Why is Sarah Palin still getting air time?

Roro4Brit

I know it's fox news and all but why oh why is Sarah Palin still being considered as a candidate for 2012?

I think it was Friday's O'Reilly Factor she was on trying to talk about immigration control and this is how it went...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dlZwM-eZkA

This is absolutely terrifying.

1. O'Reilly practically has to give her a lesson on Immigration 101
2. He has to spoon feed her the answers that he knows her posse want to hear
3. Her face and tone of voice is rife with ignorance and I can sense her panic when a direct questions comes
4. Her answers couldn't possibly be more generic and uninformed - 'what ever it takes' and 'let's not give them a free pass'
5. Yet another vomit inducing anology is dragged up - 'Mama Grizzly and her cubs' - seriously, you've got to be kidding me.
6. Her only position is an Anti-Obama one. Putting yourself as an Anti-Dem is not a solution to political and economic problems.

I like Bill O. I really do. Even though I disagree with 90% of what he says, I watch nearly all of his news segments on YT, but I know that he knows in his heart of hears that Sarah Palin is a pathetic excuse for a political candidate. Why won't he just call the bitch out? He's got bills to pay like us all, but I'm hoping that some day when she is on the Factor that he will just snap and call her out for the idiot that she is, in real Bill O guns-a-blazin style.

Seriously though, do you guys think Palin is still in the running for 2012 or is it just Fox News still flogging a dead donkey?

dlofnep

Because she's a celebrity. She clearly doesn't have a clue.

mikemac

That wasn't an interview, she was spoon fed for the entire thing and just required to give quick answers for everything

Memnoch

Because there are countless idiots out there in the US, at or below her level of intellect (scary, I know), that hang on her every word like some word of gospel that will deliver them from the clutches of their terrorist, Muslim, un-american, communist President.

argosy2006

MisterAnarchy

Roro4Brit wrote: »

Bill O guns-a-blazin style.

Seriously though, do you guys think Palin is still in the running for 2012 or is it just Fox News still flogging a dead donkey?

She has about as much chance of winning the Republican candidacy as Scooby Doo

Overheal

it reminds me of the Alvin Greene interviews

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-june-14-2010/alvin-greene-wins-south-carolina-primary

Denerick

It makes me sick that an idiot like her is in a position of national relevance.

My dream would be for the Republicans to choose her as their candidate, and permanantly destroy the party. I'd also love it if Obama schooled her in a debate, showing absolutely no tact or holding anything back. Destroy her on her 'policies'. Ask her where Uzbekistan is. That sort of thing.

If ever any politician was proof that the American people were unfit to lead an Empire, then that would be Sarah Palin. Her idiocy is simply unforgivable.

Mjollnir

Denerick wrote: »

It makes me sick that an idiot like her is in a position of national relevance.

Then breath easier, because she's not even close to a position of national relevance. She's just in a position of national prominence.

My dream would be for the Republicans to choose her as their candidate, and permanantly destroy the party. I'd also love it if Obama schooled her in a debate, showing absolutely no tact or holding anything back. Destroy her on her 'policies'. Ask her where Uzbekistan is. That sort of thing.

If ever any politician was proof that the American people were unfit to lead an Empire, then that would be Sarah Palin. Her idiocy is simply unforgivable.

kev9100

Can some of the Palin supporters who post in this forum please explain why you like her? I know you guys are conservative and have very different views to myself, but that woman is just really, really dumb.

Denerick

Mjollnir wrote: »

Then breath easier, because she's not even close to a position of national relevance. She's just in a position of national prominence.

Thats wishful thinking. Millions of women across the midwest idolise her. She has become a conservative icon, quite like Phyllis Schalfly.

I think the rest of the world should pray the Republicans nominate her. Whatever Americans think of Obama, they'll take one look at her and have a heart attack at the thought of that moron having access to the nuclear button.

sink

Truth is, even if by some miracle she managed to get elected president she still wouldn't be running the country. She doesn't seem to be a problem solver of any sort, she's not capable of coming up with her own policies. Instead she would rely entirely on the advise from an inner circle within her administration. A bit like the way Bush had Rumsfeld and Cheney constantly directing him, but even more so.

