Whats wrong with people..??

thebullkf

:(


i started a thread earlier in relation to a pub being taken over by a group
of "men"....{i use the term loosely..animals behave better
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=66821366#post66821366 }
SO...
i was talking to a friend earlier....about this incident,the Gardaí,Travellers,and general scum and their criminal records etc.
and i really do feel despair at what kind of a country we've become..
{or maybe already were,and its the reporting of these crimes thats increased and not the crimes themselves}
for instance:
the arsonist in that garage...120k damage=suspended sentence.
politicians relation+child abuse=suspended sentence.
Men filing into court to shake the hand of a rapist in front of his VICTIM!
i could go on....

scumbags who kill someone/maim/steal and its discovered at their trial they have 'x' number of convictions..{usually double figures}
and nothings been done about it.-till then.
usually though the damage is already doneandits too late.
the buddy i spoke to recalled an incident when aburglar was caught on the road having tried to steal his car....gardaí duly arrived...and the razzer told him and it was this guy's fourth time that night being arrested.!!!!
i feel we've gone too far in the wrong direction..used to be too far in the 'PC' direction...ie couldn't swear/show nudity on TV..
now i think its swung completely the opposite.
i think we've become de-sensitised/used to/ignoring/accepted this type of behaviour and attitude.
don't get me wrong,i'm fairly liberal,
but......
*i'm actually amazed there hasn't been a lynching or someone just snapping and going nuts.. a lá USA..*
I think one of the problems is social isolation.
ack of community spirit....
we have never been more able to span great distances,connect and reach out to each other via our Telecommunications advancements than ever before yet the biggest killer of young men in Ireland in the year 2010 is..???

SUICIDE

HOW THE FÚCK HAS THIS HAPPENED????
...in fact i don't know what the solution is.....
whatever happened to :
you're hungry?...here half my lunch
i'm hungry,thanks for sharing....
i mean FFS its better to light a candle than curse the darkness...
whats wrong with people these days...?????

Biggins

Ok OP, I feel your pain but less of the huge spaces?

Hank_Jones

I took one look at how that post was laid out and decided to not bother actually reading it.

thebullkf

Biggins wrote: »

Ok OP, I feel your pain but less of the huge spaces?

okhorseisthisok.?

joking

MitchKoobski

ts;dr
(too spaced;didnt read)

alwaysadub

Trying to read all that on a mobile is head wrecking.
Is there a tl;dr version?

mikemac

thebullkf wrote: »

we have never been more able to span great distances,connect and reach out to each other via our Telecommunications advancements than ever before yet the biggest killer of young men in Ireland in the year 2010 is..???

SUICIDE

HOW THE FÚCK HAS THIS HAPPENED????

I thought it was road traffic accidents
I'm not doubting you, if you say that's the case I believe you

tommyhaas

Hank_Jones wrote: »

I took one look at how that post was laid out and decided to not bother actually reading it.

Yet you still decided to reply?????

thebullkf

Hank_Jones wrote: »

I took one look at how that post was laid out and decided to not bother actually reading it.

then why bother posting

GTFO.

Jumpy

thebullkf wrote: »

whatever happened to :

you're hungry?...here half my lunch.

Harney.

thebullkf

tommyhaas wrote: »

Yet you still decided to reply?????

beat me to it:cool:

rovert

****ing unreadable thread.

thebullkf

feelingstressed wrote: »

I thought it was road traffic accidents
I'm not doubting you, if you say that's the case I believe you

sorry between the ages of 19-55;)


its a damning indictment of our society.

even if its third on the list.

would you agree?

thebullkf

rovert wrote: »

****ing unreadable thread.

then dont post.

simples.

Biggins

OP - with the greatest of respect, your first post is very hard to read.
I agree with what you have said but I too had a problem making my way through it.

Its just food for thought for any future posts. Respect.

super_furry

I have no idea what's going on in here!

Spaceman, I always wanted you to go into space man...

TheInquisitor

As far as im concerned there are too many laws protecting the criminals and criminalizing innocent victims and secondly its so difficult to actually jail an offender. Once someone has lets say 3 convictions it should be made much easier to prosecute them in future convitions. Fast track them to jail almost.

