Are Kerry hard done by

Deise Tom

The title says it all i think.

grenache

Deise Tom wrote: »

The title says it all i think.

No. Paul Galvin has deserved all the bans handed out to him thus far. And i dont think anyone could argue with the one month suspension Tomás O Sé received.

Browney7

They aren't hard done in the way that the players deserve to have been suspended for what they did and I don't think anyone is arguing against that.

However the fact that 3 other incidents this weekend that were high on the severity scale went unpunished leads me to believe that they are.

Cadogan should have been done for grabbing Cooper by the throat a few weeks ago and O'Hara and Banville should all have gotten suspensions for their actions at the weekend. The inconsistency is driving Kerry people bananas and its hard to blame them at this stage

unknown13

Are you serious. Kerry get an easy time by the GAA. Darragh O Se getting a red card rescinded which he got for a club, Donaghy getting away with all the professional fouls on players in on goal. Paul Galvin being able to play in the All-Ireland final after committing a very serious offence and receiving a lengthy ban but only to be rescinded in the days leading up to the All-Ireland final. I am fairly convinced if Galvin was wearing a Blue and Navy jersey and they got to the All-Ireland final, he wouldn't have been allowed to to play in the All Ireland final.

sam34

as well as teh cavan player that physically pushed a referee yet went unpunished

however if he had hit the ref's notebook he'd have gotten 6 months, going on previous form by the cccc

dartbhoy

The Kerry players banned deserved their punishment and they both accepted their bans without appealing. However the Kerry county board must be puzzled how other county players have got away without bans even though there was TV evidence to suggest these players should have been red carded.

Deise Tom

Browney7 wrote: »

They aren't hard done in the way that the players deserve to have been suspended for what they did and I don't think anyone is arguing against that.

However the fact that 3 other incidents this weekend that were high on the severity scale went unpunished leads me to believe that they are.

Cadogan should have been done for grabbing Cooper by the throat a few weeks ago and O'Hara and Banville should all have gotten suspensions for their actions at the weekend. The inconsistency is driving Kerry people bananas and its hard to blame them at this stage

Exactly what i am trying to hit at. Would include the Tipp Full back as well. Galvin and Ó Sé are now suspended while the others are left of scotch free. Where is the fairness in that. As they are free, then Kerry in my views are hard done by. Not saying however what the lads get up to is right.

Limerick_Lass

In the same match few weeks back Kavanagh graps gooch by the throat, gets away with it. After much provoking Galvin sticks his fingers in Cadogans mouth (in some footage it looks like Cadogan was going to bite Galvins nose)
But where is the balance in this?

The Kerry players, such as Galvin and O shea deserve their punishments but why is every other county getting away with it?
I can see why Kerry supporters are pissed off.

The refereeing has been exceptionally bad in this year's Championship

sam34

again, i havent seen one serious kerry person claim that galvin and/or o sé should not have been punished


what is galling is that others have done similar or worse and gotten away with it

dromdrom

Look at Kilkenny last Sunday, similar to Kerry in that they have been predominant force for large parts of the recent past in their sport. Yet Kilkenny do not divide opinion, they are respected and praised for their tough and brilliant hurling, in other words they have a bit of class about them.

Kerry on the other hand are the polar opposite because of high profile incidents like Aidan O'Mahoney pretending to having been assaulted, Kenneally Taking out Murphy, Colm Cooper's and Donaghy's continuous diving looking for frees or Galvin for his fishhooking/accosting referees/nasty fouls etc. . The point I am making is that this Kerry team bring it upon themselves in the approach they take to the game which to be quiet honest goes against the traditions of the game.

At which point will the people of Kerry realise that things like Paul Galvin getting suspended for sticking his fingers into an opponents eyes and mouth is not a reason to rally around the player and defend him it is moment to pause and try and figure out why so many of their high profile names resort to this type of nonsense when they are good enough to have a bit of class and win clean.

Limerick_Lass

dromdrom wrote: »

Look at Kilkenny last Sunday, similar to Kerry in that they have been predominant force for large parts of the recent past in their sport. Yet Kilkenny do not divide opinion, they are respected and praised for their tough and brilliant hurling, in other words they have a bit of class about them.