Denerick

sink wrote: »

Truth is, even if by some miracle she managed to get elected president she still wouldn't be running the country. She doesn't seem to be a problem solver of any sort, she's not capable of coming up with her own policies. Instead she would rely entirely on the advise from an inner circle within her administration. A bit like the way Bush had Rumsfeld and Cheney constantly directing him, but even more so.

She was given a foreign policy workout by Joe Lieberman in preparation for the Vice Presidents debate. She literally didn't know where any country outside of the North American continent was on a globe.

She is an unadulterated idiot and its terrifying to think that this woman could become the commander in chief of the mightiest military machine the world has ever seen.

To be frank, I don't call many people idiots. I might call them many other things, but not that. It presumes too much and is unfair. But she is the stupidist person to have ever had public office or stood any chance of the Presidency. Bush was a genius compared to this woman.

Mjollnir

Denerick wrote: »

Thats wishful thinking. Millions of women across the midwest idolise her. She has become a conservative icon, quite like Phyllis Schalfly.

Nah, I don't see the millions who idolize her, and Schlafly is a has-been bump in the road of history.

I think the rest of the world should pray the Republicans nominate her. Whatever Americans think of Obama, they'll take one look at her and have a heart attack at the thought of that moron having access to the nuclear button.

Agreed. She's a mouth-breathing idiot.

Denerick

Mjollnir wrote: »

Nah, I don't see the millions who idolize her, and Schlafly is a has-been bump in the road of history.

You don't see them? Maybe you just aren't looking? It doesn't mean they aren't there.

Amerika

"President Obama has spoken out against the law because he thinks that the federal government should be determining immigration policy. And the Justice Department, under his direction, will be bringing a lawsuit against the act."

Those were the words leaked out by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a recent interview in Ecuador.

"Under his direction." So the White House is calling the shots for the justice department in this administration. Where is the outrage, and does anybody here see a problem with any of this?

I guess not... (and you people call Sarah Palin stupid. Makes me laugh!)

Overheal

Amerika wrote: »

"President Obama has spoken out against the law because he thinks that the federal government should be determining immigration policy. And the Justice Department, under his direction, will be bringing a lawsuit against the act."

Those were the words leaked out by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a recent interview in Ecuador.

"Under his direction." So the White House is calling the shots for the justice department in this administration. Where is the outrage, and does anybody here see a problem with any of this?

I guess not... (any you people call Sarah Palin stupid. Makes me laugh!)

Alberto Gonzalez; George W. Bush.

/done.

Amerika

Overheal wrote: »

/done.

Only when Holder resigns.

Or if you're okay with Holder, then you should be okay with Gonzalez by your thinking.

Oh never mind, just another obvious case of Democrat-good... Republican-bad... Palin-evil.

Denerick

Amerika wrote: »

Oh never mind, just another obvious case of Democrat-good... Republican-bad... Palin-retarded.

Fixed your post for you.

Nodin

Amerika wrote: »

"President Obama (......) Makes me laugh!)

None of that really answers to Mrs Palin, really.....

Amerika

Just pointing out the idiocy of the Palin comments, when there are real political concerns that the dolts won’t even consider. Sad really.

sink

Amerika wrote: »

"President Obama has spoken out against the law because he thinks that the federal government should be determining immigration policy. And the Justice Department, under his direction, will be bringing a lawsuit against the act."

Those were the words leaked out by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a recent interview in Ecuador.

"Under his direction." So the White House is calling the shots for the justice department in this administration. Where is the outrage, and does anybody here see a problem with any of this?

I guess not... (and you people call Sarah Palin stupid. Makes me laugh!)

Em, the DOJ is part of the executive branch of the US government and as such comes under direct control of the President and always has. The DOJ is responsible for prosecuting federal law. It is a separate institution to the US federal courts and the judiciary which is perhaps where you are getting confused. The federal courts operate independently of the executive and legislative branches and rule on cases brought by the DOJ.

What exactly is there to be outraged about?

Amerika

sink wrote: »

Em, the DOJ is part of the executive branch of the US government and as such comes under direct control of the President and always has. The DOJ is responsible for prosecuting federal law. It is a separate institution to the US federal courts and the judiciary which is perhaps where you are getting confused. The federal courts operate independently of the executive and legislative branches and rule on cases brought by the DOJ.

What exactly is there to be outraged about?

Simple, as another example... how exactly was justice served with Holder dropping the slam-dunk case of voter intimidation against the Black Panthers? Does anybody see a problem with Obama using the US Attorney Generals office as his own personal political police?