People say you have to rehabiliate them but F*ucking hell once you have a few convictions under your belt you've chosen your life. Time has shown us rehabiliation does not work some people in this owrld are just scum and should be treated as such.

thebullkf

EDIT:

Post is 'fixed':rolleyes:

say thankya

mikemac

TheInquisitor wrote: »

As far as im concerned there are too many laws protecting the criminals and criminalizing innocent victims and secondly its so difficult to actually jail an offender.

Can't agree with you there on the first point
We have very stringent laws in this state

For example the Offenses against the State Act was originally brought in the combat the IRA and threats to the state.
But it is now used against serious criminals and you can be convicted just on the word of a garda superintendent.

We have the special criminal court with doesn't have a jury but three judges. It doesn't have to be judges though, equally you could be judged by three army officers though I don't think that's ever been done.

There are many European countries without these.

But something is going wrong and it's not working and that's where your second point comes in

thebullkf

TheInquisitor wrote: »

As far as im concerned there are too many laws protecting the criminals and criminalizing innocent victims and secondly its so difficult to actually jail an offender. Once someone has lets say 3 convictions it should be made much easier to prosecute them in future convitions. Fast track them to jail almost.

People say you have to rehabiliate them but F*ucking hell once you have a few convictions under your belt you've chosen your life. Time has shown us rehabiliation does not work some people in this owrld are just scum and should be treated as such.

agree....agree...agree... {jails are full though...and cost a bomb}
thats another thing..why don't thugs pay for their own time in jail????

easyeason3

thebullkf wrote: »

agree....agree...agree... {jails are full though...and cost a bomb}
thats another thing..why don't thugs pay for their own time in jail????

Because paying for their own jail time would encourage more crime if they even took it seriously.

But hard labour to earn their keep wouldn't go astray, it might even help upskill some of them.

starbelgrade

My eyes are hurting me.

thebullkf

starbelgrade wrote: »

My eyes are hurting me.

??

rovert

Some low level thread making here

thebullkf

:rolleyes:

rovert wrote: »

Some low level thread making here

well maybe if people actually bothered their arse to voice an opinion instead of moaning,trolling and basically acting the bollocks then maybe a thread will surface

rovert

thebullkf wrote: »

:rolleyes:


well maybe if people actually bothered their arse to voice an opinion instead of moaning,trolling and basically acting the bollocks then maybe a thread will surface

I knew you would make this response.

chopperbyrne

The OP was too poorly laid out
for {me to read}.

Hank_Jones

thebullkf wrote: »

then why bother posting

GTFO.

If I don't tell you, how will you ever learn how to post properly?...

Biggins

I started a thread earlier in relation to a pub being taken over by a group of "men" ...I use the term loosely ...animals behave better:
See http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=66821366#post66821366

So I was talking to a friend earlier ...about this incident, the Gardaí, Travellers, and general scum and their criminal records etc. And I really do feel despair at what kind of a country we've become... (or maybe already were, and its the reporting of these crimes thats increased and not the crimes themselves)

For instance:
The arsonist in that garage ...120k damage= suspended sentence.
Politicians relation + child abuse= suspended sentence.
Men filing into court to shake the hand of a rapist in front of his VICTIM!
I could go on....

Scumbags who kill someone/maim/steal and its discovered at their trial they have 'x' number of convictions (usually double figures) and nothings been done about it - till then. Usually though the damage is already done and its too late.

The buddy I spoke to recalled an incident when a burglar was caught on the road having tried to steal his car ...Gardaí duly arrived ...and the razzer told him and it was this guy's fourth time that night being arrested!

I feel we've gone too far in the wrong direction. Used to be too far in the 'PC' direction.
I.E: couldn't swear/show nudity on TV. Now i think its swung completely the opposite.
I think we've become de-sensitised/used to/ignoring/accepted this type of behaviour and attitude.
Don't get me wrong, I'm fairly liberal but...

* I'm actually amazed there hasn't been a lynching or someone just snapping and going nuts.. a lá USA..*

I think one of the problems is social isolation. Lack of community spirit.
We have never been more able to span great distances, connect and reach out to each other via our Telecommunications advancements than ever before yet the biggest killer of young men in Ireland in the year 2010 is?

SUICIDE

HOW THE FÚCK HAS THIS HAPPENED?
...In fact I don't know what the solution is!

Whatever happened to :
You're hungry? ...here's half my lunch
I'm hungry, thanks for sharing....
I mean FFS its better to light a candle than curse the darkness... What's wrong with people these days?