Kerry on the other hand are the polar opposite because of high profile incidents like Aidan O'Mahoney pretending to having been assaulted, Kenneally Taking out Murphy, Colm Cooper's and Donaghy's continuous diving looking for frees or Galvin for his fishhooking/accosting referees/nasty fouls etc. . The point I am making is that this Kerry team bring it upon themselves in the approach they take to the game which to be quiet honest goes against the traditions of the game.

At which point will the people of Kerry realise that things like Paul Galvin getting suspended for sticking his fingers into an opponents eyes and mouth is not a reason to rally around the player and defend him it is moment to pause and try and figure out why so many of their high profile names resort to this type of nonsense when they are good enough to have a bit of class and win clean.

Are you saying Kerry are the only team who do this? Or is it because Kerry are so high profile that we see more of them. And there is very few Kerry people defending what the likes of Galvin has done.

The Kerry team are up there with Kilkenny in terms of class... teams that will go down in history.

dromdrom

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

Are you saying Kerry are the only team who do this? Or is it because Kerry are so high profile that we see more of them. And there is very few Kerry people defending what the likes of Galvin has done.

Their was talk of the Kerry team boycotting RTE and also numerous interviews by the likes of Dara O'Se and Kerry County board members where the only blame was to be put onto the Sunday Game for victimization or Galvin. Plenty of "paul is not a dirty player" nonsense and no "Paul must reflect on why he has got his second ban in a year for sticking his fingers into an opponents mouth". In Kerry that might have seemed proper and normal but to the outside world it was ridiculous.

Diabhal Beag

sam34 wrote: »

as well as teh cavan player that physically pushed a referee yet went unpunished

however if he had hit the ref's notebook he'd have gotten 6 months, going on previous form by the cccc

Ya WTF? That was a serious incident that got ignored. I do feel bad that Kerry get punished and Eamonn O' Hara got off scot free.

Limerick_Lass

dromdrom wrote: »

Their was talk of the Kerry team boycotting RTE and also numerous interviews by the likes of Dara O'Se and Kerry County board members where the only blame was to be put onto the Sunday Game for victimization or Galvin. Plenty of "paul is not a dirty player" nonsense and no "Paul must reflect on why he has got his second ban in a year for sticking his fingers into an opponents mouth". In Kerry that might have seemed proper and normal but to the outside world it was ridiculous.

Ok obviously you aren't a fan of Kerry football, so you dont think Kerry are getting hard done by, compared to other teams/players in similar circumstances?

teednab-el

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

The Kerry team are up there with Kilkenny in terms of class... teams that will go down in history.

I disagree, The best this Kerry team have done is 2 in a row and some of their championships went through the back door. Yes they have appeared in 6 All Irelands since 2004 but they have lost games in that period. The KK team have gone through the front door since 2006 without loosing a match...a different class this KK team are.

teednab-el

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

Ok obviously you aren't a fan of Kerry football, so you dont think Kerry are getting hard done by, compared to other teams/players in similar circumstances?

Their bans were deserved.

sam34

teednab-el wrote: »

Their bans were deserved.

thats not what she asked


the issue is that players in other counties are doing as bad or worse than the kerry players, and they're not being subjected to trial by sunday game or being banned by the cccc

dromdrom

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

Ok obviously you aren't a fan of Kerry football, so you dont think Kerry are getting hard done by, compared to other teams/players in similar circumstances?

I love watching Kerry play football, I hate watching any team consistently partaking in unsporting behavior . It does not matter if nobody else ever got a ban, if you play filthy you can never complain if you get penalised for that. Instead of saying how come O'Se gets a suspension and nobody else did the question should be why did O'Se fly around the place for ten minutes attemping to seriously hurt/injure a fellow player.

JodyB

teednab-el wrote: »

I disagree, The best this Kerry team have done is 2 in a row and some of their championships went through the back door. Yes they have appeared in 6 All Irelands since 2004 but they have lost games in that period. The KK team have gone through the front door since 2006 without loosing a match...a different class this KK team are.