Gee... why bother when all anger needs to be unleashed against Sarah Palin becasue she got another headline. God, I think Palin should be on Obama's payroll for all the abuse she's taken, which deflects where anger really should be directed... Obama's constant misuse of power.

Nodin

Amerika wrote: »

Just pointing out the idiocy of the Palin comments, when there are real political concerns that the dolts won’t even consider. Sad really.

Well, if you feel they aren't being addressed then start threads on them. Their existence or otherwise does still not answer the OP's question though.

Amerika

Na, I think I’ll just keep adding real concerns that currently face us, that our oh-so-smart goupthink bunch of “individuals” completely ignores in favor of calling Palin stupid at any given chance.

Nodin

.....never a good idea to announce that you're purposely trying to derail a thread.

sink

Amerika wrote: »

Simple, as another example... how exactly was justice served with Holder dropping the slam-dunk case of voter intimidation against the Black Panthers? Does anybody see a problem with Obama using the US Attorney Generals office as his own personal political police?

Gee... why bother when all anger needs to be unleashed against Sarah Palin becasue she got another headline. God, I think Palin should be on Obama's payroll for all the abuse she's taken, which deflects where anger really should be directed... Obama's constant misuse of power.

I see your point although I'm not familiar with the case. However I happen to agree with him to-wit immigration being a federal matter. It is his prerogative as head of the executive branch as to what the DOJ pursues. Do you have any sources regarding the Black Panther case (the less republican biased the better)?

This all has very little to do with Palin being an idiot.

Amerika

sink wrote: »

I see your point although I'm not familiar with the case. However I happen to agree with him to-wit immigration being a federal matter. It is his prerogative as head of the executive branch as to what the DOJ pursues. Do you have any sources regarding the Black Panther case (the less republican biased the better)?

This all has very little to do with Palin being an idiot.

No intent to derail the thread, just tired of all the Palin bashing for the sake of Palin bashing. And Palin is addressed in every one of my responses.

Face it folks, she won’t be President in 2012, but she will be a force in getting Conservatives elected come this November. And if either or both the House or Senate flips, it will in part be because of her actions. Pretty damn smart in my opinion.

As for sources for real concerns, here you go. And if the MSM fails to do their job and report news that just might be (GOD FORBID) unfavorable to Obama's administration, you can’t condemn other news sources for doing the right thing.:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/behind_us_arizona_pure_politics_doTiHt4iEpjt4mlSMPMvlO
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703636404575353052562578046.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Reverse-discrimination-in-New-Black-Panther-case-97891039.html

BluePlanet

So your sources are all just Op-ed pieces then?

sink

Amerika wrote: »

As for sources for real concerns, here you go. And if the MSM fails to do their job and report news that just might be (GOD FORBID) unfavorable to Obama's administration, you can’t condemn other news sources for doing the right thing.:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/behind_us_arizona_pure_politics_doTiHt4iEpjt4mlSMPMvlO
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703636404575353052562578046.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Reverse-discrimination-in-New-Black-Panther-case-97891039.html

That is very worrying indeed. However I fail to see what Obama has to gain politically by calling off the prosecution or lose in the case of a successful one. I don't see why he would directly involve himself in this case unless he wants to commit political suicide. I can only conclude that I have not heard the full story.

Nodin

Amerika wrote: »

No intent to derail the thread, just tired of all the Palin bashing for the sake of Palin bashing. And Palin is addressed in every one of my responses.

Face it folks, she won’t be President in 2012, but she will be a force in getting Conservatives elected come this November. And if either or both the House or Senate flips, it will in part be because of her actions. Pretty damn smart in my opinion.

...odd, considering that its taken by probably the majority of analysts from all sides that her performance was one of the main problems of the McCain campaign, and that her appeal to a certain element of Republican grass roots support is far outweighed by her ability to alienate offend and frighten everyone else.

Amerika

BluePlanet wrote: »

So your sources are all just Op-ed pieces then?

It seems these days "Opinion Journalists" and "Reports" have reversed rolls. And in addition to the DOJ stories, Sarah Palin news articles seems to prove that out. Really sad state of affairs when the National Enquirer seems to do a better job of investigative reporting than the NYTimes.

Amerika

sink wrote: »

I don't see why he would directly involve himself in this case unless he wants to commit political suicide.

