, current affairs and unrivalled sports coverage and analysis its well worth it, had sky and got rid of it, pure sh1te and always repeats.

If that's the way you feel, then by all means continue to pay for it, but why should the rest of us? Let those who want it pay for it on a subscription basis, and the rest of us can go happily about our lives without the government trying to extort more money from us for something we don't want.

ScrubsfanChris

ScumLord wrote: »

You don't need a license to own a computer, watching shows on a website isn't broadcasting either your downloading files. I believe there is a distinction between the two that mean the license fee doesn't apply to downloading shows off a website.

I didn't say anything about downloading shows.
And the TV Licence also pays for the RTE Player.

From Mr E's post:

If the equipment capable of receiving a television signal (for example a television set or a personal computer) is held in a household (an apartment, flat or a house), then one television licence will cover multiple pieces of equipment. In other words, if you have a television set in your living room and kitchen, one television licence covers both sets.

Brendog

YES!!!

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Minstrel27

Johnmb wrote: »

If that's the way you feel, then by all means continue to pay for it, but why should the rest of us? Let those who want it pay for it on a subscription basis, and the rest of us can go happily about our lives without the government trying to extort more money from us for something we don't want.

You are not paying for RTÉ. You are paying for a licence to own a television. If you do not want to pay it then get rid of your television.

Johnmb

Minstrel27 wrote: »

You are not paying for RTÉ. You are paying for a licence to own a television. If you do not want to pay it then get rid of your television.

If it is, as you claim, just for the privilege of using the TV, then certainly I ask why should I pay it? Why shouldn't I be allowed to own a TV, just like I can own just about anything else, without paying a fee for absolutely no reason whatsoever? (Which is what you are claiming the Licence fee is for if it is not for RTE!)

newbie2

20goto10

pog it wrote: »

Don't know how to start a poll, sorry!

Anyhoo, just wondering if anyone pays the TV licence fee?

If so, why?

Yeah stick it to the man! Why pay any taxes?? I mean Ireland is such a kip why should we pay for anything? :rolleyes:

20goto10

Johnmb wrote: »

If it is, as you claim, just for the privilege of using the TV, then certainly I ask why should I pay it? Why shouldn't I be allowed to own a TV, just like I can own just about anything else, without paying a fee for absolutely no reason whatsoever? (Which is what you are claiming the Licence fee is for if it is not for RTE!)

Because its a tax ffs, get over. Why should I have to pay extra to cover all the tax dodgers out there? Pay up or I'll rat on you.

mikom

20goto10 wrote: »

Yeah stick it to the man! Why pay any taxes??

I expect adequate services in return for my taxes.
If I feel money is being pissed away then I will do my best to avoid propping up the urinator.

K-9

We do get BBC for free as well!

Johnmb

20goto10 wrote: »

Because its a tax ffs, get over. Why should I have to pay extra to cover all the tax dodgers out there? Pay up or I'll rat on you.

Well if that is their official line then they are going to run into constitutional problems. RTE are paid based on the amount of Licence fees collected, that means that a certain proportion of the licence fee is ring fenced for a specific purpose. The constitution forbids such ring fencing for any taxes, they must all go into a central fund which is then allocated as part of the budget, and no area can be granted money based on the amount of a specific tax. That's why it is called a licence fee, not a tv tax, i.e. it is not a tax, it can't be on constitutional grounds.

eightyfish

mikom wrote: »

So are RTE by receiving licence funding as well as showing ads.
They have been fined for this in the past.

Until you provide a link I'll presume this is rubbish.

Minstrel27

Johnmb wrote: »

Well if that is their official line then they are going to run into constitutional problems. RTE are paid based on the amount of Licence fees collected, that means that a certain proportion of the licence fee is ring fenced for a specific purpose. The constitution forbids such ring fencing for any taxes, they must all go into a central fund which is then allocated as part of the budget, and no area can be granted money based on the amount of a specific tax. That's why it is called a licence fee, not a tv tax, i.e. it is not a tax, it can't be on constitutional grounds.

Go march on the Dáil then. It is obvious that you are not willing to listen to anybody on here.