How many teams in the country play hurling at a high standard? 4 to 6 maybe at best. How many teams are in the SHC? Now think about how many counties play football and how many teams are in the SFC? It's hardly a big deal for Kilkenny to go through the front door every year when there is very little opposition and there seems to be some hurling team on strike every year!

Limerick_Lass

dromdrom wrote: »

I love watching Kerry play football, I hate watching any team consistently partaking in unsporting behavior . It does not matter if nobody else ever got a ban, if you play filthy you can never complain if you get penalised for that. Instead of saying how come O'Se gets a suspension and nobody else did the question should be why did O'Se fly around the place for ten minutes attemping to seriously hurt/injure a fellow player.

Still not answering my question from above, and no one here is complaining why the Kerry players got penalised or defending them!
While you are at it, since when did KK become angels?! This thread isn't about the reasons behind why the said players did the challenges, Its about Kerry being hard done by.

JodyB

dromdrom wrote: »

I love watching Kerry play football, I hate watching any team consistently partaking in unsporting behavior . It does not matter if nobody else ever got a ban, if you play filthy you can never complain if you get penalised for that. Instead of saying how come O'Se gets a suspension and nobody else did the question should be why did O'Se fly around the place for ten minutes attemping to seriously hurt/injure a fellow player.

I think you are going a bit far there. I don't believe any Kerry player ever goes out to deliberately "play filthy" or "unsporting". These lads are amateur who give up a lot in their personal lives and a lot of their time to train and play for their county. I sincerely doubt 99.9% of any county players go out to do anything other than play football and try to win the game. Sometimes they make mistakes and do stupid things. They are human. Did Tomas and Paul deserve bans. Yes, but I think they have been men about this and taken their punishment. The issue is they seem to be the only ones being punished at the moment. The CCCC are ignoring a lot of incidents in other county matches and others who's unsporting behaviour had been dealt with by the ref on the day are going to the CHC and appealing, and for some unknown reason the CHC are letting them off!

dromdrom

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

Still not answering my question, and no one here is complaining about the Kerry players who got penalised! And this thread isn't about the reasons behind why these players do the challenges. Its about Kerry being hard done by.

I think I did answer the question, "are Kerry players hard done by", simple you play filthy and get penalised you don't have a leg too stand on and that goes for everyone. Didn't see too many Kerry people saying there were hard done by when Keneally was left on the pitch last year or the fact that Cooper has not been censored for repeatedly feigning injury (also substantiated by the ccc when rescinding Canty's red card saying that Cooper had deliberately fell over). Leave the persecution complex behind and just play football simple as that.

keane2097

dromdrom wrote: »

Their was talk of the Kerry team boycotting RTE and also numerous interviews by the likes of Dara O'Se and Kerry County board members where the only blame was to be put onto the Sunday Game for victimization or Galvin. Plenty of "paul is not a dirty player" nonsense and no "Paul must reflect on why he has got his second ban in a year for sticking his fingers into an opponents mouth". In Kerry that might have seemed proper and normal but to the outside world it was ridiculous.

This is typical - a strongly worded critiscism of Kerry based on a completely fabricated story that Kerry were going to boycott talking to the media.

This is, and always was, a complete lie, Kerry have continued to speak to the media and you still give out about the fact that the story was concocted?

What the fcuk like?

keane2097

dromdrom wrote: »

I think I did answer the question, "are Kerry players hard done by", simple you play filthy and get penalised you don't have a leg too stand on and that goes for everyone. .

It doesn't.

It doesn't go for Derek Kavanagh.

Or Tommy Walsh.

Or Eamonn O'Hara.

Or the Cavan corner back.

Or...

Limerick_Lass

dromdrom wrote: »

I think I did answer the question, "are Kerry players hard done by", simple you play filthy and get penalised you don't have a leg too stand on and that goes for everyone. Didn't see too many Kerry people saying there were hard done by when Keneally was left on the pitch last year or the fact that Cooper has not been censored for repeatedly feigning injury (also substantiated by the ccc when rescinding Canty's red card saying that Cooper had deliberately fell over). Leave the persecution complex behind and just play football simple as that.