The OP's post cleared up a bit.

ejmaztec

thebullkf wrote: »

general scum and their criminal records etc.

You leave Jedward alone you nasty poster.:(

Superbus

Just today I had this encounter:

Man at Bus Stop: Sorry, you wouldn't happen to have a euro would you, to get in to town?

Me: Sure yeah. *hands euro to man*

Man at Bus Stop: Thanks.



Good deeds do happen. And it's negativity like that evident in your OP that breeds bad ones. Cheer up thebullkf, and maybe your problem will go away.

chopperbyrne

Superbus wrote: »

Just today I had this encounter:

Man at Bus Stop: Sorry, you wouldn't happen to have a euro would you, to get in to town?

Me: Sure yeah. *hands euro to man*

Man at Bus Stop: Thanks.



Good deeds do happen. And it's negativity like that evident in your OP that breeds bad ones. Cheer up thebullkf, and maybe your problem will go away.

Was this by any chance at either the bus stop outside Fagans in Drumcondra or across the road from Tesco in Phibsboro?

El Weirdo

thebullkf wrote: »

EDIT:

Post is 'fixed':rolleyes:

say thankya

No it's not.

Engelbert

thebullkf wrote: »

its a damning indictment of our society.

I agree! Bad post structure, punctuation and grammar don't help either!

fonecrusher1

Theres lots of scumbags in the world. Thats life.

Superbus

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Was this by any chance at either the bus stop outside Fagans in Drumcondra or acroos the road from Tesco in Phibsboro?

No it was not.

sponsoredwalk

:(

i started a thread earlier in relation to a pub being taken over by a group of animals men, Link, and I was talking to a friend earlier
about that incident, the Gardaí, travellers & scum in general along with their criminal records...

I really do feel despair at what kind of a country we've become,
(or maybe were already, and its just the reporting of these crimes thats increased and not the crimes themselves).

For instance:

the arsonist in that garage; 120k damage = suspended sentence. :eek:

politicians relation + child abuse; suspended sentence :eek:

Men filing into court just to shake the hand of a rapist in front of his VICTIM! :mad:

i could go on....

Scumbags who kill someone/maim/steal and its discovered at their trial they have 'x' number of convictions, (usually double figures), and nothing is done about it, and even if something is already done it's usually too late!

That buddy i spoke to recalled an incident when a burglar was caught on the road having tried to steal his car.
The gardaí duly arrived and the razzer told him and it was this guy's fourth time being arrested that night!!!


I feel we've gone too far in the wrong direction, we used to be too far in the 'PC' direction, (couldn't swear/show nudity on TV etc...),
but now i think its swung completely the opposite way.
I think we've become de-sensitized & are used to just ignoring & accepting this type of behaviour and attitude.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fairly liberal, but i'm actually amazed there hasn't been a lynching or someone just snapping and going nuts (a lá USA).

I think one of the problems is social isolation, e.g. lack of community spirit.
We have never been more able to span great distances,
connect and reach out to each other via our Telecommunications advancements than ever before yet the biggest killer of young men in Ireland in the year 2010 is..???

SUICIDE

HOW THE FÚCK HAS THIS HAPPENED????

In fact, i don't know what the solution is.....

Whatever happened to:

a) you're hungry? There half my lunch

b) I'm hungry, thanks for sharing....

i mean FFS, its better to light a candle than curse the darkness...

whats wrong with people these days...?????

Hank_Jones

^^^^OP, Copy and paste into original post.^^^^

Einhard

thebullkf wrote: »

:(


i started a thread earlier in relation to a pub being taken over by a group
of "men"....{i use the term loosely..animals behave better
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=66821366#post66821366 }
SO...
i was talking to a friend earlier....about this incident,the Gardaí,Travellers,and general scum and their criminal records etc.
and i really do feel despair at what kind of a country we've become..
{or maybe already were,and its the reporting of these crimes thats increased and not the crimes themselves}
for instance:
the arsonist in that garage...120k damage=suspended sentence.
politicians relation+child abuse=suspended sentence.
Men filing into court to shake the hand of a rapist in front of his VICTIM!
i could go on....