It's only political suicide if the MSM would happen to report the facts and truth.

Case in point Palin. How many favorable articles have you read? And she is a strong political force who has helped Conservatives to already get elected.

Amerika

Nodin wrote: »

...odd, considering that its taken by probably the majority of analysts from all sides that her performance was one of the main problems of the McCain campaign, and that her appeal to a certain element of Republican grass roots support is far outweighed by her ability to alienate offend and frighten everyone else.

She has stated in the past (after the November 2008 election) that her goal is to help get Conservatives elected into office, and she hasn't decided on a run for the President. Seems like she has kept her promise, and has already accomplished those lofty goals... without the aid of a teleprompter attached to the hip.

sink

Amerika wrote: »

It's only political suicide if the MSM would happen to report the facts and truth.

Case in point Palin. How many favorable articles have you read? And she is a strong political force who has helped Conservatives to already get elected.

There still has to be some motivation behind it. It makes no sense. Even if he could bury the story so that no one ever heard about why would he do it the first place? What's his motivation?

Denerick

Amerika wrote: »

It's only political suicide if the MSM would happen to report the facts and truth.

Case in point Palin. How many favorable articles have you read? And she is a strong political force who has helped Conservatives to already get elected.

Why would she get a favourable article? She's a cheap demagogue manipulated by infinitely more intelligent minds. I can't stand conservative critiques of the mainstream media - why the hell should they have to flatter morons?

Amerika

sink wrote: »

There still has to be some motivation behind it. It makes no sense. Even if he could bury the story so that no one ever heard about why would he do it the first place? What's his motivation?

He is an idealist. He, Pelosi and Reid will be okay no matter what happens. He fundamentially wants to change America (for the worse IMO). And Pailin wants to change it for the better IMO.

Ever see the cost vs the income for Illegal Aliens:
http://www.marklevinshow.com/goout.asp?u=http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/070110FairExecutiveSummary.pdf

Here is something that should scare everyone (from HufPo)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ernest-istook/beware-the-lame-ducks_b_614934.html

rovert

Amerika wrote: »

http://www.marklevinshow.com/goout.asp?u=http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/070110FairExecutiveSummary.pdf

Consider the source

Amerika

rovert wrote: »

Consider the source

Ad Hominem attacks are all you got? Anything about the data?

sink

Amerika wrote: »

He is an idealist. He, Pelosi and Reid will be okay no matter what happens. He fundamentially wants to change America (for the worse IMO). And Pailin wants to change it for the better IMO.

I still don't see how protecting Black Panthers from voter intimidation charges is following his ideals. Things have to make sense in order for me to find them credible. This makes no sense.

Amerika wrote: »

Ever see the cost vs the income for Illegal Aliens:
http://www.marklevinshow.com/goout.asp?u=http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/070110FairExecutiveSummary.pdf

Here is something that should scare everyone (from HufPo)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ernest-istook/beware-the-lame-ducks_b_614934.html

This conversation is meandering all over the place. I have nothing but disdain for HuffPo due to the pseudo-scientific garbage that passes for worthy news there. And Mark Levin? The guy would consider Ireland a communist state with our social welfare and socialised medicine being tools of oppression.

rovert

Amerika wrote: »

Ad Hominem attacks are all you got? Anything about the data?

Id rather believe a non-partisan study over a immigration reform body thats all especially when it comes to American politics and this issue in particular.

Amerika

sink wrote: »

I still don't see how protecting Black Panthers from voter intimidation charges is following his ideals. Things have to make sense in order for me to find them credible. This makes no sense.

This might give you some insight. I think anyone with a lick of common sence could figure it out.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/87/276/DOJ_Attorney_Resigns_Over_New_Black_Panther_Case,_Blows_Whistle_on_Holders_DOJ.html

sink

Amerika wrote: »

This might give you some insight. I think anyone with a lick of common sence could figure it out.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/87/276/DOJ_Attorney_Resigns_Over_New_Black_Panther_Case,_Blows_Whistle_on_Holders_DOJ.html

Payback? Obama is purposely allowing the black panthers to intimidate white voters at polling stations, because he wants payback for historic racial discrimination? Seriously?

You and 9/11 truthers are opposite sides of the same coin if you ask me.