Have you watched other championship matches not involving Kerry?
You didnt see any incidents that you thought should have been penalised and werent?

JodyB

dromdrom wrote: »

I think I did answer the question, "are Kerry players hard done by", simple you play filthy and get penalised you don't have a leg too stand on and that goes for everyone. Didn't see too many Kerry people saying there were hard done by when Keneally was left on the pitch last year or the fact that Cooper has not been censored for repeatedly feigning injury (also substantiated by the ccc when rescinding Canty's red card saying that Cooper had deliberately fell over). Leave the persecution complex behind and just play football simple as that.

You should go to a Kerry match someday and see how much off the ball fouling of Cooper goes on. You may change your opinion then give him the respect he deserves as one if not THE best forward in the country.
Lynch was hanging off Gooch like a necklace for almost the entire All Ireland match. It took the ref an awful long time to issue Lynch a yellow. He should have been on a second yellow and gone by the time he got the first yellow.

Deise Tom

dromdrom wrote: »

I think I did answer the question, "are Kerry players hard done by", simple you play filthy and get penalised you don't have a leg too stand on and that goes for everyone.

Does not appear to be the same for everyone however. I dont think anyone will argue that the Kerry players dont deserve to be suspended, most are just asking that they are treated the same as others meaning that if Ó Sé and Galvin are suspended, then so should Fanning, Branville, O'Hara and the Cavan player etc.

dromdrom

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

Have you watched other championship matches not involving Kerry?
You didnt see any incidents that you thought should have been penalised and werent?

Of course I have, the point being made is that "I am not the only one" is never a valid defence. O'Se went to serioulsy take out an opposing player in a high profile match, do you think a valid defense for that is that he saw O'Hara get away with a stamp the night before?

Limerick_Lass

dromdrom wrote: »

Of course I have, the point being made is that "I am not the only one" is never a valid defence. O'Se went to serioulsy take out an opposing player in a high profile match, do you think a valid defense for that is that he saw O'Hara get away with a stamp the night before?

Yes I was at that match and was disgusted by O sheas behaviour, but why do you keep implying I am defending him, I am not. I am asking you why do you think O shea got a ban and O hara didnt?

rebel girl 15

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Ya WTF? That was a serious incident that got ignored. I do feel bad that Kerry get punished and Eamonn O' Hara got off scot free.

So far - but how do you know that? An incident like that would have been submitted in the referees report, and he will be brought up on it. It will take a while because he is suspended anyway.

If ye are unhappy with the decisions and ye are a member of the GAA, then you have the right notify disciplinary chiefs if you see an incident at a game or afterwards which will not be contained in the referee’s report. i.e. something the referee didn't act on in the game

So either do something about these acts that are so appalling and get in contact with the CCCC or just give over - most of ye are well able to sit behind the computer and complain about the "unfair" treatment of Kerry players over players from other counties, so ye would be well able to send an email to the CCCC outlining why x payer should be banned

Mods - can we lock some of these threads, it is the same argument going on in about four threads and I for one am sick of it, we'll be here till next year arguing the same points

dromdrom

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

Yes I was at that match and was disgusted by O sheas behaviour, but why do you keep implying I am defending him, I am not. I am asking you why do you think O shea got a ban and O hara didnt?

But how can Kerry be hard done by if they all deserved their bans? Maybe Sligo or Cavan got off lightly but to say that each player deserved their ban (and to be honest Galvin should have been gone for the rest of the season for a second offence of sticking his fingers into somebody's face) yet still Kerry were hard done by makes no sense. The logic of the argument you are making is that these players should not have been banned.

Limerick_Lass

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

So far - but how do you know that? An incident like that would have been submitted in the referees report, and he will be brought up on it. It will take a while because he is suspended anyway.