scumbags who kill someone/maim/steal and its discovered at their trial they have 'x' number of convictions..{usually double figures}
and nothings been done about it.-till then.
usually though the damage is already doneandits too late.
the buddy i spoke to recalled an incident when aburglar was caught on the road having tried to steal his car....gardaí duly arrived...and the razzer told him and it was this guy's fourth time that night being arrested.!!!!
i feel we've gone too far in the wrong direction..used to be too far in the 'PC' direction...ie couldn't swear/show nudity on TV..
now i think its swung completely the opposite.
i think we've become de-sensitised/used to/ignoring/accepted this type of behaviour and attitude.
don't get me wrong,i'm fairly liberal,
but......
*i'm actually amazed there hasn't been a lynching or someone just snapping and going nuts.. a lá USA..*
I think one of the problems is social isolation.
ack of community spirit....
we have never been more able to span great distances,connect and reach out to each other via our Telecommunications advancements than ever before yet the biggest killer of young men in Ireland in the year 2010 is..???

SUICIDE

HOW THE FÚCK HAS THIS HAPPENED????
...in fact i don't know what the solution is.....
whatever happened to :
you're hungry?...here half my lunch
i'm hungry,thanks for sharing....
i mean FFS its better to light a candle than curse the darkness...
whats wrong with people these days...?????

Buy your own fuckin lunch ya fuppin pikey!! :pac:

Seriously OP, these kind of incidents happen in every state in the world. Ireland actually has one of the lowest murder rates in the world, and the rates of other crimes are similarly low. We also have some of the toughest anti-crime and especially anti-gang legislation in the world. As another poster pointed out, a gaurda superintendent's word is now acceptable as evidence for a conviction in gangland cases. Furthermore, I think we're probably alone in Western Europe in dispensing with jury trials in certain circumstances. Then there's also the CAB which has been replicated right across Europe as an instrument of targetting organised crime. I think if you look at the bigger picture rather than get carried away by isolated incidents, then it's clear that Ireland is a low crime country, and has the necessary legislation in place to deal with those who seek to break the law.

In regards suicide, I'm not an expert but I'd be fairly confident that the suicide rates in Ireland have not gone through the roof in recent years. If anything, such deaths tended to be under reported in the past due to the stigma that was attached.

caseyann

thebullkf wrote: »

:(


i started a thread earlier in relation to a pub being taken over by a group
of "men"....{i use the term loosely..animals behave better
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=66821366#post66821366 }
SO...
i was talking to a friend earlier....about this incident,the Gardaí,Travellers,and general scum and their criminal records etc.
and i really do feel despair at what kind of a country we've become..
{or maybe already were,and its the reporting of these crimes thats increased and not the crimes themselves}
for instance:
the arsonist in that garage...120k damage=suspended sentence.
politicians relation+child abuse=suspended sentence.
Men filing into court to shake the hand of a rapist in front of his VICTIM!
i could go on....

scumbags who kill someone/maim/steal and its discovered at their trial they have 'x' number of convictions..{usually double figures}
and nothings been done about it.-till then.
usually though the damage is already doneandits too late.
the buddy i spoke to recalled an incident when aburglar was caught on the road having tried to steal his car....gardaí duly arrived...and the razzer told him and it was this guy's fourth time that night being arrested.!!!!
i feel we've gone too far in the wrong direction..used to be too far in the 'PC' direction...ie couldn't swear/show nudity on TV..
now i think its swung completely the opposite.
i think we've become de-sensitised/used to/ignoring/accepted this type of behaviour and attitude.
don't get me wrong,i'm fairly liberal,
but......
*i'm actually amazed there hasn't been a lynching or someone just snapping and going nuts.. a lá USA..*
I think one of the problems is social isolation.
ack of community spirit....
we have never been more able to span great distances,connect and reach out to each other via our Telecommunications advancements than ever before yet the biggest killer of young men in Ireland in the year 2010 is..???

SUICIDE

HOW THE FÚCK HAS THIS HAPPENED????
...in fact i don't know what the solution is.....
whatever happened to :
you're hungry?...here half my lunch
i'm hungry,thanks for sharing....
i mean FFS its better to light a candle than curse the darkness...
whats wrong with people these days...?????

Greed,bitterness,poverty,power,lack of discipline.
No it wasnt always like that.
And i agree with you,but also thankfully the country is not as bad as some others.And i think the police are doing a good job in most cases.

Einhard

caseyann wrote: »

Greed,bitterness,poverty,power,lack of discipline.
No it wasnt always like that.

You'd be surprised to find that it was, and often times much much worse. Just read the Ryan Report.