Overheal

Amerika wrote: »

This might give you some insight. I think anyone with a lick of common sence could figure it out.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/87/276/DOJ_Attorney_Resigns_Over_New_Black_Panther_Case,_Blows_Whistle_on_Holders_DOJ.html

I would gladly discuss the Black Panther Case in another thread, should you wish to start one up.

I'm not sure what it has to do with Sarah Palin.

Amerika

sink wrote: »

Payback? Obama is purposely allowing the black panthers to intimidate white voters at polling stations, because he wants payback for historic racial discrimination? Seriously?

You and 9/11 truthers are opposite sides of the same coin if you ask me.

Okay maybe it’s not so obvious to some. Obama has the Democrats left in his corner (and 17% of them now look at him unfavorably). The independents, those most responsible for putting him into the Presidency, are leaving him in droves. Obama is using political racial ploys in both the Arizona law and Black Panther matters in an attempt to cement the Hispanic and Black vote going into the November elections. It's a political game of numbers. I don’t think it will help much, and it comes at the cost of what is best for America. IMO

And did anybody see the softball CBS interview of Bob Seifert and Eric Holder. No tough questions and Seifert even spouted the ignorant misleading characterizations of the Arizona law. An example of journalism at it's worst. I know Seifert would not have been so soft on Sarah Palin in an interview. IMO

Denerick

Amerika wrote: »

Okay maybe it’s not so obvious to some. Obama has the Democrats left in his corner (and 17% of them now look at him unfavorably). The independents, those most responsible for putting him into the Presidency, are leaving him in droves. Obama is using political racial ploys in both the Arizona law and Black Panther matters in an attempt to cement the Hispanic and Black vote going into the November elections. It's a political game of numbers. I don’t think it will help much, and it comes at the cost of what is best for America. IMO

Tactically that would be hysterically stupid.

Blacks WILL vote for Obama even if he re-introduces the Jim Crow Laws.

Hispanics will choose Obama when the alternative are chest thumping 'patriots' who want brown people to get the hell out of the country.

It would be ridiculous for Obama to consider sacrificing the white vote for the sake of a few thousand extra Hispanic votes.

Have you considered that perhaps Obama is motived by personal principle, not political opportunism? The Arizona law codifies racial profiling and its a disgraceful breach of human rights. Its also a worrying precedent.

Amerika

Denerick wrote: »

Its also a worrying precedent.

A “worrying precedent” to put some teeth behind a Federal law that our federal government refuses to enforce because of political reasons? Maybe, just maybe, the people of Arizona fear for their lives because of the invasion of illegal aliens, which has made the state one of the most deadly regions of America. You sir make me laugh at times.

Denerick

Amerika wrote: »

You sir make me laugh at times.

The love is reciprocated, believe me

Scofflaw

Amerika, are you actually discussing Sarah Palin? From where I'm sitting, it looks like you're trying to make this thread about Obama and the Black Panthers.

moderately,
Scofflaw

Mjollnir

Amerika wrote: »

Simple, as another example... how exactly was justice served with Holder dropping the slam-dunk case of voter intimidation against the Black Panthers? Does anybody see a problem with Obama using the US Attorney Generals office as his own personal political police?

Gee... why bother when all anger needs to be unleashed against Sarah Palin becasue she got another headline. God, I think Palin should be on Obama's payroll for all the abuse she's taken, which deflects where anger really should be directed... Obama's constant misuse of power.

Yawn. As usual, there's a wee bit more to that pathetic RW talking point than you've bothered to cite.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/07/michael-mukasey-and-the-new-black-panthers.html

Amerika

Scofflaw wrote: »

Amerika, are you actually discussing Sarah Palin? From where I'm sitting, it looks like you're trying to make this thread about Obama and the Black Panthers.

moderately,
Scofflaw

As you asked a question in your mod capacity, so I guess I need to respond.

I’m been trying to concentrate on Palin. If you read earlier in the thread, I think you can see that. Yeah, in my original post I pointed out a couple of issues that I thought were more important than the constant ad nauseam Palin bashing (which I consider to be legitimate point in this discussion). But it seems these other issues are what other posters, who were not identified in your post, gleamed upon, and keep dragging me out of topic with questions.

I understand your point and I will not respond in this thread again to anything except for the Palin bashing, no matter how much the folks try and bait me (use the above post #50 as an example, which was posted after your mod point).