If ye are unhappy with the decisions and ye are a member of the GAA, then you have the right notify disciplinary chiefs if you see an incident at a game or afterwards which will not be contained in the referee’s report. i.e. something the referee didn't act on in the game

So either do something about these acts that are so appalling and get in contact with the CCCC or just give over - most of ye are well able to sit behind the computer and complain about the "unfair" treatment of Kerry players, so ye would be well able to send an email to the CCCC outlining why x payer should be banned

Mods - can we lock some of these threads, it is the same argument going on in about four threads and I for one am sick of it, we'll be here till next year arguing the same points

Well if you are sick of it dont post, I feel theres people out there attacking Kerry for no reason only begrugery. So is it these people from other counties who are out in force reporting Kerry players?

ollaetta

Are Kerry hard done by in the suspensions handed out for offences missed by the referee? Absolutely not.

Are Kerry hard done by in that players of other counties are not similarly punished? Definitely.

dromdrom

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

Well if you are sick of it dont post, I feel theres people out there attacking Kerry for no reason only begrugery. So is it these people from other counties who are out in force reporting Kerry players?

This exactly my point, persecution complex, stop worrying about people reporting Kerry players and start worrying about why Kerry players are being reported.

Limerick_Lass

dromdrom wrote: »

But how can Kerry be hard done by if they all deserved their bans? Maybe Sligo or Cavan got off lightly but to say that each player deserved their ban (and to be honest Galvin should have been gone for the rest of the season for a second offence of sticking his fingers into somebody's face) yet still Kerry were hard done by makes no sense. The logic of the argument you are making is that these players should not have been banned.

where did I say these players should not have been banned. You cant back up your own claims and just making up stuff now. Im out.

rebel girl 15

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

Well if you are sick of it dont post, I feel theres people out there attacking Kerry for no reason only begrugery. So is it these people from other counties who are out in force reporting Kerry players?

I'm hugely involved in GAA and I like posting in this particular forum, but every time I come in here, there is a new thread on the same topic to discuss the same points

Any member from the CCCC can also notify the committee, those who may have been at a game or watched it on TV. Or maybe Tohill used his right as a GAA member to report Galvin?? It only takes one person - but Kerry seem to be really into the conspiracy theories at the moment!

Galvin and O Se accepted their bans - other players, who are not as high profile would not get the coverage, and would go for personal hearings into any suspensions being brought. Just because it isn't appearing on the back pages of newspapers does not mean it is not happening, and people are assuming that nothing is happening just because its not in the news

dromdrom

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

where did I say these players should not have been banned. You cant back up your own claims and just making up stuff now. Im out.

Your argument is Kerry are being hard done by because their players are being suspended for violent conduct while others are not, thereby implying that they should not be suspended for violent conduct , fairly simple really.

Limerick_Lass

dromdrom wrote: »

Your argument is Kerry are being hard done by because their players are being suspended for violent conduct while others are not, thereby implying that they should not be suspended for violent conduct , fairly simple really.

How does that imply they should not be suspended, you are not reading my posts correctly, have I not said they deserve their penalties? yes I have.
My argument is other players are getting away without similar punishments. understand?

Limerick_Lass

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

I'm hugely involved in GAA and I like posting in this particular forum, but every time I come in here, there is a new thread on the same topic to discuss the same points

Any member from the CCCC can also notify the committee, those who may have been at a game or watched it on TV. Or maybe Tohill used his right as a GAA member to report Galvin?? It only takes one person - but Kerry seem to be really into the conspiracy theories at the moment!

Galvin and O Se accepted their bans - other players, who are not as high profile would not get the coverage, and would go for personal hearings into any suspensions being brought. Just because it isn't appearing on the back pages of newspapers does not mean it is not happening, and people are assuming that nothing is happening just because its not in the news

Yes I can see where you are coming from rebel girl but its a general unbiased question that is being asked here, not trying to bring up the usual Cork v Kerry slagging match which goes on in other threads.

DDC1990

Yawn. Lads this topic is done to death.

Im from Kerry, and this is all we've been associated with this year. Suspesions warrented or not. Lets just leave it.

yerayeah

Some of the sh1t being talked in this thread is staggering!!

As people have pointed out above, it's not so much the sanctions being given against the Kerry players (although Galvin has been treated very unfairly this year) that is annoying us here in Kerry, but that players from other counties aren't being similarly sanctioned.

Another thing that I think needs to be looked at is that if the ref had given a yellow to Tomás for that elbow, then he probably wouldn't have been banned. It seems a bit stupid to me that if a ref deems a bad challenge only worthy of a yellow card, that on video evidence looks like a red, the player will most likely get off scot free!!

dromdrom

Limerick_Lass wrote: »

How does that imply they should not be suspended, you are not reading my posts correctly, have I not said they deserve their penalties? yes I have.
My argument is other players are getting away without similar punishments. understand?

If you were saying that O'Hara should get suspended for his stamp against Galway I'd say fair enough, but your not, its simply that their is a conspiracy against Kerry because Kerry players get suspended for violent conduct while another player did not (and even in that incident their O'Hara can make an argument that he did not mean it) , seriously not a leg to stand on.

dromdrom

yerayeah wrote: »

Some of the sh1t being talked in this thread is staggering!!

As people have pointed out above, it's not so much the sanctions being given against the Kerry players (although Galvin has been treated very unfairly this year) that is annoying us here in Kerry, but that players from other counties aren't being similarly sanctioned.

Another thing that I think needs to be looked at is that if the ref had given a yellow to Tomás for that elbow, then he probably wouldn't have been banned. It seems a bit stupid to me that if a ref deems a bad challenge only worthy of a yellow card, that on video evidence looks like a red, the player will most likely get off scot free!!

Two things here firstly how can you say that Galvin has been badly treated when he has been suspended twice for sticking his finger into peoples faces with intent (you wouldn't see that crap at the world cup), 2) how in gods earth do you think that O'Se deserved only yellow card for elbowing a man in the face after taking a run up. Some of the one eyed stuff here is hilarious. It's amazing to see the attitudes of some people. Christ Gaelic football is a game played by amateurs, the ethos of the organisation is not about fishooking, goading, feigning injury and taking people out. Kerry teams of the past were hard but fair, in years to come the recent Kerry team will be looked upon in the same manner as the Meath team of the late 80's early 90's , could play some serious ball but marred it all with the thuggish side of their game. Anyway no point going over the same ground again again, I'll leave it at that.

yerayeah

dromdrom wrote: »

Two things here firstly how can you say that Galvin has been badly treated when he has been suspended twice for sticking his finger into peoples faces with intent (you wouldn't see that crap at the world cup), 2) how in gods earth do you think that O'Se deserved only yellow card for elbowing a man in the face after taking a run up. Some of the one eyed stuff here is hilarious. It's amazing to see the attitudes of some people. Christ Gaelic football is a game played by amateurs, the ethos of the organisation is not about fishooking, goading, feigning injury and taking people out. Kerry teams of the past were hard but fair, in years to come the recent Kerry team will be looked upon in the same manner as the Meath team of the late 80's early 90's , could play some serious ball but marred it all with the thuggish side of their game. Anyway no point going over the same ground again again, I'll leave it at that.

Before you get up on your high horse, try reading my post again, I didn't say Tomás deserved a yellow, he should have been sent off imo. I was making the point that if he had been given a yellow, then he would have been immune from further sanctions.

And imo Galvin has been very harshly treated, he's been banned for 16 weeks of the intercounty season. That's a massive chunk of the season, and when you look at his offences, I think it's very harsh... The first time, he was jumped upon by Cadogan and he ends up getting 8 weeks for rolling around on the ground with him (you seem to think he tried to eye gouge him at this point, but I really don't see it myself, from looking at the footage). Then as a result of having been already sent off in that instance, what should have been a 4 week ban for the incident in the replay in Cork automatically becomes an 8 week ban!

djfern84

the bottom line is cadogan is a disgrace of a human being for a talented dual star he really lets himself down with his thuggish behaviour him and noel o leary are there 2 wind up galvin end of .. galvin is a genius the wayne rooney of the gaa you take away that edge ur left with an average player .. he plays on the edge but fair is fair lads the hardship all talented forwards have to put up with these this is somethhing terrible.. they need more protection in my opinion .and the spoilers of out wonderful game like cadogan canty o leary need close attention in future so they can be punished the same as everyone else

Timistry

yerayeah wrote: »

Before you get up on your high horse, try reading my post again, I didn't say Tomás deserved a yellow, he should have been sent off imo. I was making the point that if he had been given a yellow, then he would have been immune from further sanctions.

And imo Galvin has been very harshly treated, he's been banned for 16 weeks of the intercounty season. That's a massive chunk of the season, and when you look at his offences, I think it's very harsh... The first time, he was jumped upon by Cadogan and he ends up getting 8 weeks for rolling around on the ground with him (you seem to think he tried to eye gouge him at this point, but I really don't see it myself, from looking at the footage). Then as a result of having been already sent off in that instance, what should have been a 4 week ban for the incident in the replay in Cork automatically becomes an 8 week ban!

Its a joke really The bans were deserved and all that jazz but the GAA need to wake up a small bit. Refer to all incidents above! I was at Cork v Kerry in killarney and the stuff going on both on and off the ball brought the standard of refs in the championship into question. Donaghy blatently tripping O Leary, throw passes, loads of off the grounds. Cooper had a torrid time that day. A diver???? Caught by the throat ffs! In my book straight red and max ban possible. Highlighted in the media but nothing done about it..... Also he was through on goal only to be blatently taken out. The player in question may have been just ticked but surely that is a straight red also.

Finally, im convinced that Cadogen was corks "hachet man", his only intention was to intiminate and placate galvin into a red card. When galvin had just caught his first ball after coming on, Cadogen wrestled him to the ground, probably had a few words in the hope that galvin would lash out or whatever. Thats hardly sporting behavoir. (blah blah we have to keep your temper etc but he is only human. remember zidanes headbutt?) Not to mention that one the heads of the CCCC is a cork man.....:rolleyes: lol. only in jest but conspiracy theories have been based on much less

teednab-el

JodyB wrote: »

How many teams in the country play hurling at a high standard? 4 to 6 maybe at best. How many teams are in the SHC? Now think about how many counties play football and how many teams are in the SFC? It's hardly a big deal for Kilkenny to go through the front door every year when there is very little opposition and there seems to be some hurling team on strike every year!

How many counties playing football can actually compete and win the All Ireland? In this case I mean counties that could actually win? For the last few years there have been only 3-4 teams max that are at the required standard to win the AI so I dont know what your point is?

teednab-el

sam34 wrote: »

thats not what she asked


the issue is that players in other counties are doing as bad or worse than the kerry players, and they're not being subjected to trial by sunday game or being banned by the cccc

Obviously, they must have felt that Galvin and O Se incidents were worse than the other incidents. And people go on here about Derek Kavanagh not getting punished etc, remember Kavanagh got a yellow card for his incident with the gooch. If O Se and Galvin had got cards there would be no more about it.

teednab-el

Timistry wrote: »

Finally, im convinced that Cadogen was corks "hachet man", his only intention was to intiminate and placate galvin into a red card. When galvin had just caught his first ball after coming on, Cadogen wrestled him to the ground, probably had a few words in the hope that galvin would lash out or whatever. Thats hardly sporting behavoir. (blah blah we have to keep your temper etc but he is only human. remember zidanes headbutt?) Not to mention that one the heads of the CCCC is a cork man.....:rolleyes: lol. only in jest but conspiracy theories have been based on much less

Well Galvin should be smart enough not to fall into that trap. And if he cant control his temper he will get sent off again in the future. His best bet is to beat Cadogan to the ball on the field and score a few points. Thats all he needs to do.

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Limerick_Lass wrote: »

Well if you are sick of it dont post, I feel theres people out there attacking Kerry for no reason only begrugery. So is it these people from other counties who are out in force reporting Kerry players?

Why would there be begrugery? No one can say that Kerry are not a bad team, they have won everything. Some of their players though are playing on the edge and have been punished by the CCCC.

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keane2097 wrote: »

It doesn't.

It doesn't go for Derek Kavanagh

Or Tommy Walsh.

Or Eamonn O'Hara.

Or the Cavan corner back.

Or...

Remember (for the hundred time) Kavanagh got a yellow card for that incident. It was dealt with on the pitch.